[ncdnhc-discuss] Limit email sending....

[Marc Schneiders]

So, what Dave, do you propose? Or are you just angry?

m.

On Tue, 27 Nov 2001, at 08:20 [=GMT-0800], Dave Crocker wrote:

> At 06:54 AM 11/27/2001 -0300, Raul Echeberria wrote:
> >At 03:09 p.m. 26/11/01 -0800, Dave Crocker wrote:
> >>Does anyone not find it a bit strange that we are worrying about the
> >>number of  posts, yet ignoring content such as personal abusive?
> >I don't understand. Are you proposing to control the content of the
> >emails? or what you are proposing is some kind of other rules to avoid
> >offensive mails.
>
> Raul, I am suggesting that the problem of excessive postings is very minor
> and the problem of abusive postings is very major.  The idea that the
> problems of this group are due to excessive postings is simply silly.
>
> Therefore, the proposal to impose a posting limit is a way of PRETENDING
> that we are doing something meaningful, rather than actually DOING
> something meaningful.
>
> Milton's posting on this thread demonstrates the problem in two
> ways.  First, he thoroughly misunderstood Alejandro's proposal and then he
> reacted violently to that (mis)understanding.
>
> Alejandro simply noted that posting control mechanisms usually have
> multiple people in the process, both to ensure the decision is shared and
> to cover absences of any one of the controllers.
>
> Second, Milton essentially says that the reason for limiting the number of
> posts is because it is an easy rule to enforce.  Not that it has anything
> to do with a real problem, but simply that it is easy.
>
> There is also some irony is the ending of Milton's post.  He complains
> about the difficulty of getting anything done because everyone wants to
> review and modify everything.  The irony is that that is exactly what he
> requires of ICANN, but he will not tolerate even a reasonable amount of it
> in the constituency.
>
> Open processes are quite difficult.  Most of the people in this
> constituency have not participated in such a process before.  They resent
> the difficulties that come with constructive openness and they resist
> following any of the techniques that satisfy such a requirement.  Hence
> this group has no cohesive model of needs and goals, and this group
> primarily relies on unaccountable, ad hoc decisions by fiat and decisions
> in face-to-face meetings with a tiny portion of the constituency
> present.  If we want to worry about the real problems of the constituency,
> these are the things we should be addressing.
>
> d/
>
>
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