[NCUC-EC] [Ext] Re: ICANN84 CROP

Wed Sep 3 01:07:31 CEST 2025

Hi all,

I was trying to find a solution, and Yao mentioned he'd need to apply for a
visa at least 3 months in advance to be sure he would be able to get it. It
is possible that he would still be able to get the visa on time, but it is
not a certain thing, and because of that, Atif goes back to being my
choice. This means we have 4 votes for him now.

Cordially,

*Pedro de Perdigão Lana*
Lawyer <https://www.nic.br/>, GEDAI/UFPR <https://www.gedai.com.br/>
Researcher
PhD Candidate (UFPR), LLM in Business Law (UCoimbra)
Coordination/Board/EC @ ISOC Brazil <https://www.isoc.org.br/>, NCUC
<https://www.ncuc.org/> & NCSG
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Em ter., 2 de set. de 2025 às 13:17, Pedro de Perdigão Lana <
pedrodeperdigaolana at gmail.com> escreveu:

> Hi Namra, I think we are talking about two different processes. The
> discussion we had in the selection process of the FC was not about serving
> in two positions eligible for travel. The FC was not one of these, and I
> believe the person who was applying also was not in a position with a
> travel opportunity in NCSG or other groups.
>
> Cordially,
>
> *Pedro de Perdigão Lana*
> Lawyer <https://www.nic.br/>, GEDAI/UFPR <https://www.gedai.com.br/>
> Researcher
> PhD Candidate (UFPR), LLM in Business Law (UCoimbra)
> Coordination/Board/EC @ ISOC Brazil <https://www.isoc.org.br/>, NCUC
> <https://www.ncuc.org/> & NCSG
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> Em ter., 2 de set. de 2025 às 13:13, Namra Naseer <fr.namra at gmail.com>
> escreveu:
>
>> As long as the person is 1. Contributing and active 2. Eligible. I
>> don't see a problem. I don't think you can travel on two CROP slots anyway.
>> The point made previously was about people *serving in two positions*
>> that are both eligible for travel, that is when a travel slot is wasted.
>>
>> This process (EC selection) is in place to avoid the exact circumstances
>> you pointed out. NCSG/NCUC/NPOC is not a subsidiary opportunity and that is
>> why we are here to filter out applications.
>>
>> Let's finalize soon so the recipient can make timely arrangements.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 2, 2025 at 10:51 AM Pedro de Perdigão Lana <
>> pedrodeperdigaolana at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hmmm, so this is not a small issue.
>>>
>>> We already discussed in previous selection processes about being in two
>>> groups at the same time (I think the most recent one in NCUC was in the
>>> NCUC FC application, although at NCSG level this was mentioned other
>>> times): it is not by itself a problem, as long as the person does not
>>> occupy positions/apply for travel slots in both, since this is a potential
>>> harmful practice for guaranteeing future engagement in non-commercial
>>> activities. When I talked with Atif back at the meeting, I was trying to
>>> steer him in the non-commercial direction. Other groups already do this
>>> filter, and I think it may be risky to create an image that NCSG/NCUC/NPOC
>>> is a subsidiary opportunity.
>>>
>>> The thing here is that I'm not comfortable with denying an application
>>> for someone under a reasoning that is not always applied (I don't know if
>>> others also share the same reasoning), as it feels unfair to the person
>>> denied. If we choose to proceed with Atif, which is still a possibility, I
>>> think it would be important to establish a clear guideline on that, so we
>>> can also put this in the Operating Procedures and avoid inconsistency.
>>> Should we accept those situations or not, and, if yes (again, I believe
>>> this is a choice, not a problem in itself), overall or under certain
>>> circumstances?
>>>
>>> Cordially,
>>>
>>> *Pedro de Perdigão Lana*
>>> Lawyer <https://www.nic.br/>, GEDAI/UFPR <https://www.gedai.com.br/>
>>> Researcher
>>> PhD Candidate (UFPR), LLM in Business Law (UCoimbra)
>>> Coordination/Board/EC @ ISOC Brazil <https://www.isoc.org.br/>, NCUC
>>> <https://www.ncuc.org/> & NCSG
>>> <https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Home>(ICANN) and CC
>>> Brazil <https://br.creativecommons.net/>.
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>>>
>>> Em ter., 2 de set. de 2025 às 11:54, Amin Hacha <aminhacha at gmail.com>
>>> escreveu:
>>>
>>>> Yes . He was elected for the coming term .
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Sep 2, 2025, 16:40 Andrea Glandon <andrea.glandon at icann.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> It looks like Mohammad Atif Aleem is on the EURALO Board:
>>>>> https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/x/GACGDg
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From: *Pedro de Perdigão Lana <pedrodeperdigaolana at gmail.com>
>>>>> *Date: *Tuesday, September 2, 2025 at 09:03
>>>>> *To: *Andrea Glandon <andrea.glandon at icann.org>
>>>>> *Cc: *Amin Hacha <aminhacha at gmail.com>, "Exec. Comm" <
>>>>> ncuc-ec at lists.ncuc.org>
>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [NCUC-EC] [Ext] Re: ICANN84 CROP
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Andrea,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Have we confirmed Atif is not currently in an ALAC/At-Large position?
>>>>> If he is not, my vote is for him as well.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Cordially,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *Pedro de Perdigão Lana*
>>>>>
>>>>> Lawyer [nic.br]
>>>>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.nic.br/__;!!PtGJab4!7wg6PwJKZN5K1IL-EyDWbm2sxTfkD9I82Y9K10rUuAuaAuPgYGo-UuL74u0rkfPBCVP1zPhMMYEH1DBSrrMbBpZqKverRgtJ68mK$>,
>>>>> GEDAI/UFPR [gedai.com.br]
>>>>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.gedai.com.br/__;!!PtGJab4!7wg6PwJKZN5K1IL-EyDWbm2sxTfkD9I82Y9K10rUuAuaAuPgYGo-UuL74u0rkfPBCVP1zPhMMYEH1DBSrrMbBpZqKverRjbZ27OI$>
>>>>> Researcher
>>>>>
>>>>> PhD Candidate (UFPR), LLM in Business Law (UCoimbra)
>>>>>
>>>>> Coordination/Board/EC @ ISOC Brazil [isoc.org.br]
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>>>>> , NCUC [ncuc.org]
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>>>>>  & NCSG  <https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Home>(ICANN)
>>>>> and CC Brazil [br.creativecommons.net]
>>>>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/br.creativecommons.net/__;!!PtGJab4!7wg6PwJKZN5K1IL-EyDWbm2sxTfkD9I82Y9K10rUuAuaAuPgYGo-UuL74u0rkfPBCVP1zPhMMYEH1DBSrrMbBpZqKverRqezfi3S$>
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>>>>>
>>>>> Em ter., 2 de set. de 2025 às 10:45, Andrea Glandon <
>>>>> andrea.glandon at icann.org> escreveu:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I have confirmed that Adarsh BU is in India and therefore not
>>>>> qualified for this CROP slot.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From: *NCUC-EC <ncuc-ec-bounces at lists.ncuc.org> on behalf of Andrea
>>>>> Glandon <andrea.glandon at icann.org>
>>>>> *Date: *Tuesday, September 2, 2025 at 08:10
>>>>> *To: *Amin Hacha <aminhacha at gmail.com>
>>>>> *Cc: *"Exec. Comm" <ncuc-ec at lists.ncuc.org>
>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [NCUC-EC] [Ext] Re: ICANN84 CROP
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, Mohamad is in Sweden according to his membership information.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From: *Amin Hacha <aminhacha at gmail.com>
>>>>> *Date: *Thursday, August 28, 2025 at 11:10
>>>>> *To: *Andrea Glandon <andrea.glandon at icann.org>
>>>>> *Cc: *"Exec. Comm" <ncuc-ec at lists.ncuc.org>
>>>>> *Subject: *[Ext] Re: [NCUC-EC] ICANN84 CROP
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Andrea,
>>>>> Thank you for the update.
>>>>> From Adarsh Bu’s LinkedIn profile, it looks like he is based in
>>>>> Hyderabad, India—unless he has recently moved to Europe. Would you mind
>>>>> sending him an email to confirm? I guess that we must ask the same for
>>>>> Mohamad Atief.
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, could you please remind us of the deadline for
>>>>> deciding about the name.
>>>>> Best ,
>>>>>
>>>>> Amin
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Aug 28, 2025 at 4:40 PM Andrea Glandon <
>>>>> andrea.glandon at icann.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Please find below the response document for the ICANN84 CROP slot.
>>>>> Please note that Adarsh BU appears to be in India.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19qBxznD0T_LHnIr6GRc7fTxQO65C7KvPAFOFmA-kx0s/edit?usp=sharing
>>>>> [docs.google.com]
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>
>>>>> *Andrea Glandon*
>>>>>
>>>>> Policy Operations Sr. Coordinator
>>>>>
>>>>> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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