[ncdnhc-discuss] No new LA agenda

[Dave Crocker]

At 11:42 AM 10/1/2001, Milton Mueller wrote:
>There is no parallel between ICANN and its staff and NCDNHC and its adcom
>1) ICANN staff is not elected
>
>MM ===> So, unlike Adcom, it has absolutely no legitimacy to
>define an agenda.

Milton, you need to re-read the description of responsibilities of the 
Adcom.  It has been functioning as if it were an "executive" management 
team, rather than a group form to provide administrative 
assistance.  (Remember that the "Ad" in Adcom is for "administration".

Is also is entertaining to have people debating about ICANN staff's 
behavior, given that none of the participants in the debate have any 
facts.  Just conjecture.


>2) I doubt that a single staff member would voice on behalf of ICANN,
>without consultation with other staff member.
>
>MM ===> I'm sure the staff consulted with itself. It's the rest
>of the Internet community they ignored.

Hmmm.  Let's see.  Before we can have a meeting in which the community will 
gather and discuss things, we need to consult the community, so it can 
discuss things about discussing things.

Milton, have you ever tried to administer a group that gets any work done 
under such a management model?


>3) I do not see how ICANN staff is planning to force the NCDNHC agenda,
>in any way!
>
>MM ===> Well, they have since backed down and made

First you invent wording that was not in their announcement, and then you 
claim that they backed down.

Nice, Milton.  Very nice.


>it clear that there will be time for constituency meetings.
>But read Lynn's original announcement. It asked us to
>"focus exclusively" in our "constituency meetings" on his agenda.

Ahh, I see that you are still claiming that Lynn's note contained language 
it did not contain.  Tsk. Tsk.  That's what you get for refusing to read 
messages that you find unpleasant.  You miss refutations of your misdeeds.


>MM ===> Here you are just wrong. As I pointed out to
>Vany, there is nothing in my statement that suggests that
>it is a "NCDNHC view."

Yeah.  Right.

d/


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