[NCUC-DISCUSS] [Call for ICANN61 participants] NCUC Policy Course - Onsite Slots - no funding

Stephanie Perrin stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca
Mon Mar 12 15:02:32 CET 2018


I am certainly aware of the needs for individuals and academic 
institutions to see proof of participation, and to the extent that ICANN 
meetings are free and open, there is not much in the way of validation 
coming on that score.  My point (several days ago) was simply to query 
the merit of a certificate in terms of validation of performance.  
Frankly, many commercial conferences in my area of specialization 
provide certification for credits in ongoing education, and in my view 
the programs have often been focused on speakers whose sole purpose was 
marketing their firms' services, not education.  Thus my scepticism of 
such certs of participation.  Now, I am well aware that we are not doing 
that here.....but I would suggest that we should at a minimum specify 
how long the course is, whether there is any testing, etc.....the 
certificate draft at present could cover a one week course or a one hour 
course.  Needs to be clear.

We are trying to ensure professional standards of behaviour at ICANN, 
ensuring that what we do is clear, rigorous, ethical, and does not 
pretend to be something it is not.  That is why I queried the 
cert....participation at such a course does not strike me as denoting 
anything, but I would be delighted to be proven wrong on this, because 
we are /*absolutely desperate*/ to get more people contributing their 
skills to the writing and reviewing of comments.

Note to Michael: believe it or not, I am willing to bet that a PhD is a 
little harder to get than this certificate, and means a tiny bit more....:-)

cheers Stephanie

PS I am anxious to read the reviews of the course material, and would be 
delighted (as a frequent comment drafter) to review that course material 
if it is available.  I am afraid I must have missed it in the thread so 
would be grateful if someone pointed me to it.  Part of our duties as 
councillors for the GNSO is to ensure we are getting value for money, 
and I take that responsibility very seriously, as I am sure all the rest 
of you do as well.

On 2018-03-12 00:49, Olévié Kouami wrote:
> Greetings from Lomé, Togo (West Africa)
>
> +1 @Christopher
>
> It's always useful to get a certification (of participation, at least) 
> in a course.
>
> My 2 xof
>
> Olevie
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> 2018-03-10 7:20 GMT+00:00 Christopher Momanyi <cmomanyi at strathmore.edu 
> <mailto:cmomanyi at strathmore.edu>>:
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>     I agree with Lucena's comment. A document to show ones
>     participation in an activity shows a persons engagement which in
>     certain aspects may help his academic institution. Some
>     institutions will ask how ones engagement will help his academic
>     institution and on this basis one may be granted permission to travel
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>     Regards
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>     On 9 March 2018 at 16:05, Cláudio Lucena <claudiokilla at gmail.com
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>         Another note, certificates are extremely useful for those of
>         us who are working in universities, at least in Latin America,
>         but certainly in other regions of the global south too, and
>         definitely in other countries like Spain and Portugal, where I
>         have some experience.
>
>         Certifying activities makes it easier for us to inform them of
>         our contribution, for them to track our engagement and the
>         days we might be out, and more likely that they will allow us
>         time to keep working and engaged. It's a practice.
>
>         While helping at an NCUC booth at ICANN58 I saw a very
>         interesting cultural shock between a fellow from Spain, who
>         was looking for a certification of attendance to present back
>         at his university, and a member of the organizing committee in
>         Denmark, who had no idea what he was talking about or why he
>         would need such a thing.
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>         2018-03-06 5:21 GMT-03:00 Olga Kyryliuk <olga_kyryliuk at ukr.net
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>             Hi Renata,
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>             I agree with Michael's comment, but in general looks nice.
>             I would also suggest to mention place (San Juan, Puerto
>             Rico) additionally to dates and to add a line about what
>             the training was aimed at and what skills trained.
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>             Olga Kyryliuk
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>             /5 марта 2018, 18:40:30, от "Michael Karanicolas"
>             <mkaranicolas at gmail.com <mailto:mkaranicolas at gmail.com>>:/
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>                 Hi. Looks good! I would suggest that NCUC and ICANN be
>                 written out in full, instead of abbreviated, in case
>                 the participants want to share it with people who
>                 don't speak ICANN-ese though.
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>                 On Mon, Mar 5, 2018 at 12:36 PM, Renata Aquino Ribeiro
>                 <raquino at gmail.com <mailto:raquino at gmail.com>> wrote:
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>                     Dear all
>
>                     Good news!
>
>                     We were able to include 2 more great applications
>                     to NCUC Policy Course
>
>                     Caleb Olumuyia
>                     Monica Trochez
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>                     We were also sent the 1st draft of the certificate
>                     of participation
>                     https://drive.google.com/file/d/1CcR5ZwVR3GxWhsmNawy2Pa3OUInBfsXT/view?usp=sharing
>                     <https://drive.google.com/file/d/1CcR5ZwVR3GxWhsmNawy2Pa3OUInBfsXT/view?usp=sharing>
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>                     A few changes will be made to this and it will be
>                     distributed to all
>                     participants who join all activities of the Policy
>                     Course
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>                     Thank you
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