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<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">I am certainly aware
of the needs for individuals and academic institutions to see
proof of participation, and to the extent that ICANN meetings
are free and open, there is not much in the way of validation
coming on that score. My point (several days ago) was simply
to query the merit of a certificate in terms of validation of
performance. Frankly, many commercial conferences in my area
of specialization provide certification for credits in ongoing
education, and in my view the programs have often been focused
on speakers whose sole purpose was marketing their firms'
services, not education. Thus my scepticism of such certs of
participation. Now, I am well aware that we are not doing
that here.....but I would suggest that we should at a minimum
specify how long the course is, whether there is any testing,
etc.....the certificate draft at present could cover a one
week course or a one hour course. Needs to be clear.</font></font></p>
<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">We are trying to
ensure professional standards of behaviour at ICANN, ensuring
that what we do is clear, rigorous, ethical, and does not
pretend to be something it is not. That is why I queried the
cert....participation at such a course does not strike me as
denoting anything, but I would be delighted to be proven wrong
on this, because we are <i><b>absolutely desperate</b></i> to
get more people contributing their skills to the writing and
reviewing of comments.</font></font></p>
<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">Note to Michael:
believe it or not, I am willing to bet that a PhD is a little
harder to get than this certificate, and means a tiny bit
more....<span class="moz-smiley-s1"><span>:-)</span></span><br>
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<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">cheers Stephanie</font></font></p>
<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">PS I am anxious to
read the reviews of the course material, and would be
delighted (as a frequent comment drafter) to review that
course material if it is available. I am afraid I must have
missed it in the thread so would be grateful if someone
pointed me to it. Part of our duties as councillors for the
GNSO is to ensure we are getting value for money, and I take
that responsibility very seriously, as I am sure all the rest
of you do as well.</font></font><br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2018-03-12 00:49, Olévié Kouami
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<div>Greetings from Lomé, Togo (West Africa)<br>
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<div>It's always useful to get a certification (of
participation, at least) in a course.<br>
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My 2 xof<br>
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Olevie<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">2018-03-10 7:20 GMT+00:00 Christopher
Momanyi <span dir="ltr"><<a
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<div>I agree with <span id="m_309552670092385582:1vs.1">Lucena's</span>
comment. A document to show ones participation in an
activity shows a persons engagement which in certain
aspects may help his academic institution. Some
institutions will ask how ones engagement will help his
academic institution and on this basis one may be
granted permission to travel <br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On 9 March 2018 at 16:05,
Cláudio Lucena <span dir="ltr"><<a
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target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">claudiokilla@gmail.com</a>></span>
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<div dir="ltr">Another note, certificates are
extremely useful for those of us who are working
in universities, at least in Latin America, but
certainly in other regions of the global south
too, and definitely in other countries like
Spain and Portugal, where I have some
experience.
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<div>Certifying activities makes it easier for
us to inform them of our contribution, for
them to track our engagement and the days we
might be out, and more likely that they will
allow us time to keep working and engaged.
It's a practice. </div>
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<div>While helping at an NCUC booth at ICANN58 I
saw a very interesting cultural shock between
a fellow from Spain, who was looking for a
certification of attendance to present back at
his university, and a member of the organizing
committee in Denmark, who had no idea what he
was talking about or why he would need such a
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GMT-03:00 Olga Kyryliuk <span dir="ltr"><<a
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Renata,</span></div>
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agree with Michael's comment,
but in general looks nice. I
would also suggest to mention
place (San Juan, Puerto Rico)
additionally to dates and to
add a line about what the
training was aimed at and what
skills trained.</span></div>
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марта 2018, 18:40:30, от
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<div>Hi. Looks good! I
would suggest that
NCUC and ICANN be
written out in full,
instead of
abbreviated, in case
the participants want
to share it with
people who don't speak
ICANN-ese though.</div>
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<div>On Mon, Mar 5,
2018 at 12:36 PM,
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Ribeiro <span
dir="ltr"><<a
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all<br>
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Good news!<br>
<br>
We were able to
include 2 more
great applications
to NCUC Policy
Course<br>
<br>
Caleb Olumuyia<br>
Monica Trochez<br>
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We were also sent
the 1st draft of
the certificate of
participation<br>
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A few changes will
be made to this
and it will be
distributed to all<br>
participants who
join all
activities of the
Policy Course<br>
<br>
Thank you<br>
<span
class="m_309552670092385582m_908613581525007631m_-2862298885825573405xfmc2"><span
style="color:#888888"><br>
Renata<br>
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