[NCUC E-team] Boilerplate response & non-member mail list subscribers

[William Drake]

Hi

I seem to recall that we did a boilerplate statement last year, but I don’t recall if whomever was dealing with subscription requests has used it.  I would certainly think something like "Thanks for your interest in subscribing to the Noncommerical Users Constitutency (NCUC) discussion list. Our list is publicly archived at: http://lists.ncuc.org/pipermail/ncuc-discuss/.  If you wish to join the list, we encourage you or your organization to become a member of NCUC. To do so, please follow the instructions here: http://www.ncuc.org/participate/become-a-member/“ would be fine.
 
I do have a question about a sentence of Brenden’s language, which I didn’t include above.  I don’t recall a previous agreement on the EC or the ET that "Individuals who are not members can be subscribed, but will not have posting privileges.”  Has this been the sysadmins' practice and I just don’t know about it?  If so I’d like to hear how it happened and the rationale.  And are we thus saying there are non-members now included on http://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/roster/ncuc-discuss ?

It’s not entirely obvious to me why we’d bother doing this when the archive is anyway public.  Personally I’d prefer knowing that the above listing comprised only members, but I guess I’d don’t feel strongly about it if others do.  A couple of questions in this case:

*If that’s going to be the practice, on what grounds would we be turn away anyone going forward?   When Joly’s asked in the past about some subscription efforts we’ve often said oh no, s/he’s not a member, a troll, not civil society, whatever….

*May I assume people can be subscribed to the list without being added to the member data base?  I don’t really know how the linkages work but the intake practice has been that when a member is added they are signed up on the list and also go into the data base from which eligible voters and the member count on the website are generated.  Does adding non-members to the list introduce any possible problems for those of you who maintain our e-platforms, or no?

Thanks,

Bill



On Mar 31, 2014, at 5:53 PM, Balleste, Roy <rballeste at stu.edu> wrote:

> +1
>  
> Roy
>  
> From: e-team-bounces at lists.ncuc.org [mailto:e-team-bounces at lists.ncuc.org] On Behalf Of Rafik Dammak
> Sent: Monday, March 31, 2014 11:40 AM
> To: Brenden Kuerbis
> Cc: e-team NCUC
> Subject: Re: [NCUC E-team] Fwd: New subscription request to list Ncuc-discuss from ekenyanito at gmail.com
>  
> Hi,
> 
> better to check if he is already member or not. but boilerplate response is ok.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Rafik
> 
> On Mar 31, 2014 11:42 PM, "Brenden Kuerbis" <bkuerbis at internetgovernance.org> wrote:
> EC members of the e-team,
>  
> I would really encourage you to develop a boilerplate response to these inquires.  
>  
> One suggestion would be:
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> Thanks for your interest in subscribing to the Noncommerical Users Constitutency (NCUC) discussion list. Our list is publicly archived at: http://lists.ncuc.org/pipermail/ncuc-discuss/.  Individuals who are not members can be subscribed, but will not have posting privileges. If you wish to post to the list, we encourage you or your organization to become a member of NCUC. To do so, please follow the instructions here: http://www.ncuc.org/participate/become-a-member/
>  
> Sincerely,
>  
> NCUC Executive Committee 
>  
>  
> But the EC needs to decide and approve what it views as appropriate. Please give your volunteers some guidance.
>  
> Thanks!
>  
> Brenden
>  
>  
> 
> ---------------------------------------
> Brenden Kuerbis
> Internet Governance Project
> http://internetgovernance.org
>  
> 
> On Sun, Mar 30, 2014 at 8:26 PM, Joly MacFie <joly at punkcast.com> wrote:
> Another would-be.
>  
> This is what my Rapportive says:
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> ·         Contributor at Global Voices Online
> ·         EAC Trainer of Trainers on East African Community (EAC) Integration Processes at East African Community Secretariat
> ·         Volunteer/ Student Intern atTransparency International
> ·         founder and project co-ordinator atSAUTI KWA WATOTO PROJECT
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