[NCUC-EC] FW: Proposed program outline for ICANN 77 workshoip

Mon May 22 20:34:04 CEST 2023

Milton, the next day I forwarded a message from Andrea where she indicates
that the room was reserved on Tuesday at 14:00. 

I'll forward that again.

Ken

From: NCUC-EC <ncuc-ec-bounces at lists.ncuc.org> On Behalf Of Mueller, Milton
L
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Subject: [NCUC-EC] FW: Proposed program outline for ICANN 77 workshoip

EC:

Here is the last message I received from Ken and Ben. Note that it says
"Indeed, we should know the venue, if not the actual room number. But we
won't know the date." 

I told you I would wait. Until I threw a temper tantrum on the EC list, I
got no instructions for a week. 

We are DANGEROUSLY late. 

From: Mueller, Milton L <milton at gatech.edu> 
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2023 6:14 PM
To: Ken Herman <ken at kherman.com>
Cc: 'Benjamin Akinmoyeje' <benakin at gmail.com>; 'Johan Helsingius'
<julf at julf.com>; Farzaneh Badiei <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Proposed program outline for ICANN 77 workshoip

Ok, thanks for letting me know. I will wait 

  _____  

From: Ken Herman <ken at kherman.com <mailto:ken at kherman.com> >
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2023 5:51 PM
To: Mueller, Milton L <milton at gatech.edu <mailto:milton at gatech.edu> >
Cc: 'Benjamin Akinmoyeje' <benakin at gmail.com <mailto:benakin at gmail.com> >;
'Johan Helsingius' <julf at julf.com <mailto:julf at julf.com> >; Farzaneh Badiei
<farzaneh.badii at gmail.com <mailto:farzaneh.badii at gmail.com> >
Subject: RE: Proposed program outline for ICANN 77 workshoip 

You may be thinking of the "Scheduled" NCUS/NPOC session. 

The sign-up rooms are different, as I explained. Indeed, we should know the
venue, if not the actual room number. But we won't know the date.
Nevertheless, I will try to press for an early decision given the situation.
This is what Andrea told us:

From: Mueller, Milton L <milton at gatech.edu <mailto:milton at gatech.edu> > 
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2023 1:13 PM
To: ken at kherman.com <mailto:ken at kherman.com> 
Cc: Benjamin Akinmoyeje <benakin at gmail.com <mailto:benakin at gmail.com> >;
Johan Helsingius <julf at julf.com <mailto:julf at julf.com> >; Farzaneh Badiei
<farzaneh.badii at gmail.com <mailto:farzaneh.badii at gmail.com> >
Subject: Re: Proposed program outline for ICANN 77 workshoip

*	According to Andrea, we know know any of the details until shortly
before the meeting starts, but I'll check with her

Surely we know what day and time we have the room, and what building it is
in? Wasn't it Tuesday afternoon?

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From: ken at kherman.com <mailto:ken at kherman.com>  <ken at kherman.com
<mailto:ken at kherman.com> >
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2023 12:55 PM
To: Mueller, Milton L <milton at gatech.edu <mailto:milton at gatech.edu> >
Cc: 'Benjamin Akinmoyeje' <benakin at gmail.com <mailto:benakin at gmail.com> >;
Farzaneh Badiei <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com <mailto:farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>
>; 'Johan Helsingius' <julf at julf.com <mailto:julf at julf.com> >
Subject: Re: Proposed program outline for ICANN 77 workshoip 

Also, best to come to some decisions about the structure of the event
(speeches, panel, etc) before inviting guests so we can tell them what we
expect.

Hopefully we can settle all these details in the next few days.

Ken

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From: Mueller, Milton L <milton at gatech.edu <mailto:milton at gatech.edu> >
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2023 10:28
To: Ken Herman <ken at kherman.com <mailto:ken at kherman.com> >
Cc: 'Benjamin Akinmoyeje' <benakin at gmail.com <mailto:benakin at gmail.com> >;
Farzaneh Badiei <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com <mailto:farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>
>; 'Johan Helsingius' <julf at julf.com <mailto:julf at julf.com> >
Subject: Re: Proposed program outline for ICANN 77 workshoip 

I will invite some of the important speakers (NTIA, DC-civil society groups)
but I need confirmation of the day and time and if possible room number or
at least name of the hotel. 

Regarding the scheduled NCUC sessions, I don't think it's a good idea to
create ambiguity about when and where this program is going to be held at
this point. Let's get the program of the special session set, and then you
can talk about including some of it in the scheduled session.  

  _____  

From: Ken Herman <ken at kherman.com <mailto:ken at kherman.com> >
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2023 10:17 AM
To: Mueller, Milton L <milton at gatech.edu <mailto:milton at gatech.edu> >
Cc: 'Benjamin Akinmoyeje' <benakin at gmail.com <mailto:benakin at gmail.com> >;
Farzaneh Badiei <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com <mailto:farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>
>; 'Johan Helsingius' <julf at julf.com <mailto:julf at julf.com> >
Subject: RE: Proposed program outline for ICANN 77 workshoip 

Hello Milton.

Thanks again for the proposed programme. At its meeting last week, the EC
agreed this would be a good programme, with the main comment being that
perhaps some of this topic be also included as part of the scheduled NCUC
session at ICANN77. Remember that there is already a 90 minute scheduled
session that is shared between NCUC and NPOC (there is a separate NCSG
meeting). We are working on an agenda for the scheduled meeting. 

This programme would be for a "sign-up" room, which has been requested and
won't be assigned until a few days before the start of ICANN77. These
sign-ups are not included in the meeting programme, nor do they include any
A/V. We expect to utilize the promised PIR funding for A/V and publicity.

Next steps for this special session is to finalize the programme, and I can
work with you and Farzaneh this week. Great if we can touch base in the next
few days.

Thanks again.

Ken

From: Mueller, Milton L <milton at gatech.edu <mailto:milton at gatech.edu> > 
Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2023 11:02 AM
To: Ken Herman <ken at kherman.com <mailto:ken at kherman.com> >
Cc: Benjamin Akinmoyeje <benakin at gmail.com <mailto:benakin at gmail.com> >;
Farzaneh Badiei <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com <mailto:farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>
>; Johan Helsingius <julf at julf.com <mailto:julf at julf.com> >
Subject: Proposed program outline for ICANN 77 workshoip

Theme: 

Access to DNS in the Age of Sanctions and Trade Barriers

This workshop will examine the way nation-state power conflicts erect
barriers to global internet access, focusing on DNS. It would cover topics
such as how sanctions affect the provision of DNS services, how ICANN's
global policies and contracts intersect with foreign policy pressures, and
how certain forms of social media regulations affect Internet access
throughout the world. It will explore how Noncommercial stakeholders in the
ICANN environment can address those problems.

Invited Speakers:

* Farzaneh Badiei, Digital Medusa on her sanctions work

* Alan Davidson or Susan Chalmers, NTIA, on U.S. OFAC and its relationship
to ICANN

* Someone from ICANN legal on implementation of Workstream 2 (general OFAC
license)

* Greg Nojeim from CDT

* Milton Mueller, GT IGP on the TikTok ban

* Kathleen Burke from Public Knowledge kathleen at publicknowledge.org
<mailto:kathleen at publicknowledge.org>  on DNS access restrictions from
copyright and trademark interests

* Invite PIR to address sanctions

* TWNIC on cross-strait barriers to Internet access in Asia

There would be 4 15-minute presentations from key speakers (Badiei,
Davidson, ICANN, Mueller) would be followed by a roundtable discussion
featuring: 

*	Nojeim, CDT
*	PIR
*	TWNIC
*	Public Knowledge or EFF
*	Others?

Dr Milton L Mueller, Professor

School of Public Policy

Georgia Institute of Technology

Internet Governance Project <https://internetgovernance.org>  

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