<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;">Hi<div><br></div><div>I seem to recall that we did a boilerplate statement last year, but I don’t recall if whomever was dealing with subscription requests has used it. I would certainly think something like "Thanks for your interest in subscribing to the Noncommerical Users Constitutency (NCUC) discussion list. Our list is publicly archived at: <a href="http://lists.ncuc.org/pipermail/ncuc-discuss/">http://lists.ncuc.org/pipermail/ncuc-discuss/</a>. If you wish to join the list, we encourage you or your organization to become a member of NCUC. To do so, please follow the instructions here: http://www.ncuc.org/participate/become-a-member/“ would be fine.<br> <div>I do have a question about a sentence of Brenden’s language, which I didn’t include above. I don’t recall a previous agreement on the EC or the ET that "Individuals who are not members can be subscribed, but will not have posting privileges.” Has this been the sysadmins' practice and I just don’t know about it? If so I’d like to hear how it happened and the rationale. And are we thus saying there are non-members now included on http://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/roster/ncuc-discuss ?</div><div><br></div><div>It’s not entirely obvious to me why we’d bother doing this when the archive is anyway public. Personally I’d prefer knowing that the above listing comprised only members, but I guess I’d don’t feel strongly about it if others do. A couple of questions in this case:</div><div><br></div><div>*If that’s going to be the practice, on what grounds would we be turn away anyone going forward? When Joly’s asked in the past about some subscription efforts we’ve often said oh no, s/he’s not a member, a troll, not civil society, whatever….</div><div><br></div><div>*May I assume people can be subscribed to the list without being added to the member data base? I don’t really know how the linkages work but the intake practice has been that when a member is added they are signed up on the list and also go into the data base from which eligible voters and the member count on the website are generated. Does adding non-members to the list introduce any possible problems for those of you who maintain our e-platforms, or no?</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div><br></div><div>Bill</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div><br><div><div>On Mar 31, 2014, at 5:53 PM, Balleste, Roy <rballeste@stu.edu> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple" style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">+1<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Roy<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:e-team-bounces@lists.ncuc.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">e-team-bounces@lists.ncuc.org</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[<a href="mailto:e-team-bounces@lists.ncuc.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">mailto:e-team-bounces@lists.ncuc.org</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Rafik Dammak<br><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Monday, March 31, 2014 11:40 AM<br><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Brenden Kuerbis<br><b>Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>e-team NCUC<br><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [NCUC E-team] Fwd: New subscription request to list Ncuc-discuss from<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:ekenyanito@gmail.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">ekenyanito@gmail.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><p style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;">Hi,<o:p></o:p></p><p style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;">better to check if he is already member or not. but boilerplate response is ok.<o:p></o:p></p><p style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;">Best,<o:p></o:p></p><p style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;">Rafik<o:p></o:p></p><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;">On Mar 31, 2014 11:42 PM, "Brenden Kuerbis" <<a href="mailto:bkuerbis@internetgovernance.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">bkuerbis@internetgovernance.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;">EC members of the e-team,<o:p></o:p></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;">I would really encourage you to develop a boilerplate response to these inquires. <o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;">One suggestion would be:<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;">Thanks for your interest in subscribing to the Noncommerical Users Constitutency (NCUC) discussion list. Our list is publicly archived at:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://lists.ncuc.org/pipermail/ncuc-discuss/" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">http://lists.ncuc.org/pipermail/ncuc-discuss/</a>. Individuals who are not members can be subscribed, but will not have posting privileges. If you wish to post to the list, we encourage you or your organization to become a member of NCUC. To do so, please follow the instructions here: <a href="http://www.ncuc.org/participate/become-a-member/" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">http://www.ncuc.org/participate/become-a-member/</a><o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;">Sincerely,<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;">NCUC Executive Committee <o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;">But the EC needs to decide and approve what it views as appropriate. Please give your volunteers some guidance.<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;">Thanks!<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;">Brenden<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><br clear="all"><o:p></o:p></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;">---------------------------------------<br>Brenden Kuerbis<br>Internet Governance Project<br><a href="http://internetgovernance.org/" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">http://internetgovernance.org</a><o:p></o:p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;">On Sun, Mar 30, 2014 at 8:26 PM, Joly MacFie <<a href="mailto:joly@punkcast.com" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">joly@punkcast.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;">Another would-be.<o:p></o:p></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;">This is what my Rapportive says:<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; text-indent: -0.25in; line-height: 11.5pt;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Symbol; color: rgb(64, 64, 64);"><span>·<span style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(64, 64, 64);">Contributor at Global Voices Online<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; text-indent: -0.25in; line-height: 11.5pt;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Symbol; color: rgb(64, 64, 64);"><span>·<span style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(64, 64, 64);">EAC Trainer of Trainers on East African Community (EAC) Integration Processes at East African Community Secretariat<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; text-indent: -0.25in; line-height: 11.5pt;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Symbol; color: rgb(64, 64, 64);"><span>·<span style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(64, 64, 64);">Volunteer/ Student Intern atTransparency International<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; text-indent: -0.25in; line-height: 11.5pt;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Symbol; color: rgb(64, 64, 64);"><span>·<span style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(64, 64, 64);">founder and project co-ordinator atSAUTI KWA WATOTO PROJECT<o:p></o:p></span></p><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br></div></div></div></body></html>