[NCUC-EC] [Ext] Re: ICANN84 CROP

Tue Sep 2 18:12:27 CEST 2025

As long as the person is 1. Contributing and active 2. Eligible. I
don't see a problem. I don't think you can travel on two CROP slots anyway.
The point made previously was about people *serving in two positions* that
are both eligible for travel, that is when a travel slot is wasted.

This process (EC selection) is in place to avoid the exact circumstances
you pointed out. NCSG/NCUC/NPOC is not a subsidiary opportunity and that is
why we are here to filter out applications.

Let's finalize soon so the recipient can make timely arrangements.

On Tue, Sep 2, 2025 at 10:51 AM Pedro de Perdigão Lana <
pedrodeperdigaolana at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hmmm, so this is not a small issue.
>
> We already discussed in previous selection processes about being in two
> groups at the same time (I think the most recent one in NCUC was in the
> NCUC FC application, although at NCSG level this was mentioned other
> times): it is not by itself a problem, as long as the person does not
> occupy positions/apply for travel slots in both, since this is a potential
> harmful practice for guaranteeing future engagement in non-commercial
> activities. When I talked with Atif back at the meeting, I was trying to
> steer him in the non-commercial direction. Other groups already do this
> filter, and I think it may be risky to create an image that NCSG/NCUC/NPOC
> is a subsidiary opportunity.
>
> The thing here is that I'm not comfortable with denying an application for
> someone under a reasoning that is not always applied (I don't know if
> others also share the same reasoning), as it feels unfair to the person
> denied. If we choose to proceed with Atif, which is still a possibility, I
> think it would be important to establish a clear guideline on that, so we
> can also put this in the Operating Procedures and avoid inconsistency.
> Should we accept those situations or not, and, if yes (again, I believe
> this is a choice, not a problem in itself), overall or under certain
> circumstances?
>
> Cordially,
>
> *Pedro de Perdigão Lana*
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> Em ter., 2 de set. de 2025 às 11:54, Amin Hacha <aminhacha at gmail.com>
> escreveu:
>
>> Yes . He was elected for the coming term .
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 2, 2025, 16:40 Andrea Glandon <andrea.glandon at icann.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> It looks like Mohammad Atif Aleem is on the EURALO Board:
>>> https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/x/GACGDg
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From: *Pedro de Perdigão Lana <pedrodeperdigaolana at gmail.com>
>>> *Date: *Tuesday, September 2, 2025 at 09:03
>>> *To: *Andrea Glandon <andrea.glandon at icann.org>
>>> *Cc: *Amin Hacha <aminhacha at gmail.com>, "Exec. Comm" <
>>> ncuc-ec at lists.ncuc.org>
>>> *Subject: *Re: [NCUC-EC] [Ext] Re: ICANN84 CROP
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Andrea,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Have we confirmed Atif is not currently in an ALAC/At-Large position? If
>>> he is not, my vote is for him as well.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Cordially,
>>>
>>>
>>> *Pedro de Perdigão Lana*
>>>
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>>> Em ter., 2 de set. de 2025 às 10:45, Andrea Glandon <
>>> andrea.glandon at icann.org> escreveu:
>>>
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I have confirmed that Adarsh BU is in India and therefore not qualified
>>> for this CROP slot.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From: *NCUC-EC <ncuc-ec-bounces at lists.ncuc.org> on behalf of Andrea
>>> Glandon <andrea.glandon at icann.org>
>>> *Date: *Tuesday, September 2, 2025 at 08:10
>>> *To: *Amin Hacha <aminhacha at gmail.com>
>>> *Cc: *"Exec. Comm" <ncuc-ec at lists.ncuc.org>
>>> *Subject: *Re: [NCUC-EC] [Ext] Re: ICANN84 CROP
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Also, Mohamad is in Sweden according to his membership information.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From: *Amin Hacha <aminhacha at gmail.com>
>>> *Date: *Thursday, August 28, 2025 at 11:10
>>> *To: *Andrea Glandon <andrea.glandon at icann.org>
>>> *Cc: *"Exec. Comm" <ncuc-ec at lists.ncuc.org>
>>> *Subject: *[Ext] Re: [NCUC-EC] ICANN84 CROP
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Andrea,
>>> Thank you for the update.
>>> From Adarsh Bu’s LinkedIn profile, it looks like he is based in
>>> Hyderabad, India—unless he has recently moved to Europe. Would you mind
>>> sending him an email to confirm? I guess that we must ask the same for
>>> Mohamad Atief.
>>>
>>> Also, could you please remind us of the deadline for deciding about the
>>> name.
>>> Best ,
>>>
>>> Amin
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> On Thu, Aug 28, 2025 at 4:40 PM Andrea Glandon <andrea.glandon at icann.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Please find below the response document for the ICANN84 CROP slot.
>>> Please note that Adarsh BU appears to be in India.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19qBxznD0T_LHnIr6GRc7fTxQO65C7KvPAFOFmA-kx0s/edit?usp=sharing
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> *Andrea Glandon*
>>>
>>> Policy Operations Sr. Coordinator
>>>
>>> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)
>>>
>>>
>>>
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