[NCUC-EC] Report from NCUC issue forum

Kathy Kleiman kathy at dnrc.tech
Sun Nov 12 19:31:50 CET 2023


Benjamin and All,

The question is on the table: why are we paying anyone to summarize our 
work?  The Issues Forum (Parts I and II) took many, many hours of 
planning, drafting, slides, and preparation. Yet, no one in NCUC can 
summarize it?  That's a traditional entry role to policy - someone 
summarizing current policy debate and finding their own views and voice 
for policy work.

I have not gotten any answers yet: how much have we promised someone to 
write a summary and why could not one of the people paid for travel to 
ICANN78 write this summary (for free)?

These are very simple questions pending since ICANN78- and I've been 
sent in circles (a waste of a volunteer's time).

Benjamin, you said Mili would know; Mili, you said Benjamin will 
answer.  I'm now offline.

K

On 11/9/2023 11:22 PM, Benjamin Akinmoyeje wrote:
> Dear All,
> I'm sorry for not getting back to you sooner.
>
> I have the expectation of the sum of 2500 USD from PIR, I am yet to 
> confirm from Milton if NCUC has received the funds.
>
> Just like the last event, I only get notified of the funds and Milton 
> is fully in charge of its management. For ICANN78 expenditure, we 
> expect some invoices for the report and meals served at the Issue forum.
>
>
> Kind regards,
> Benjamin
>
> On Fri, Nov 3, 2023 at 4:30 AM Mili <milisemlani at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>     Dear Kathy
>       Thanks for your questions.
>
>     I would direct these questions to @benjamin and @ Milton who will
>     be better suited to answer anything related to the finances.
>
>     As of now the payment has not been made. Once the final draft is
>     shared, we will receive the invoice.
>
>     Once the invoice is honored, NCUC/SG will own all rights to the
>     report. As a standard in the publishing world. We (by we I mean
>     NCUC/SG here) are free to share, publish and circulate it as we
>     please.
>
>     I am merely carrying this facilitation as an NCUC volunteer in my
>     capacity as the EC member.
>
>     --
>     With gratitude
>     Mili Semlani
>     Journalist & Engagement Manager
>     Founder @ Youth4IG <http://youth4ig.asia/>
>     Instagram <https://www.instagram.com/theuntraveller/> | LinkedIn
>     <https://www.linkedin.com/in/milisemlani/>
>
>     On Nov 3, 2023, at 01:49, Kathy Kleiman <kathy at dnrc.tech> wrote:
>
>     
>
>     Tx Mili, thanks for your response and agreed that it takes a lot
>     of work to make a forum happen.
>
>     Let me follow-up with two quick questions. Could you share the
>     source of the funds (was this PIR money?) and how much you paid? 
>     Also who owns the report this group produced?  These seem like
>     fair questions, but if there is a concern about transparency,
>     please let me know.
>
>     Best regards, Kathy
>
>     On 11/2/2023 10:40 AM, Mili wrote:
>>     Hi Kathy
>>       As mentioned in my earlier emails too, we hired a rapporteur (a
>>     writing agency that has writers) to prepare this report for us.
>>
>>     For everyone’s clarity, I did not write the report. I am merely
>>     facilitating it as we divided the various tasks for the issue
>>     forum and I took over the task of looking for a rapporteur and co
>>     ordinating this.
>>
>>     And yes everyone put in a lot of work to make the issue forum
>>     happen and it’s great to see the collective result of all our
>>     efforts.
>>
>>
>>     --
>>     With gratitude
>>     Mili Semlani
>>     Journalist & Engagement Manager
>>     Founder @ Youth4IG <http://youth4ig.asia/>
>>     Instagram <https://www.instagram.com/theuntraveller/> | LinkedIn
>>     <https://www.linkedin.com/in/milisemlani/>
>>
>>     On Nov 2, 2023, at 19:56, Kathy Kleiman <kathy at dnrc.tech>
>>     <mailto:kathy at dnrc.tech> wrote:
>>
>>     
>>
>>     Hi Mili,
>>
>>     A lot of people spent a lot of time preparing for this issues
>>     forum (as well as the first). Can I ask how much you got paid to
>>     write this report (and how  long it took)?
>>
>>     Best and thanks,
>>
>>     Kathy
>>
>>     On 11/2/2023 2:13 AM, Mili Semlani wrote:
>>
>>>     Hi
>>>       As a part of the 20th anniversary celebration, we organised an
>>>     issue forum at ICANN78. It was decided that we hire a
>>>     rapporteur to prepare a brief report of the discussion.
>>>
>>>     I have attached the first draft of the report they have sent me.
>>>     Kindly take a look and let me know if it's okay (check for
>>>     factual errors, if its readable well and detailed enough for us).
>>>
>>>     Can we add a link to the comparison between At large and NCSG
>>>     applicant support proposals (the printed version that you
>>>     prepared and circulated at the session) to this report? If yes,
>>>     please share the link or send the document as an attachment.
>>>
>>>     Also let me know if there is any other feedback on the attached
>>>     report, changes, amendments etc. We ideally should share and
>>>     publish it for our members before the readout scheduled for Nov 6.
>>>
>>>     --
>>>     With gratitude
>>>     *Mili Semlani*
>>>     Community specialist
>>>     Instagram <https://www.instagram.com/theuntraveller/>|LinkedIn
>>>     <https://www.linkedin.com/in/milisemlani/>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>     On Thu, 2 Nov 2023 at 01:59, Kathy Kleiman <kathy at dnrc.tech>
>>>     <mailto:kathy at dnrc.tech> wrote:
>>>
>>>         Hi Mili,
>>>
>>>         Good to see you and Hamburg, and nice to have a chance to
>>>         talk. Still in catch-up mode here; I'll have things over to
>>>         you  tomorrow (11/2).
>>>
>>>         Also, what is a soft copy for and who is the writer?  Not
>>>         sure I understand the request...
>>>
>>>         Best, Kathy
>>>
>>>         On 11/1/2023 11:14 AM, Mili wrote:
>>>>         Noted. @milton do you have any additional resources, links
>>>>         that point to this?
>>>>
>>>>         @kathy maybe we can also attach the comparison between At
>>>>         large and NCSG applicant support proposals (the printed
>>>>         version that you prepared and circulated at the session).
>>>>         Can you also send me a soft copy for the same so I can
>>>>         share it with the writer to incorporate.
>>>>
>>>>         @all of no further comments, I will send this with the
>>>>         below feedback for final drafting. Kindly let me know by
>>>>         EOD (Nov 1).
>>>>
>>>>         --
>>>>         With gratitude
>>>>         Mili Semlani
>>>>         Journalist & Engagement Manager
>>>>         Founder @ Youth4IG <http://youth4ig.asia/>
>>>>         Instagram <https://www.instagram.com/theuntraveller/> |
>>>>         LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/milisemlani/>
>>>>
>>>>         On Nov 1, 2023, at 00:37, Mueller, Milton L
>>>>         <milton at gatech.edu> <mailto:milton at gatech.edu> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>
>>>>         Hello, Mili
>>>>
>>>>         I think the report on RVCs would be improved if we could
>>>>         attach the framework Kathy and I developed for allowable
>>>>         RVCs. It could also discuss some of the “stress test”
>>>>         studies we discussed.
>>>>
>>>>         *From:*NCUC-EC <ncuc-ec-bounces at lists.ncuc.org>
>>>>         <mailto:ncuc-ec-bounces at lists.ncuc.org> *On Behalf Of *Mili
>>>>         Semlani
>>>>         *Sent:* Tuesday, October 31, 2023 6:31 AM
>>>>         *To:* Exec. Comm <ncuc-ec at lists.ncuc.org>
>>>>         <mailto:ncuc-ec at lists.ncuc.org>
>>>>         *Subject:* [NCUC-EC] Report from NCUC issue forum
>>>>
>>>>         Hello all
>>>>
>>>>           As a part of the 20th anniversary celebration, we
>>>>         organised an issue forum at ICANN78. It was decided that we
>>>>         hire a rapporteur to prepare a brief report of the discussion.
>>>>
>>>>         I have attached the first draft of the report they have
>>>>         sent me. Kindly take a look and let me know if it's okay
>>>>         (check for factual errors, if its readable well and
>>>>         detailed enough for us). If it's good to go and
>>>>         doesn't require any changes, we can furnish their invoice
>>>>         and they will pass the rights for us to publish this report.
>>>>
>>>>         --
>>>>
>>>>         With gratitude
>>>>
>>>>         *Mili Semlani*
>>>>
>>>>         Community specialist
>>>>
>>>>         Instagram <https://www.instagram.com/theuntraveller/> |
>>>>         LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/milisemlani/>
>>>>
>>>         -- 
>>>         Kathy Kleiman
>>>         President, Domain Name Rights Coalition
>>>
>>     -- 
>>     Kathy Kleiman
>>     President, Domain Name Rights Coalition
>
>     -- 
>     Kathy Kleiman
>     President, Domain Name Rights Coalition
>
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Kathy Kleiman
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