[ncdnhc-discuss] FYI

[Dave Crocker]

At 09:51 AM 11/26/2001 +0900, Chun Eung Hwi wrote:
>I don't feel repeat those self-evident things.

I agree that it should not be necessary to repeat such things.  However:

1.  They have NEVER been stated, so there is no danger of repetition; and

2.  It is clear that they are not self-evident, otherwise people would not 
have so much difficulty stating them.


>On Sun, 25 Nov 2001, Dave Crocker wrote:
> > At the least, there are basic technical problems with this 
> mechanism.  They
> > have been noted -- and ignored -- a number of times.
>
>This seems to be very unclear to you although I cannot understand it.  It
>has been discussed in a few f2f meetings and mailing list before our one
>integrated list had been separated into two lists. I remember it has been
>clarified and notified many times through email list.

Sorry, no.  However, let's skip over the question of whether it was 
"discussed".

The decision represents a basic matter of membership policy.

The constituency never approved such a policy.


>Technically, if
>there is somebody who want to unsubscribe from announce list, the person -
>the contact point of one specific member organization is to be confirmed
>as to whether that organization would withdraw its membership.

Really?  I'm sorry but you just invented that mechanism.  It has never been 
documented or stated.

And therein lies a very clear problem.  Different people have different 
ideas about correct procedure.  The only way to make sure that policies are 
clear and that they represent the desires of the constituency is to place 
them before the constituency for review and approval.  This has never been 
done for this policy.


>I am sorry for my mistake of copying the same urls for two different urls.
>The second URL is
>http://www.icann.org/committees/coi/coi-policy-04mar99.htm
>This policy is truly what we, as non-commercial constituency, should
>adopt.

Thank you for acknowledging that we currently do not have a conflict of 
interest policy.

It is possible that officers of the NCDNHC should have restrictions on 
their activities and their other ICANN-related involvements.  At the least, 
such issues need to be stated very, very clearly.

Please note, however, that the policy concerns officers, not general members.

And please note that such a policy would mean that Milton's own activities 
as a UDRP judge would disqualify him from holding an NCDNHC position...

d/


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