[Ncuc-af] Upcoming NCSG elections

Remmy Nweke remmyn at gmail.com
Wed Apr 3 14:25:16 CEST 2019 

Hi Peter
Is this a new trend? Or is it server occasioned delayed delivery.
Thanks
Remmy

On Wed, 3 Apr 2019, 12:34 p.m. Akinremi Peter Taiwo <compsoftnet at gmail.com
wrote:

> Thanks Rafik for your clarification. I'm sure your clarification will be
> taken to the heart. While we are calling for a level playing field, there
> is still need for us as African to put in place a strategy to make our
> participation felt in the ICANN environment.  As echo by Rafik, those who
> are serving as appointee should seek an elective position. It troubles when
> I listened to the debate that NOMCOM hardly find a suitable
> African candidates. It's time for strategy to will make us build necessary
> skills and policy experience.
>
> Regards.
> Peter
>
> On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 10:17 AM, Farell FOLLY <farell at benin2point0.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Dear Rafik,
>>
>> As I mentioned at the end of my e-mail, it was not because you of
>> somebody acted so that made me write my e-mail, but only to prevent that we
>> fall into this kind of mistake as I could notice how easily it is happening
>> at the NCSG level those days when somebody asks a question. Thanks for
>> clarification again and I believe in your good faith, always.
>>
>> @__f_f__
>>
>> Best Regards
>> ____________________________________
>>
>> Ekue (Farell) FOLLY
>> Technology Champion & Chapter Head
>> Africa 2.0 Foundation.
>> www.africa2point0.org
>> linkedin.com/in/farellf
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 11 Jul 2018, at 03:08, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Farell,
>>
>> I made the point for 2 reasons and without making any judgment behind any
>> intent:
>> - the question was asked before in NCSG list and answered.
>> - the question could be directed to me first as it is about me in the
>> first place.
>> I am not taking offense as I see good faith and took the opportunity to
>> clarify. But I also wanted to be clear that can be sensitive as a matter
>> and cannot be just dismissed. that is why I am calling for caution.
>> I am happy to move on from this matter as I made my point and clarified
>> for the inquiry.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Rafik
>>
>> Le mer. 11 juil. 2018 à 09:56, Farell FOLLY <farell at benin2point0.org> a
>> écrit :
>>
>>> Thanks Rafik for the clarification and Remmy for raising his point.
>>>
>>> I am happy that some people brought again this concern. In any case, it
>>> is an open election and democracy will help ensure fair and transparent
>>> elections. However, that does not deny us to have a strategy that will
>>> empower and serve better the interest of non-commercial users in Africa.
>>>
>>> In a separate note and before we continue let’s make something very
>>> clear : let’s not interpret people questions (to understand something they
>>> are confused about) as threats or attacks. It has been happening too much
>>> often those days in NCUC and NCSG and to me it is not a very a good
>>> attitude to directly interpret a question as if the recipient has something
>>> against the person targeted in the question. If somebody simply asks a
>>> question, let’s simply reply and noting beyond, unless there is a clear
>>> accusation, in this later there is always a way to deal with that
>>> respectfully. We are all human.
>>> I am not saying that I have noticed something similar yet in this thread
>>> but I dare to put this note because I do not wish that this happen to us
>>> here in the NCUC-AF list.
>>>
>>> @__f_f__
>>>
>>> Best Regards
>>> ____________________________________
>>>
>>> Ekue (Farell) FOLLY
>>> Technology Champion & Chapter Head
>>> Africa 2.0 Foundation.
>>> www.africa2point0.org
>>> linkedin.com/in/farellf
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11 Jul 2018, at 02:07, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Remmy,
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> no worries, I am not angry. I only expressed concerns about this matter.
>>> I am happy to clarify anytime and I am open about this.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Rafik
>>>
>>> Le mer. 11 juil. 2018 à 08:48, Remmy Nweke <remmyn at gmail.com> a écrit :
>>>
>>>> Thanks Rafik for the insights and clarification you provided.
>>>>
>>>> You do not have to be angry over the question, please.I know you have
>>>> been very helpful for Africa as far as NCUC and NCSG is concerned, but
>>>> then, a lot of people do not know the rationale of Asia-Pacific. So thanks
>>>> for the clarification provided. One was trying to situate where Africans
>>>> can leverage on this SG election. I am sure you explanation will help make
>>>> some inroads in this strategic thinking and planning.
>>>>
>>>> Presenting more candidates than available positions is well noted.
>>>>
>>>> Regards
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>>>> On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 11:52 PM Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. We can also look around and shop for potentials and encourage them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> encouraging people to be candidates is fine, it is open election and
>>>>> it is better to have more candidates than available seats.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2. So I encourage us to look inwards, some candidates may be shy to
>>>>>> come out or even selfnominate looking first at the criteria for NCSG
>>>>>> including your humble self.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> also whoever who wants to run for those position needs to understand
>>>>> what that means in term of experience, work and commitment. Having been
>>>>> councillor and chair, I can give some insights what is expected there.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> 3. What does NCSG charter say on criteria for EC Membership.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> See: Non-‐Commercial Stakeholder Group Charter – v5May 2011 - gNSO -
>>>>>> icann
>>>>>> PDFhttps://gnso.icann.org › improvements
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> not sure to understand the link to EC membership? you mean the NCSG
>>>>> executive committee? they are not elected but appointed members by
>>>>> constituencies + the elected chair. however I assume you meant that the
>>>>> chair role and tasks are outlined there?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> 4. There is also something I noticed from other regions which is
>>>>>> worth sharing - informal mentorship via engagement and potential in
>>>>>> committees and work groups way ahead of any election.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> proven recordings of participation in working groups, drafting
>>>>> comments and so on help for sure.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> 5. Maybe we start with providing information on Africans in NCSG of
>>>>>> date. I know of Poncellet from NPOC and Farrell from Ncuc both as
>>>>>> appointees not elected. It's unclear which region Rafik is rep. In some
>>>>>> instances he represents Africa and at another Asia Pacific where he lives.
>>>>>> I stand for more education.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> we need to be clear here, a NCSG GNSO councillor is not a
>>>>> representative for a region but the whole membership. The geographical and
>>>>> gender requirements in NCSG charter were set to ensure diversity and
>>>>> balance (so we don't hae 6 coucnillors from 1 or 2 regions onlu) but are
>>>>> not intended to create seat by region. that is a big misudnerstanding and
>>>>> being clarified for every election.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am still African but happens to reside in Asia Pacific like many
>>>>> other Africans over the world. the rules in ICANN about vary, some ask for
>>>>> country of origin  and other for country of residence (including tax
>>>>> residence). That is at the end a personal declaration by the elected
>>>>> officer to decide what is the most accurate choice. After several years, I
>>>>> chose Asia Pacific as indication when elected as councillor because the
>>>>> country of residence is the practice for GNSO. In fact that decision, make
>>>>> it possible for other Africans to run, because if I didn't and with Arsene
>>>>> as councillor, there is no chance for another African to be elected under
>>>>> the geographical requirements.
>>>>>
>>>>> to be honest, I find this kind of questions concerning as it imply
>>>>> challenging someone appaternance or affliation. it is not soemthing healthy
>>>>> nor warranted. I am still Tunisian, the only citizenship I have and have
>>>>> strong ties my country and region. I advocated for the applicant support
>>>>> from developing countries  in new gTLD program taking into consideration
>>>>> Africa. In the council I represent the whole NCSG membership and
>>>>> constituencies, and advocate NCSG positions.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>>
>>>>> Rafik
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 10 Jul 2018 7:54 am, "Arsène Tungali" <arsenebaguma at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear Africa colleagues,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As you know, based on the timeline that i pasted bellow, the
>>>>>> nomination period begings on July 18th and we need candidates from Africa
>>>>>> to run for these elections.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I remember we discussed the need to somehow strategize before
>>>>>> nominations to the NCSG list so we can attempt to have agreed-upon
>>>>>> candidates from our Africa list before they can go public. This is not an
>>>>>> easy task but let’s try it this time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We need a new NCSG Chair and 3 councilors (only one is term ended,
>>>>>> two are still eligible for another term). We have good profiles here in
>>>>>> Africa and i would encourage you to step forward here in this thread by
>>>>>> telling us which position you are interested in.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I hope we can do this and agree on few names that we will support.
>>>>>> And if you have any question, i am happy to help or look for clarification
>>>>>> from experienced members.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Arsene
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> NCSG elections timeline:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jul 06               check in begins
>>>>>> Jul 18               nomination period begins
>>>>>> Aug  01            nomination period ends
>>>>>> Aug  02            deadline for nomination acceptance and candidate
>>>>>> statement
>>>>>> Aug  03            voter roll finalized, check-in ends
>>>>>> Aug 06             meet the candidates
>>>>>> Aug  07            voting begins
>>>>>> Aug  20             voting ends
>>>>>> Aug  21            results announced
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *P**ositions: *
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Chair:
>>>>>> Farzaneh Badii - current NCSG Chair (till AGM 2018) -  eligible for
>>>>>> another term
>>>>>>
>>>>>> GNSO COUNCILORS:
>>>>>> Rafik Dammak - Asia Pacific (AGM 2018) - eligible for another term
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Stephanie Perrin – North America (AGM 2018) – term-limited
>>>>>> Martin Silva Valent – Latin America and the Caribbean (AGM
>>>>>> 2018) - eligible for another term
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----------------
>>>>>> Arsène Tungali,
>>>>>> about.me/ArseneTungali
>>>>>> +243 993810967
>>>>>> GPG: 523644A0
>>>>>> Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo
>>>>>>
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