[Ncuc-af] Upcoming NCSG elections

Akinremi Peter Taiwo compsoftnet at gmail.com
Wed Apr 3 14:40:32 CEST 2019 

It could be Remmy. As this messages is dated back to the election time.

Regards.
Peter.

On Wed, Apr 3, 2019, 1:25 PM Remmy Nweke <remmyn at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Peter
> Is this a new trend? Or is it server occasioned delayed delivery.
> Thanks
> Remmy
>
> On Wed, 3 Apr 2019, 12:34 p.m. Akinremi Peter Taiwo <compsoftnet at gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Rafik for your clarification. I'm sure your clarification will be
>> taken to the heart. While we are calling for a level playing field, there
>> is still need for us as African to put in place a strategy to make our
>> participation felt in the ICANN environment.  As echo by Rafik, those who
>> are serving as appointee should seek an elective position. It troubles when
>> I listened to the debate that NOMCOM hardly find a suitable
>> African candidates. It's time for strategy to will make us build necessary
>> skills and policy experience.
>>
>> Regards.
>> Peter
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 10:17 AM, Farell FOLLY <farell at benin2point0.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Rafik,
>>>
>>> As I mentioned at the end of my e-mail, it was not because you of
>>> somebody acted so that made me write my e-mail, but only to prevent that we
>>> fall into this kind of mistake as I could notice how easily it is happening
>>> at the NCSG level those days when somebody asks a question. Thanks for
>>> clarification again and I believe in your good faith, always.
>>>
>>> @__f_f__
>>>
>>> Best Regards
>>> ____________________________________
>>>
>>> Ekue (Farell) FOLLY
>>> Technology Champion & Chapter Head
>>> Africa 2.0 Foundation.
>>> www.africa2point0.org
>>> linkedin.com/in/farellf
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11 Jul 2018, at 03:08, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Farell,
>>>
>>> I made the point for 2 reasons and without making any judgment behind
>>> any intent:
>>> - the question was asked before in NCSG list and answered.
>>> - the question could be directed to me first as it is about me in the
>>> first place.
>>> I am not taking offense as I see good faith and took the opportunity to
>>> clarify. But I also wanted to be clear that can be sensitive as a matter
>>> and cannot be just dismissed. that is why I am calling for caution.
>>> I am happy to move on from this matter as I made my point and clarified
>>> for the inquiry.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Rafik
>>>
>>> Le mer. 11 juil. 2018 à 09:56, Farell FOLLY <farell at benin2point0.org> a
>>> écrit :
>>>
>>>> Thanks Rafik for the clarification and Remmy for raising his point.
>>>>
>>>> I am happy that some people brought again this concern. In any case, it
>>>> is an open election and democracy will help ensure fair and transparent
>>>> elections. However, that does not deny us to have a strategy that will
>>>> empower and serve better the interest of non-commercial users in Africa.
>>>>
>>>> In a separate note and before we continue let’s make something very
>>>> clear : let’s not interpret people questions (to understand something they
>>>> are confused about) as threats or attacks. It has been happening too much
>>>> often those days in NCUC and NCSG and to me it is not a very a good
>>>> attitude to directly interpret a question as if the recipient has something
>>>> against the person targeted in the question. If somebody simply asks a
>>>> question, let’s simply reply and noting beyond, unless there is a clear
>>>> accusation, in this later there is always a way to deal with that
>>>> respectfully. We are all human.
>>>> I am not saying that I have noticed something similar yet in this
>>>> thread but I dare to put this note because I do not wish that this happen
>>>> to us here in the NCUC-AF list.
>>>>
>>>> @__f_f__
>>>>
>>>> Best Regards
>>>> ____________________________________
>>>>
>>>> Ekue (Farell) FOLLY
>>>> Technology Champion & Chapter Head
>>>> Africa 2.0 Foundation.
>>>> www.africa2point0.org
>>>> linkedin.com/in/farellf
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 11 Jul 2018, at 02:07, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Remmy,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> no worries, I am not angry. I only expressed concerns about this
>>>> matter. I am happy to clarify anytime and I am open about this.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> Rafik
>>>>
>>>> Le mer. 11 juil. 2018 à 08:48, Remmy Nweke <remmyn at gmail.com> a écrit :
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks Rafik for the insights and clarification you provided.
>>>>>
>>>>> You do not have to be angry over the question, please.I know you have
>>>>> been very helpful for Africa as far as NCUC and NCSG is concerned, but
>>>>> then, a lot of people do not know the rationale of Asia-Pacific. So thanks
>>>>> for the clarification provided. One was trying to situate where Africans
>>>>> can leverage on this SG election. I am sure you explanation will help make
>>>>> some inroads in this strategic thinking and planning.
>>>>>
>>>>> Presenting more candidates than available positions is well noted.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> RN
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>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 11:52 PM Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1. We can also look around and shop for potentials and encourage
>>>>>>> them.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> encouraging people to be candidates is fine, it is open election and
>>>>>> it is better to have more candidates than available seats.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2. So I encourage us to look inwards, some candidates may be shy to
>>>>>>> come out or even selfnominate looking first at the criteria for NCSG
>>>>>>> including your humble self.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> also whoever who wants to run for those position needs to understand
>>>>>> what that means in term of experience, work and commitment. Having been
>>>>>> councillor and chair, I can give some insights what is expected there.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 3. What does NCSG charter say on criteria for EC Membership.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> See: Non-‐Commercial Stakeholder Group Charter – v5May 2011 - gNSO -
>>>>>>> icann
>>>>>>> PDFhttps://gnso.icann.org › improvements
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> not sure to understand the link to EC membership? you mean the NCSG
>>>>>> executive committee? they are not elected but appointed members by
>>>>>> constituencies + the elected chair. however I assume you meant that the
>>>>>> chair role and tasks are outlined there?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 4. There is also something I noticed from other regions which is
>>>>>>> worth sharing - informal mentorship via engagement and potential in
>>>>>>> committees and work groups way ahead of any election.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> proven recordings of participation in working groups, drafting
>>>>>> comments and so on help for sure.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 5. Maybe we start with providing information on Africans in NCSG of
>>>>>>> date. I know of Poncellet from NPOC and Farrell from Ncuc both as
>>>>>>> appointees not elected. It's unclear which region Rafik is rep. In some
>>>>>>> instances he represents Africa and at another Asia Pacific where he lives.
>>>>>>> I stand for more education.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> we need to be clear here, a NCSG GNSO councillor is not a
>>>>>> representative for a region but the whole membership. The geographical and
>>>>>> gender requirements in NCSG charter were set to ensure diversity and
>>>>>> balance (so we don't hae 6 coucnillors from 1 or 2 regions onlu) but are
>>>>>> not intended to create seat by region. that is a big misudnerstanding and
>>>>>> being clarified for every election.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am still African but happens to reside in Asia Pacific like many
>>>>>> other Africans over the world. the rules in ICANN about vary, some ask for
>>>>>> country of origin  and other for country of residence (including tax
>>>>>> residence). That is at the end a personal declaration by the elected
>>>>>> officer to decide what is the most accurate choice. After several years, I
>>>>>> chose Asia Pacific as indication when elected as councillor because the
>>>>>> country of residence is the practice for GNSO. In fact that decision, make
>>>>>> it possible for other Africans to run, because if I didn't and with Arsene
>>>>>> as councillor, there is no chance for another African to be elected under
>>>>>> the geographical requirements.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> to be honest, I find this kind of questions concerning as it imply
>>>>>> challenging someone appaternance or affliation. it is not soemthing healthy
>>>>>> nor warranted. I am still Tunisian, the only citizenship I have and have
>>>>>> strong ties my country and region. I advocated for the applicant support
>>>>>> from developing countries  in new gTLD program taking into consideration
>>>>>> Africa. In the council I represent the whole NCSG membership and
>>>>>> constituencies, and advocate NCSG positions.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rafik
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 10 Jul 2018 7:54 am, "Arsène Tungali" <arsenebaguma at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dear Africa colleagues,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As you know, based on the timeline that i pasted bellow, the
>>>>>>> nomination period begings on July 18th and we need candidates from Africa
>>>>>>> to run for these elections.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I remember we discussed the need to somehow strategize before
>>>>>>> nominations to the NCSG list so we can attempt to have agreed-upon
>>>>>>> candidates from our Africa list before they can go public. This is not an
>>>>>>> easy task but let’s try it this time.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We need a new NCSG Chair and 3 councilors (only one is term ended,
>>>>>>> two are still eligible for another term). We have good profiles here in
>>>>>>> Africa and i would encourage you to step forward here in this thread by
>>>>>>> telling us which position you are interested in.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I hope we can do this and agree on few names that we will support.
>>>>>>> And if you have any question, i am happy to help or look for clarification
>>>>>>> from experienced members.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> Arsene
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> NCSG elections timeline:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jul 06               check in begins
>>>>>>> Jul 18               nomination period begins
>>>>>>> Aug  01            nomination period ends
>>>>>>> Aug  02            deadline for nomination acceptance and candidate
>>>>>>> statement
>>>>>>> Aug  03            voter roll finalized, check-in ends
>>>>>>> Aug 06             meet the candidates
>>>>>>> Aug  07            voting begins
>>>>>>> Aug  20             voting ends
>>>>>>> Aug  21            results announced
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *P**ositions: *
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Chair:
>>>>>>> Farzaneh Badii - current NCSG Chair (till AGM 2018) -  eligible for
>>>>>>> another term
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> GNSO COUNCILORS:
>>>>>>> Rafik Dammak - Asia Pacific (AGM 2018) - eligible for another term
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Stephanie Perrin – North America (AGM 2018) – term-limited
>>>>>>> Martin Silva Valent – Latin America and the Caribbean (AGM
>>>>>>> 2018) - eligible for another term
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----------------
>>>>>>> Arsène Tungali,
>>>>>>> about.me/ArseneTungali
>>>>>>> +243 993810967
>>>>>>> GPG: 523644A0
>>>>>>> Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone (excuse typos)
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