[NCUC E-team] NCUC Membership Update Needed

[William Drake]

I know I should know this but just can't remember.  For someone to be a member of an org and an individual member too would seem ok in terms of their identity/engagement; why foe ex should someone from a big org like APC be told they can't do xyz cuz they have a focal point.
But it does invite accusations of padding to make us look bigger, and it obviously gets complicated with voting.  How have we handled such things?

B

On Mar 14, 2013, at 18:49, Robin Gross <robin at ipjustice.org> wrote:

> We have interpreted these rules to allow someone to be both an individual member and represent an organizational member.  But we may want to re-think that policy in the future.
> 
> We have not allowed a person to represent more than one organization however.
> 
> Hope that clarifies.
> 
> Thanks,
> Robin
> 
> 
> On Mar 14, 2013, at 8:34 AM, Brenden Kuerbis wrote:
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>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 3:34 AM, Tapani Tarvainen <ncuc at tapani.tarvainen.info> wrote:
>>> On Mar 13 11:27, Brenden Kuerbis (bkuerbis at internetgovernance.org) wrote:
>>> 
>>> > > Half a dozen people (including me [Tapani]) are listed as both
>>> > > individual members and organization representatives.
>>> 
>>> > That shouldn't be the case.  Should be one or the other.
>>> 
>>> Really? I can't see such a rule in the charter, could
>>> you please point it to me? 
>> 
>> 
>> Sorry, I misread your statement. Nothing prevents this in the charter.
>> 
>> -- B
>> 
>> 
>>  
>>> 
>>> If that is indeed the case, I have been violating the
>>> charter and would have to either resign from NCUC myself
>>> or ask Effi to appoint another representative,
>>> and then I'd apparently have to resign from the EC as well.
>>> ("If an Official Representative holds an elective office in the NCUC,
>>> Members cannot change their Official Representative until the
>>> individual's term of office is completed." Charter III D)
>>> 
>>> As I said, however, I can't see such a rule in the charter,
>>> nor do I think it would be a good idea to disqualify all
>>> individual members from representing their organizations, too
>>> (whereas disallowing same person to represent two organizations
>>> would make sense to me, but I don't see such a rule there either).
>>> But I stand ready to be corrected, I've been wrong before. 
>>> 
>>> Incidentally, it would seem your being in the EC
>>> earlier was also a violation of the charter
>>> as only Official Representatives are allowed,
>>> not Additional Representatives (IV B 3), or did
>>> you and Milton formally swap roles for that year?
>>> 
>>> Yeah, we do need to revise the charter. :-)
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Tapani Tarvainen
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