[NCUC-EC] [Ext] Re: Possible collaboration - Internet fragmentation briefing series

Pedro de Perdigão Lana pedrodeperdigaolana at gmail.com
Tue Jan 16 11:51:27 CET 2024


Hi everyone,

Tomorrow I have a possibility until 12h30 CET, before my work, because the
morning here will be a bit packed - would it work for you all?

Cordially,

*Pedro de Perdigão Lana*
Advogado - OAB/PR 90.600 <https://www.sistemafiep.org.br/>,  Pesquisador (
GEDAI/UFPR <https://www.gedai.com.br/>)
Doutorando em Direito (UFPR), Mestre em Direito Empresarial (UCoimbra),
Membro da Coordenação - CC Brasil <https://br.creativecommons.net/>, ISOC BR
<https://isoc.org.br/> e IODA <https://ioda.org.br/>
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Em ter., 16 de jan. de 2024 às 07:38, Ephraim Percy Kenyanito <
ekenyanito at gmail.com> escreveu:

> Tomorrow works.
>
>
> --
>
> Best Regards,
> Ephraim Percy Kenyanito
> Public Policy Specialist/ Regulatory Affairs Specialist/ Project Manager-
> International Trade, Technology, Media & Telecommunications Laws
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> On Tue, Jan 16, 2024 at 11:46 Bruna Martins dos Santos <
> bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hey all! Yep, today we have the CPH DNS Abuse Group + NCSG. And I very
>> rarely get space in my agenda to schedule same day meetings too 😭
>>
>> But tomorrow im free until 16h00 CET. How about you guys ?
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 16, 2024 at 9:43 AM Johan Helsingius <julf at julf.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Today at 16:00 we have the NCSG call with the CPH DNS Abuse Group.
>>>
>>>         Julf
>>>
>>>
>>> On 16/01/2024 09:56, Benjamin Akinmoyeje wrote:
>>> > Dear Pedro and Bruna,
>>> >   I hope you are well.
>>> > Apologies that we could not see you last week. Can we try again this
>>> week?
>>> >
>>> > It would be OK to meet today just before 4 pm CET, what is your take,
>>> > please?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Kind regards.
>>> > Benjamin
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Fri, Jan 12, 2024 at 2:29 PM Pedro de Perdigão Lana
>>> > <pedrodeperdigaolana at gmail.com <mailto:pedrodeperdigaolana at gmail.com>>
>>>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >
>>> >     Hey everyone,
>>> >
>>> >     I'll also be available early next week. If any of you prefer due to
>>> >     a full agenda in the next few days, it is also possible from my
>>> side
>>> >     to meet for an hour during the weekend.
>>> >
>>> >     Cordially,
>>> >
>>> >     *Pedro de Perdigão Lana*
>>> >     Lawyer <https://www.sistemafiep.org.br/>, GEDAI/UFPR
>>> >     <https://www.gedai.com.br/> Researcher
>>> >     PhD Candidate (UFPR), LLM in Business Law (UCoimbra)
>>> >     Board Member @ CC Brasil <https://br.creativecommons.net/>, ISOC
>>> BR
>>> >     <https://isoc.org.br/> and IODA <https://ioda.org.br/>
>>> >     This message is restricted to the sender and recipient(s). If
>>> >     received by mistake, please reply informing it.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >     Em sex., 12 de jan. de 2024 às 08:53, Benjamin Akinmoyeje
>>> >     <benakin at gmail.com <mailto:benakin at gmail.com>> escreveu:
>>> >
>>> >         Dear Bruna,
>>> >         Apologies, I did not get that understanding... I have been away
>>> >         from my computer all day as I had mentioned earlier to is
>>> packed.
>>> >
>>> >         Please when is the next availability for you?
>>> >
>>> >         Kind regards,
>>> >         Benjamin
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >         On Fri, Jan 12, 2024 at 8:29 AM Bruna Martins dos Santos
>>> >         <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com <mailto:bruna.mrtns at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >             Heya, Ben, we didnt agree on 17h CET. I'm sorry for the
>>> >             confusion.
>>> >
>>> >             In my previous email I was free from 14h until 17h CET.
>>> >             Unfortunately I have another commitment at the time you
>>> >             suggested. Can it be earlier ?
>>> >
>>> >             On Fri, Jan 12, 2024 at 7:24 AM Benjamin Akinmoyeje
>>> >             <benakin at gmail.com <mailto:benakin at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >                 Dear Bruna & Pedro,
>>> >                 Good morning; my schedule is packed today. I am sure of
>>> >                 17 CET as agreed with Bruna earlier.
>>> >
>>> >                 Kind regards,
>>> >                 Benjamin
>>> >
>>> >                 On Fri, Jan 12, 2024 at 6:10 AM Bruna Martins dos
>>> Santos
>>> >                 <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com <mailto:bruna.mrtns at gmail.com>>
>>> >                 wrote:
>>> >
>>> >                     Hey all, Im still available at 15h CET. @Pedro de
>>> >                     Perdigão Lana
>>> >                     <mailto:pedrodeperdigaolana at gmail.com> let me know
>>> >                     if you can set up the meeting ? otherwise I will do
>>> >                     it from here.
>>> >
>>> >                     On Thu, Jan 11, 2024 at 6:58 PM Pedro de Perdigão
>>> >                     Lana <pedrodeperdigaolana at gmail.com
>>> >                     <mailto:pedrodeperdigaolana at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >                         Hi everyone! Can we schedule it around 15h-16h
>>> >                         CET then?
>>> >
>>> >                         If the answer is positive, do we have a
>>> >                         Zoom/GMeet/Other account at NCUC or would you
>>> >                         like me to send a link from one of my own?
>>> >
>>> >                         Cordially,
>>> >
>>> >                         *Pedro de Perdigão Lana*
>>> >                         Lawyer <https://www.sistemafiep.org.br/>,
>>> >                         GEDAI/UFPR <https://www.gedai.com.br/>
>>> Researcher
>>> >                         PhD Candidate (UFPR), LLM in Business Law
>>> (UCoimbra)
>>> >                         Board Member @ CC Brasil
>>> >                         <https://br.creativecommons.net/>, ISOC BR
>>> >                         <https://isoc.org.br/> and IODA
>>> >                         <https://ioda.org.br/>
>>> >                         This message is restricted to the sender and
>>> >                         recipient(s). If received by mistake, please
>>> >                         reply informing it.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >                         Em qui., 11 de jan. de 2024 às 14:30, Benjamin
>>> >                         Akinmoyeje <benakin at gmail.com
>>> >                         <mailto:benakin at gmail.com>> escreveu:
>>> >
>>> >                             I will be available at  that time.
>>> >
>>> >                             Great, see you tomorrow.
>>> >
>>> >                             Kind regards,
>>> >                             Benjamin
>>> >
>>> >                             On Thu, 11 Jan 2024 at 4:17 PM, Bruna
>>> >                             Martins dos Santos <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com
>>> >                             <mailto:bruna.mrtns at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >                                 @pedro, I trust its important to reach
>>> >                                 consensus about the session's concept
>>> >                                 before we start inviting or considering
>>> >                                 names of speakers.
>>> >
>>> >                                 @Benjamin Akinmoyeje
>>> >                                 <mailto:benakin at gmail.com>, Im free
>>> >                                 tomorrow afternoon between 14h to 17h
>>> CET.
>>> >
>>> >                                 Best,
>>> >                                 B
>>> >
>>> >                                 On Thu, Jan 11, 2024 at 3:15 PM
>>> Benjamin
>>> >                                 Akinmoyeje <benakin at gmail.com
>>> >                                 <mailto:benakin at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >                                     Dear Bruna,
>>> >                                     Good day, and thank you for your
>>> >                                     email. I agree with you that a call
>>> >                                     will be helpful.
>>> >                                     As we have indicated, we are open
>>> to
>>> >                                     collaboration, and advancing our HR
>>> >                                     discussions is critical.
>>> >
>>> >                                     Let me know your preferred times
>>> for
>>> >                                     the Zoom calls.
>>> >
>>> >                                     Kind regards,
>>> >                                     Benjamin
>>> >
>>> >                                     On Thu, Jan 11, 2024 at 12:49 PM
>>> >                                     Pedro de Perdigão Lana
>>> >                                     <pedrodeperdigaolana at gmail.com
>>> >                                     <mailto:
>>> pedrodeperdigaolana at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >                                         I’m available for that - would
>>> >                                         you like us to reach possible
>>> >                                         speakers and see their interest
>>> >                                         and knowledge in talking about
>>> >                                         this topic or for now should it
>>> >                                         be just us?
>>> >
>>> >                                         Cordially,
>>> >
>>> >                                         *Pedro de Perdigão Lana*
>>> >                                         Advogado - OAB/PR 90.600
>>> >                                         <
>>> https://www.sistemafiep.org.br/>, Pesquisador (GEDAI/UFPR <
>>> https://www.gedai.com.br/>)
>>> >                                         Doutorando em Direito (UFPR),
>>> >                                         Mestre em Direito Empresarial
>>> >                                         (UCoimbra),
>>> >                                         Membro da Coordenação - CC
>>> >                                         Brasil
>>> >                                         <
>>> https://br.creativecommons.net/>, ISOC BR <https://isoc.org.br/> e IODA
>>> <https://ioda.org.br/>
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>>> >
>>> >
>>> >                                         Em qui., 11 de jan. de 2024 às
>>> >                                         06:58, Bruna Martins dos Santos
>>> >                                         <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com
>>> >                                         <mailto:bruna.mrtns at gmail.com
>>> >>
>>> >                                         escreveu:
>>> >
>>> >                                             Ben and all, would it be
>>> >                                             possible for us to jump on
>>> a
>>> >                                             quick call these upcoming
>>> >                                             days about the session?
>>> >
>>> >                                             Just so we can discuss
>>> >                                             possible approaches and so
>>> >                                             on. Because I trust that a
>>> >                                             forum divided between the
>>> >                                             two topics would be somehow
>>> >                                             confusing, but one thing
>>> >                                             that can be done would be
>>> to
>>> >                                             have a speaker approaching
>>> >                                             the topic of Internet
>>> >                                             Fragmentation w/ a Human
>>> >                                             Rights lenses and further
>>> >                                             reinforcing that its a
>>> >                                             relevant discussion -
>>> >                                             especially from the
>>> >                                             perspective of avoiding the
>>> >                                             fragmentation of IG spaces
>>> -
>>> >                                             as we need all stakeholders
>>> >                                             at the same table and also
>>> >                                             being invited to promote
>>> >                                             some level of coordination
>>> >                                             between instances and
>>> topics.
>>> >
>>> >                                             But happy to organise a
>>> >                                             quick call since it would
>>> be
>>> >                                             important to hear and get
>>> on
>>> >                                             a brainstorming session on
>>> >                                             this topic.
>>> >
>>> >                                             kind regards,
>>> >                                             Bruna
>>> >
>>> >                                             On Wed, Jan 10, 2024 at
>>> >                                             7:03 AM Benjamin Akinmoyeje
>>> >                                             <benakin at gmail.com
>>> >                                             <mailto:benakin at gmail.com
>>> >>
>>> >                                             wrote:
>>> >
>>> >                                                 Dear Bruna,
>>> >                                                 My day was busy, and
>>> >                                                 there is some clarity
>>> at
>>> >                                                 this point. The NCUC is
>>> >                                                 ready and flexible to
>>> >                                                 merge our topic with
>>> >                                                 Global Partners Digital
>>> >                                                 for a rich NCUC Issue
>>> Forum.
>>> >                                                 There are multiple
>>> >                                                 discussion channels in
>>> >                                                 the planning of the
>>> NCUC
>>> >                                                 Issue forum.
>>> >                                                 We would like to have
>>> an
>>> >                                                 active leading role in
>>> >                                                 the session. We may
>>> have
>>> >                                                 a couple of Zoom
>>> >                                                 meetings to synergize
>>> >                                                 appropriately.
>>> >
>>> >                                                 I am attaching the
>>> early
>>> >                                                 draft of   NCUC. Issue
>>> >                                                 topic forum and added
>>> to
>>> >                                                 the list are the
>>> leading
>>> >                                                 collaborators Ephraim
>>> >                                                 and Ajith (PIR).
>>> >
>>> >                                                 PIR has been a regular
>>> >                                                 supporter of the NCUC
>>> >                                                 issue forum.
>>> >
>>> >                                                 We should make good
>>> >                                                 progress in this
>>> direction.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/12OX-BG-XEdAM5yZYYgin28SXCy8hFNIlRp-TjZ5FrgE/edit
>>> <
>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/12OX-BG-XEdAM5yZYYgin28SXCy8hFNIlRp-TjZ5FrgE/edit
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >                                                 Kind regards,
>>> >                                                 Benjamin
>>> >
>>> >                                                 On Tue, Jan 9, 2024 at
>>> >                                                 3:12 AM Bruna Martins
>>> >                                                 dos Santos
>>> >                                                 <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com
>>> >                                                 <mailto:
>>> bruna.mrtns at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >                                                     Thanks for the
>>> >                                                     reply, Ben.
>>> >
>>> >                                                     I understand NCUC
>>> >                                                     has some level of
>>> >                                                     independence for
>>> >                                                     setting up the
>>> >                                                     topics around the
>>> >                                                     Issues Forum. At
>>> the
>>> >                                                     opportunity I must
>>> >                                                     also take some time
>>> >                                                     to explain why Julf
>>> >                                                     and I thought it
>>> >                                                     would be a good
>>> idea:
>>> >
>>> >                                                     Internet
>>> >                                                     Fragmentation, as
>>> >                                                     you might know, has
>>> >                                                     been a very active
>>> >                                                     topic in the past
>>> >                                                     couple of years.
>>> >                                                     Especially since
>>> the
>>> >                                                     UNSG decided to
>>> >                                                     mention it as one
>>> of
>>> >                                                     the main
>>> discussions
>>> >                                                     to be developed
>>> >                                                     under the GDC
>>> >                                                     framework.
>>> >
>>> >                                                     Picking up on that,
>>> >                                                     spaces like ICANN
>>> >                                                     and the IGF decided
>>> >                                                     to dive themselves
>>> >                                                     and their
>>> >                                                     communities further
>>> >                                                     into the topic as a
>>> >                                                     diagnose-making
>>> >                                                     exercise. And this
>>> >                                                     resulted in the
>>> >                                                     plenary session
>>> >                                                     ICANN hosted back
>>> in
>>> >                                                     Malaysia, as well
>>> as
>>> >                                                     a lot of debates
>>> >                                                     within the IGF
>>> >                                                     spaces too. And in
>>> >                                                     most of such
>>> >                                                     conversations the
>>> >                                                     main conclusion was
>>> >                                                     that talking about
>>> >                                                     fragmentation could
>>> >                                                     be something that
>>> >                                                     reminds the broader
>>> >                                                     IG community about
>>> >                                                     the relevance of
>>> >                                                     fostering
>>> >                                                     coordination
>>> between
>>> >                                                     not only
>>> >                                                     stakeholders but
>>> >                                                     also technical
>>> >                                                     organisations such
>>> >                                                     as ICANN, ISOC, the
>>> >                                                     IETF and so on. All
>>> >                                                     of this became even
>>> >                                                     more relevant when
>>> -
>>> >                                                     more recently - the
>>> >                                                     Global Digital
>>> >                                                     Compact failed to
>>> >                                                     acknowledge the
>>> >                                                     technical community
>>> >                                                     as one stakeholder
>>> >                                                     and with that
>>> >                                                     ignoring a lot of
>>> >                                                     the WSIS and Tunis
>>> >                                                     Agenda
>>> advancements.
>>> >
>>> >                                                     Our main goal with
>>> >                                                     such a proposal for
>>> >                                                     NCUC was for your
>>> >                                                     issues forum to
>>> >                                                     discuss a topic
>>> >                                                     that’s extremely
>>> >                                                     pressing and has
>>> >                                                     been highlighted as
>>> >                                                     both ICANN Board
>>> and
>>> >                                                     CEOs priorities in
>>> >                                                     the past months.
>>> >
>>> >                                                     I’d say that I
>>> >                                                     respect your
>>> >                                                     decision but I
>>> >                                                     happen to think
>>> this
>>> >                                                     refusal is a bit
>>> sad
>>> >                                                     as the conversation
>>> >                                                     had potential and
>>> >                                                     could even serve as
>>> >                                                     a bridge to attract
>>> >                                                     new members to our
>>> >                                                     groups.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >                                                     Kind regards,
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >                                                     */Bruna Martins dos
>>> >                                                     Santos
>>> >                                                     /*
>>> >
>>> >                                                     Global Campaigns
>>> >                                                     Manager | Digital
>>> >                                                     Action
>>> >                                                     <
>>> http://digitalaction.co>
>>> >
>>> >                                                     German Chancellor
>>> >                                                     Fellow 21'
>>> >
>>>  (Bundeskanzler-Stipendiatin) | Alexander von Humboldt Foundation <
>>> https://www.humboldt-foundation.de/>
>>> >
>>> >                                                     Member | Coalizão
>>> >                                                     Direitos na Rede
>>> >                                                     <
>>> https://direitosnarede.org.br/>
>>> >                                                     Co-Coordinator |
>>> >                                                     Internet Governance
>>> >                                                     Caucus
>>> >                                                     <
>>> https://igcaucus.org/>
>>> >
>>> >                                                     Twitter:
>>> @boomartins
>>> >                                                     <
>>> https://twitter.com/boomartins> // Skype: bruna.martinsantos
>>> >                                                     Email:
>>> >
>>> bruna.mrtns at gmail.com <mailto:bruna.mrtns at gmail.com>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >                                                     Benjamin Akinmoyeje
>>> >                                                     <benakin at gmail.com
>>> >                                                     <mailto:
>>> benakin at gmail.com>> schrieb am Mo. 8. Jan. 2024 um 20:12:
>>> >
>>> >                                                         Dear Bruna,
>>> >                                                         Good day to
>>> you,
>>> >                                                         and  Happy
>>> New Year.
>>> >                                                         I had
>>> >                                                         proposed 30
>>> mins
>>> >                                                         because we only
>>> >                                                         had 75 mins and
>>> >                                                         as it appears.
>>> >                                                         The slot we got
>>> >                                                         is also a
>>> >                                                         shortfall from
>>> >                                                         what your
>>> >                                                         session
>>> requested,
>>> >
>>> >                                                         I believe the
>>> >                                                         NCUC Issue
>>> forum
>>> >                                                         can't be of use
>>> >                                                         to the group as
>>> >                                                         I had mentioned
>>> >                                                         to Julf
>>> earlier.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >                                                         Kind regards,
>>> >                                                         Benjamin
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >                                                         On Mon, Jan 8,
>>> >                                                         2024 at
>>> 10:49 AM
>>> >                                                         Bruna Martins
>>> >                                                         dos Santos
>>> >                                                         <
>>> bruna.mrtns at gmail.com <mailto:bruna.mrtns at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >                                                             Heya, Julf
>>> >                                                             and Ben,
>>> >
>>> >                                                             Good to
>>> hear
>>> >                                                             that NCUC
>>> is
>>> >                                                             willing to
>>> >
>>>  accommodate this discussion, but in order to move forward we would need to
>>> know how much time would NCUC be willing to allocate to us. And since its
>>> not a simple discussion, I'd say that 30 min or something around that won't
>>> really cut it as the session's goal was to present the issue and have a
>>> proper discussion w/ community.
>>> >
>>> >                                                             Also, it's
>>> a
>>> >                                                             NCSG and
>>> >                                                             Global
>>> >                                                             partners
>>> >                                                             Digital
>>> >                                                             initiative,
>>> >                                                             as part of
>>> a
>>> >                                                             joint
>>> >                                                             capacity
>>> >                                                             building
>>> >                                                             effort we
>>> >                                                             would like
>>> >                                                             to organize
>>> >                                                             with our
>>> >                                                             community.
>>> >                                                             You know
>>> >                                                             pretty well
>>> >                                                             how
>>> >                                                             meeting's
>>> >                                                             requests go
>>> >                                                             around
>>> ICANN
>>> >                                                             and that
>>> its
>>> >                                                             not really
>>> >                                                             possible
>>> for
>>> >                                                             "their team
>>> >                                                             to get
>>> their
>>> >                                                             session"
>>> >                                                             since
>>> >                                                             requests
>>> for
>>> >                                                             meetings
>>> and
>>> >                                                             rooms need
>>> >                                                             to come
>>> from
>>> >                                                             community
>>> >                                                             groups.
>>> >
>>> >                                                             In the
>>> hopes
>>> >                                                             of helping,
>>> >                                                             I have
>>> >                                                             crafted
>>> this
>>> >                                                             session
>>> >                                                             description
>>> >                                                             to share
>>> >                                                             with you.
>>> >                                                             Apologies
>>> >                                                             for not
>>> >                                                             sharing it
>>> >                                                             on friday,
>>> >                                                             the
>>> deadline
>>> >                                                             was a bit
>>> >                                                             short
>>> >                                                             without any
>>> >                                                             previous
>>> >                                                             warning.
>>> >                                                             Here's the
>>> >                                                             link:
>>> >
>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/10n0yAwRF4j9n4IuaVOuAkofFEsVyG-aiI8mWLnYt-bs/edit
>>> <
>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/10n0yAwRF4j9n4IuaVOuAkofFEsVyG-aiI8mWLnYt-bs/edit
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >                                                             Best,
>>> >                                                             Bruna
>>> >
>>> >                                                             On Sun, Jan
>>> >                                                             7, 2024 at
>>> >                                                             8:21 PM
>>> >                                                             Benjamin
>>> >                                                             Akinmoyeje
>>> >                                                             <
>>> benakin at gmail.com <mailto:benakin at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >                                                                 Dear
>>> Julf,
>>> >                                                                 Thank
>>> >                                                                 you for
>>> >
>>>  your email.
>>> >
>>> >                                                                 My
>>> >
>>>  response
>>> >                                                                 was
>>> just
>>> >                                                                 to
>>> share
>>> >                                                                 that
>>> >                                                                 NCUC
>>> was
>>> >                                                                 willing
>>> >                                                                 to
>>> >
>>>  accommodate the Global Partners within our routine Issue Forum, however,
>>> if that is not possible. It may be a good idea for the team to get their
>>> session.
>>> >
>>> >
>>>  Kind regards,
>>> >
>>>  Benjamin
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >                                                                 On Sun,
>>> >                                                                 Jan 7,
>>> >                                                                 2024 at
>>> >                                                                 4:42 PM
>>> >                                                                 Johan
>>> >
>>>  Helsingius <julf at julf.com <mailto:julf at julf.com>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >
>>>  Dear
>>> >
>>>  Benjamin,
>>> >
>>> >                                                                     As
>>> >
>>>  originally planned, the plenary session for ICANN79 was supposed to
>>> >                                                                     be
>>> >
>>>  1h30. Not sure how much shorter it can be made.
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>> >
>>>
>>> >
>>>  Julf
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >                                                                     On
>>> >
>>>  05/01/2024 11:21, Benjamin Akinmoyeje wrote:
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >
>>>  Dear
>>> >
>>>  Julf
>>> >                                                                     and
>>> >
>>>  Bruna,
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >
>>>  Happy New Year, and I hope you enjoyed your holidays.
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >                                                                     We
>>> >
>>>  plan
>>> >                                                                     to
>>> >
>>>  discuss the session on Monday in our EC meeting, as stated by
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >
>>>  Pedro.
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >
>>>  However, we need some quick inputs.
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >                                                                     We
>>> >
>>>  have
>>> >                                                                     75
>>> >
>>>  minutes reserved for the NCUC Issue Forum; how long would the
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >
>>>  Internet Fragmentation briefing take?
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >
>>>  Please provide the time and succinct description for us to see how we
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >                                                                     can
>>> >
>>>  merge the session. Andrea requires that we finalize the description
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >                                                                     for
>>> >                                                                     the
>>> >
>>>  session today.
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >
>>>  Kind regards,
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >
>>>  Benjamin
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >                                                                     On
>>> >
>>>  Wed,
>>> >                                                                     Dec
>>> >                                                                     20,
>>> >
>>>  2023
>>> >                                                                     at
>>> >
>>>  7:29 PM Bruna Martins dos Santos
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >                                                                     <
>>> bruna.mrtns at gmail.com <mailto:bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> <mailto:
>>> bruna.mrtns at gmail.com <mailto:bruna.mrtns at gmail.com>>> wrote:
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >
>>> >
>>>  Hey all, yes exactly!
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >
>>> >
>>>  We
>>> >
>>>  will
>>> >
>>>  still organize one or two webinars prior to ICANN79 and then
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >
>>> >
>>>  had a plan for a  plenary session that wasn’t much attractive in the
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >
>>> >
>>>  eyes of other chairs. Our proposal, therefore, would be to transform
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >
>>> >
>>>  the plenary into the issues forum !
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >
>>> >
>>>  Best,
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >
>>> >
>>>  Bruna
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >
>>> >
>>>  */Bruna Martins dos Santos
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >
>>>  /*
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >
>>> >
>>>  Global Campaigns Manager | Digital Action <http://digitalaction.co <
>>> http://digitalaction.co>>
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >
>>> >
>>>  German Chancellor Fellow 21' (Bundeskanzler-Stipendiatin) |
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >
>>> >
>>>  Alexander von Humboldt Foundation <https://www.humboldt-foundation.de/
>>> <https://www.humboldt-foundation.de/>>
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >
>>> >
>>>  Member | Coalizão Direitos na Rede <https://direitosnarede.org.br/ <
>>> https://direitosnarede.org.br/>>
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >
>>> >
>>>  Co-Coordinator | Internet Governance Caucus <https://igcaucus.org/ <
>>> https://igcaucus.org/>>
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >
>>> >
>>>  Twitter: @boomartins <https://twitter.com/boomartins <
>>> https://twitter.com/boomartins>> // Skype:
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >
>>> >
>>>  bruna.martinsantos
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >
>>> >
>>>  Email: bruna.mrtns at gmail.com <mailto:bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> <mailto:
>>> bruna.mrtns at gmail.com <mailto:bruna.mrtns at gmail.com>>
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >
>>> >
>>>  Johan Helsingius <julf at julf.com <mailto:julf at julf.com> <mailto:
>>> julf at julf.com <mailto:julf at julf.com>>> schrieb am
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >
>>> >
>>>  Mi. 20. Dez. 2023 um 17:36:
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >
>>>
>>> >
>>> >
>>>  As
>>> >                                                                     far
>>> >                                                                     as
>>> I
>>> >
>>>  know
>>> >
>>>  (but
>>> >
>>>  Bruna can clarify and correct me if I am
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >
>>>
>>> >
>>> >
>>>  wrong),
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >
>>>
>>> >
>>> >
>>>  nothing has been nailed down yet, but the preliminary plan was
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >
>>>
>>> >
>>> >
>>>  to do
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >
>>>
>>> >
>>> >
>>>  part 1 as a webinar before ICANN79, and then 2 at ICANN79.
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >
>>>
>>> >
>>>
>>> >
>>>
>>> >
>>>
>>> >
>>>  Julf
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >
>>>
>>> >
>>> >
>>>  On
>>> >
>>>  20/12/2023 11:24, Pedro de Perdigão Lana wrote:
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >
>>>
>>> >
>>>
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> Hi,
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >
>>>
>>> >
>>>   >
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >
>>>
>>> >
>>>
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> I
>>> >
>>>  have
>>> >                                                                     a
>>> >
>>>  question here: Is the proposal about the Plenary
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >
>>>
>>> >
>>> >
>>>  Session
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >
>>>
>>> >
>>>
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >
>>>  (Output 2) being modified to our Issues Forum, or they are
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >
>>>
>>> >
>>> >
>>>  doing Output
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >
>>>
>>> >
>>>
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> 1
>>> >
>>>  with
>>> >                                                                     us
>>> >
>>>  and,
>>> >
>>>  also
>>> >
>>>  during ICANN 79, another session on Internet
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >
>>>
>>> >
>>>
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >
>>>  Fragmentation?
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >
>>>
>>> >
>>>   >
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >
>>>
>>> >
>>>
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >
>>>  Cordially,
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >
>>>
>>> >
>>>   >
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >
>>>
>>> >
>>>
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >
>>>  *Pedro de Perdigão Lana*
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >
>>>
>>> >
>>>
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >
>>>  Lawyer <https://www.sistemafiep.org.br/ <
>>> https://www.sistemafiep.org.br/>
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >
>>>
>>> >
>>> >                                                                       <
>>> https://www.sistemafiep.org.br/ <https://www.sistemafiep.org.br/>>>,
>>> GEDAI/UFPR
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >
>>>
>>> >
>>>
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >                                                                     <
>>> https://www.gedai.com.br/ <https://www.gedai.com.br/> <
>>> https://www.gedai.com.br/ <https://www.gedai.com.br/>>>
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >
>>>
>>> >
>>> >
>>>  Researcher
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >
>>>
>>> >
>>>
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >                                                                     PhD
>>> >
>>>  Candidate (UFPR), LLM in Business Law (UCoimbra)
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >
>>>
>>> >
>>>
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >
>>>  Board Member @ CC Brasil <https://br.creativecommons.net/ <
>>> https://br.creativecommons.net/>
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >
>>>
>>> >
>>> >                                                                       <
>>> https://br.creativecommons.net/ <https://br.creativecommons.net/>>>,
>>> ISOC BR
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >
>>>
>>> >
>>>
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >                                                                     <
>>> https://isoc.org.br/ <https://isoc.org.br/> <https://isoc.org.br/ <
>>> https://isoc.org.br/>>> and IODA
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >
>>>
>>> >
>>> >                                                                       <
>>> https://ioda.org.br/ <https://ioda.org.br/> <https://ioda.org.br/ <
>>> https://ioda.org.br/>>>
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >
>>>
>>> >
>>>
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >
>>>  This
>>> >
>>>  message is restricted to the sender and recipient(s). If
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >
>>>
>>> >
>>> >
>>>  received
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >
>>>
>>> >
>>>
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >                                                                     by
>>> >
>>>  mistake, please reply informing it.
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >
>>>
>>> >
>>>   >
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >
>>>
>>> >
>>>   >
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >
>>>
>>> >
>>>
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >                                                                     Em
>>> >
>>>  qua., 20 de dez. de 2023 às 11:57, Johan Helsingius
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >
>>>
>>> >
>>> >                                                                       <
>>> julf at julf.com <mailto:julf at julf.com> <mailto:julf at julf.com <mailto:
>>> julf at julf.com>>
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >
>>>
>>> >
>>>
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >
>>>  <mailto:julf at julf.com <mailto:julf at julf.com> <mailto:julf at julf.com
>>> <mailto:julf at julf.com>>>> escreveu:
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >
>>>
>>> >
>>>   >
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >
>>>
>>> >
>>>   >
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >
>>>
>>> >
>>>   >
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >
>>>
>>> >
>>>   >
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >
>>>
>>> >
>>>
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >
>>> >
>>>  -------- Forwarded Message --------
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >
>>>
>>> >
>>>
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >
>>> >
>>>  Subject:        Re: [Ext] Re: Possible collaboration -
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >
>>>
>>> >
>>> >
>>>  Internet
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >
>>>
>>> >
>>>
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >
>>> >
>>>  fragmentation
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >
>>>
>>> >
>>>
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >
>>> >
>>>  briefing series
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >
>>>
>>> >
>>>
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >
>>> >
>>>  Date:   Tue, 28 Nov 2023 23:22:38 +0000
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >
>>>
>>> >
>>>
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >
>>> >
>>>  From:   Michaela Nakayama Shapiro
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >
>>>
>>> >
>>> >                                                                       <
>>> michaela at gp-digital.org <mailto:michaela at gp-digital.org> <mailto:
>>> michaela at gp-digital.org <mailto:michaela at gp-digital.org>>
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >
>>>
>>> >
>>>
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >
>>> >
>>>  <mailto:michaela at gp-digital.org <mailto:michaela at gp-digital.org>
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >
>>>
>>> >
>>> >
>>>  <mailto:michaela at gp-digital.org <mailto:michaela at gp-digital.org>>>>
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >
>>>
>>> >
>>>
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >
>>> >
>>>  To:     Bruna Martins dos Santos <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com <mailto:
>>> bruna.mrtns at gmail.com>
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >
>>>
>>> >
>>> >
>>>  <mailto:bruna.mrtns at gmail.com <mailto:bruna.mrtns at gmail.com>>
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >
>>>
>>> >
>>>
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >
>>> >
>>>  <mailto:bruna.mrtns at gmail.com <mailto:bruna.mrtns at gmail.com>
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >
>>>
>>> >
>>> >
>>>  <mailto:bruna.mrtns at gmail.com <mailto:bruna.mrtns at gmail.com>>>>
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >
>>>
>>> >
>>>
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >
>>> >
>>>  CC:     Daniela Schnidrig <daniela at gp-digital.org <mailto:
>>> daniela at gp-digital.org>
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >
>>>
>>> >
>>> >
>>>  <mailto:daniela at gp-digital.org <mailto:daniela at gp-digital.org>>
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >
>>>
>>> >
>>>
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >
>>> >
>>>  <mailto:daniela at gp-digital.org <mailto:daniela at gp-digital.org>
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >
>>>
>>> >
>>> >
>>>  <mailto:daniela at gp-digital.org <mailto:daniela at gp-digital.org>>>>,
>>> Sheetal Kumar
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >
>>>
>>> >
>>>
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >
>>> >                                                                       <
>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org <mailto:sheetal at gp-digital.org> <mailto:
>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org <mailto:sheetal at gp-digital.org>>
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >
>>>
>>> >
>>> >
>>>  <mailto:sheetal at gp-digital.org <mailto:sheetal at gp-digital.org>
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >
>>>
>>> >
>>> >
>>>  <mailto:sheetal at gp-digital.org <mailto:sheetal at gp-digital.org>>>>,
>>> Keerti
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >
>>>
>>> >
>>>
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >
>>> >
>>>  Rajagopalan <keerti at gp-digital.org <mailto:keerti at gp-digital.org>
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >
>>>
>>> >
>>> >
>>>  <mailto:keerti at gp-digital.org <mailto:keerti at gp-digital.org>> <mailto:
>>> keerti at gp-digital.org <mailto:keerti at gp-digital.org>
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >
>>>
>>> >
>>> >
>>>  <mailto:keerti at gp-digital.org <mailto:keerti at gp-digital.org>>>>,
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >
>>>
>>> >
>>>
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >
>>> >
>>>  Johan Helsingius <julf at julf.com <mailto:julf at julf.com> <mailto:
>>> julf at julf.com <mailto:julf at julf.com>>
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >
>>>
>>> >
>>> >
>>>  <mailto:julf at julf.com <mailto:julf at julf.com> <mailto:julf at julf.com
>>> <mailto:julf at julf.com>>>>, Andrea Glandon
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >
>>>
>>> >
>>>
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >
>>> >                                                                       <
>>> andrea.glandon at icann.org <mailto:andrea.glandon at icann.org>
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >
>>>
>>> >
>>> >
>>>  <mailto:andrea.glandon at icann.org <mailto:andrea.glandon at icann.org>>
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >
>>>
>>> >
>>> >
>>>  <mailto:andrea.glandon at icann.org <mailto:andrea.glandon at icann.org>
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >
>>>
>>> >
>>> >
>>>  <mailto:andrea.glandon at icann.org <mailto:andrea.glandon at icann.org>>>>,
>>> Adam
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >
>>>
>>> >
>>>
>>> >                                                                      >
>>> >
>>> >
>>>  Peake <adam.peake at icann.org <mailto: <adam.peake at icann.org>
>>
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