[NCUC-EC] [Ext] Re: Possible collaboration - Internet fragmentation briefing series
Bruna Martins dos Santos
bruna.mrtns at gmail.com
Thu Jan 11 10:58:13 CET 2024
Ben and all, would it be possible for us to jump on a quick call these
upcoming days about the session?
Just so we can discuss possible approaches and so on. Because I trust that
a forum divided between the two topics would be somehow confusing, but one
thing that can be done would be to have a speaker approaching the topic of
Internet Fragmentation w/ a Human Rights lenses and further reinforcing
that its a relevant discussion - especially from the perspective of
avoiding the fragmentation of IG spaces - as we need all stakeholders at
the same table and also being invited to promote some level of coordination
between instances and topics.
But happy to organise a quick call since it would be important to hear and
get on a brainstorming session on this topic.
kind regards,
Bruna
On Wed, Jan 10, 2024 at 7:03 AM Benjamin Akinmoyeje <benakin at gmail.com>
wrote:
> Dear Bruna,
> My day was busy, and there is some clarity at this point. The NCUC is
> ready and flexible to merge our topic with Global Partners Digital for a
> rich NCUC Issue Forum.
> There are multiple discussion channels in the planning of the NCUC Issue
> forum.
> We would like to have an active leading role in the session. We may have a
> couple of Zoom meetings to synergize appropriately.
>
> I am attaching the early draft of NCUC. Issue topic forum and added to
> the list are the leading collaborators Ephraim and Ajith (PIR).
>
> PIR has been a regular supporter of the NCUC issue forum.
>
> We should make good progress in this direction.
>
>
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/12OX-BG-XEdAM5yZYYgin28SXCy8hFNIlRp-TjZ5FrgE/edit
>
> Kind regards,
> Benjamin
>
> On Tue, Jan 9, 2024 at 3:12 AM Bruna Martins dos Santos <
> bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the reply, Ben.
>>
>> I understand NCUC has some level of independence for setting up the
>> topics around the Issues Forum. At the opportunity I must also take some
>> time to explain why Julf and I thought it would be a good idea:
>>
>> Internet Fragmentation, as you might know, has been a very active topic
>> in the past couple of years. Especially since the UNSG decided to mention
>> it as one of the main discussions to be developed under the GDC framework.
>>
>> Picking up on that, spaces like ICANN and the IGF decided to dive
>> themselves and their communities further into the topic as a
>> diagnose-making exercise. And this resulted in the plenary session ICANN
>> hosted back in Malaysia, as well as a lot of debates within the IGF spaces
>> too. And in most of such conversations the main conclusion was that talking
>> about fragmentation could be something that reminds the broader IG
>> community about the relevance of fostering coordination between not only
>> stakeholders but also technical organisations such as ICANN, ISOC, the IETF
>> and so on. All of this became even more relevant when - more recently - the
>> Global Digital Compact failed to acknowledge the technical community as one
>> stakeholder and with that ignoring a lot of the WSIS and Tunis Agenda
>> advancements.
>>
>> Our main goal with such a proposal for NCUC was for your issues forum to
>> discuss a topic that’s extremely pressing and has been highlighted as both
>> ICANN Board and CEOs priorities in the past months.
>>
>> I’d say that I respect your decision but I happen to think this refusal
>> is a bit sad as the conversation had potential and could even serve as a
>> bridge to attract new members to our groups.
>>
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> *Bruna Martins dos Santos *
>>
>> Global Campaigns Manager | Digital Action <http://digitalaction.co>
>>
>> German Chancellor Fellow 21' (Bundeskanzler-Stipendiatin) | Alexander
>> von Humboldt Foundation <https://www.humboldt-foundation.de/>
>>
>> Member | Coalizão Direitos na Rede <https://direitosnarede.org.br/>
>> Co-Coordinator | Internet Governance Caucus <https://igcaucus.org/>
>>
>> Twitter: @boomartins <https://twitter.com/boomartins> // Skype:
>> bruna.martinsantos
>> Email: bruna.mrtns at gmail.com
>>
>>
>> Benjamin Akinmoyeje <benakin at gmail.com> schrieb am Mo. 8. Jan. 2024 um
>> 20:12:
>>
>>> Dear Bruna,
>>> Good day to you, and Happy New Year.
>>> I had proposed 30 mins because we only had 75 mins and as it appears.
>>> The slot we got is also a shortfall from what your session requested,
>>>
>>> I believe the NCUC Issue forum can't be of use to the group as I had
>>> mentioned to Julf earlier.
>>>
>>>
>>> Kind regards,
>>> Benjamin
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 8, 2024 at 10:49 AM Bruna Martins dos Santos <
>>> bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Heya, Julf and Ben,
>>>>
>>>> Good to hear that NCUC is willing to accommodate this discussion, but
>>>> in order to move forward we would need to know how much time would NCUC be
>>>> willing to allocate to us. And since its not a simple discussion, I'd say
>>>> that 30 min or something around that won't really cut it as the session's
>>>> goal was to present the issue and have a proper discussion w/ community.
>>>>
>>>> Also, it's a NCSG and Global partners Digital initiative, as part of a
>>>> joint capacity building effort we would like to organize with our
>>>> community. You know pretty well how meeting's requests go around ICANN and
>>>> that its not really possible for "their team to get their session" since
>>>> requests for meetings and rooms need to come from community groups.
>>>>
>>>> In the hopes of helping, I have crafted this session description to
>>>> share with you. Apologies for not sharing it on friday, the deadline was a
>>>> bit short without any previous warning. Here's the link:
>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/10n0yAwRF4j9n4IuaVOuAkofFEsVyG-aiI8mWLnYt-bs/edit
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> Bruna
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Jan 7, 2024 at 8:21 PM Benjamin Akinmoyeje <benakin at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Dear Julf,
>>>>> Thank you for your email.
>>>>>
>>>>> My response was just to share that NCUC was willing to accommodate the
>>>>> Global Partners within our routine Issue Forum, however, if that is
>>>>> not possible. It may be a good idea for the team to get their session.
>>>>>
>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>> Benjamin
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Jan 7, 2024 at 4:42 PM Johan Helsingius <julf at julf.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear Benjamin,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As originally planned, the plenary session for ICANN79 was supposed to
>>>>>> be 1h30. Not sure how much shorter it can be made.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Julf
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 05/01/2024 11:21, Benjamin Akinmoyeje wrote:
>>>>>> > Dear Julf and Bruna,
>>>>>> > Happy New Year, and I hope you enjoyed your holidays.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > We plan to discuss the session on Monday in our EC meeting, as
>>>>>> stated by
>>>>>> > Pedro.
>>>>>> > However, we need some quick inputs.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > We have 75 minutes reserved for the NCUC Issue Forum; how long
>>>>>> would the
>>>>>> > Internet Fragmentation briefing take?
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Please provide the time and succinct description for us to see how
>>>>>> we
>>>>>> > can merge the session. Andrea requires that we finalize the
>>>>>> description
>>>>>> > for the session today.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Kind regards,
>>>>>> > Benjamin
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > On Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 7:29 PM Bruna Martins dos Santos
>>>>>> > <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com <mailto:bruna.mrtns at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Hey all, yes exactly!
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > We will still organize one or two webinars prior to ICANN79 and
>>>>>> then
>>>>>> > had a plan for a plenary session that wasn’t much attractive
>>>>>> in the
>>>>>> > eyes of other chairs. Our proposal, therefore, would be to
>>>>>> transform
>>>>>> > the plenary into the issues forum !
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Best,
>>>>>> > Bruna
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > */Bruna Martins dos Santos
>>>>>> > /*
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Global Campaigns Manager | Digital Action <
>>>>>> http://digitalaction.co>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > German Chancellor Fellow 21' (Bundeskanzler-Stipendiatin) |
>>>>>> > Alexander von Humboldt Foundation <
>>>>>> https://www.humboldt-foundation.de/>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Member | Coalizão Direitos na Rede <
>>>>>> https://direitosnarede.org.br/>
>>>>>> > Co-Coordinator | Internet Governance Caucus <
>>>>>> https://igcaucus.org/>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Twitter: @boomartins <https://twitter.com/boomartins> // Skype:
>>>>>> > bruna.martinsantos
>>>>>> > Email: bruna.mrtns at gmail.com <mailto:bruna.mrtns at gmail.com>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Johan Helsingius <julf at julf.com <mailto:julf at julf.com>>
>>>>>> schrieb am
>>>>>> > Mi. 20. Dez. 2023 um 17:36:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > As far as I know (but Bruna can clarify and correct me if I
>>>>>> am
>>>>>> > wrong),
>>>>>> > nothing has been nailed down yet, but the preliminary plan
>>>>>> was
>>>>>> > to do
>>>>>> > part 1 as a webinar before ICANN79, and then 2 at ICANN79.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Julf
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > On 20/12/2023 11:24, Pedro de Perdigão Lana wrote:
>>>>>> > > Hi,
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > > I have a question here: Is the proposal about the Plenary
>>>>>> > Session
>>>>>> > > (Output 2) being modified to our Issues Forum, or they
>>>>>> are
>>>>>> > doing Output
>>>>>> > > 1 with us and, also during ICANN 79, another session on
>>>>>> Internet
>>>>>> > > Fragmentation?
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > > Cordially,
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > > *Pedro de Perdigão Lana*
>>>>>> > > Lawyer <https://www.sistemafiep.org.br/
>>>>>> > <https://www.sistemafiep.org.br/>>, GEDAI/UFPR
>>>>>> > > <https://www.gedai.com.br/ <https://www.gedai.com.br/>>
>>>>>> > Researcher
>>>>>> > > PhD Candidate (UFPR), LLM in Business Law (UCoimbra)
>>>>>> > > Board Member @ CC Brasil <
>>>>>> https://br.creativecommons.net/
>>>>>> > <https://br.creativecommons.net/>>, ISOC BR
>>>>>> > > <https://isoc.org.br/ <https://isoc.org.br/>> and IODA
>>>>>> > <https://ioda.org.br/ <https://ioda.org.br/>>
>>>>>> > > This message is restricted to the sender and
>>>>>> recipient(s). If
>>>>>> > received
>>>>>> > > by mistake, please reply informing it.
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > > Em qua., 20 de dez. de 2023 às 11:57, Johan Helsingius
>>>>>> > <julf at julf.com <mailto:julf at julf.com>
>>>>>> > > <mailto:julf at julf.com <mailto:julf at julf.com>>> escreveu:
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > > -------- Forwarded Message --------
>>>>>> > > Subject: Re: [Ext] Re: Possible collaboration
>>>>>> -
>>>>>> > Internet
>>>>>> > > fragmentation
>>>>>> > > briefing series
>>>>>> > > Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2023 23:22:38 +0000
>>>>>> > > From: Michaela Nakayama Shapiro
>>>>>> > <michaela at gp-digital.org <mailto:michaela at gp-digital.org>
>>>>>> > > <mailto:michaela at gp-digital.org
>>>>>> > <mailto:michaela at gp-digital.org>>>
>>>>>> > > To: Bruna Martins dos Santos <
>>>>>> bruna.mrtns at gmail.com
>>>>>> > <mailto:bruna.mrtns at gmail.com>
>>>>>> > > <mailto:bruna.mrtns at gmail.com
>>>>>> > <mailto:bruna.mrtns at gmail.com>>>
>>>>>> > > CC: Daniela Schnidrig <daniela at gp-digital.org
>>>>>> > <mailto:daniela at gp-digital.org>
>>>>>> > > <mailto:daniela at gp-digital.org
>>>>>> > <mailto:daniela at gp-digital.org>>>, Sheetal Kumar
>>>>>> > > <sheetal at gp-digital.org <mailto:
>>>>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org>
>>>>>> > <mailto:sheetal at gp-digital.org
>>>>>> > <mailto:sheetal at gp-digital.org>>>, Keerti
>>>>>> > > Rajagopalan <keerti at gp-digital.org
>>>>>> > <mailto:keerti at gp-digital.org> <mailto:
>>>>>> keerti at gp-digital.org
>>>>>> > <mailto:keerti at gp-digital.org>>>,
>>>>>> > > Johan Helsingius <julf at julf.com <mailto:
>>>>>> julf at julf.com>
>>>>>> > <mailto:julf at julf.com <mailto:julf at julf.com>>>, Andrea
>>>>>> Glandon
>>>>>> > > <andrea.glandon at icann.org
>>>>>> > <mailto:andrea.glandon at icann.org>
>>>>>> > <mailto:andrea.glandon at icann.org
>>>>>> > <mailto:andrea.glandon at icann.org>>>, Adam
>>>>>> > > Peake <adam.peake at icann.org <mailto:
>>>>>> adam.peake at icann.org>
>>>>>> > <mailto:adam.peake at icann.org <mailto:adam.peake at icann.org
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > > Hi Bruna,
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > > As discussed on our recent call, we have put
>>>>>> together a
>>>>>> > more detailed
>>>>>> > > version of the concept note for the briefing series
>>>>>> > (accessible here
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > <
>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/18M7cjAiGBhOHOEDR_KZzFE5Gr1XA4meRUBUxGo3oaug/edit?usp=sharing
>>>>>> <
>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/18M7cjAiGBhOHOEDR_KZzFE5Gr1XA4meRUBUxGo3oaug/edit?usp=sharing>
>>>>>> <
>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/18M7cjAiGBhOHOEDR_KZzFE5Gr1XA4meRUBUxGo3oaug/edit?usp=sharing
>>>>>> <
>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/18M7cjAiGBhOHOEDR_KZzFE5Gr1XA4meRUBUxGo3oaug/edit?usp=sharing
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> > > and attached). The concept note now includes
>>>>>> additional
>>>>>> > context on
>>>>>> > > internet fragmentation as it relates to ICANN's
>>>>>> mandate
>>>>>> > on the basis of
>>>>>> > > recent trends and the 2022 plenary on the topic.
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > > Based on our discussion and in light of the upcoming
>>>>>> > production
>>>>>> > > planning
>>>>>> > > call, we have included a timeline for finalising the
>>>>>> > concept note in a
>>>>>> > > table with roles and responsibilities across our
>>>>>> teams
>>>>>> > (see p.6). We
>>>>>> > > wanted to ask whether it would be possible for you
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> > the ICANN
>>>>>> > > team to
>>>>>> > > _review and share any feedback with us by EOW (1
>>>>>> > December)?_ This would
>>>>>> > > be to ensure we have enough time to integrate any
>>>>>> > feedback and
>>>>>> > > circulate
>>>>>> > > an updated draft to you by early next week to be
>>>>>> > finalised by 6
>>>>>> > > December.
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > > We also wanted to check whether there have been any
>>>>>> > updates on the
>>>>>> > > deadlines for suggesting plenaries for San Juan?
>>>>>> > Additionally, should
>>>>>> > > you have a sense of whether other parts of the
>>>>>> community
>>>>>> > would be
>>>>>> > > willing to support a plenary like this that would be
>>>>>> very
>>>>>> > helpful to
>>>>>> > > know for finalising the concept note.
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > > Please let us know if you have any questions. Looking
>>>>>> > forward to
>>>>>> > > hearing
>>>>>> > > from you soon!
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > > Best,
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > > Michaela
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > > --
>>>>>> > > *
>>>>>> > > *
>>>>>> > > *Michaela Nakayama Shapiro*
>>>>>> > > Officer, Advocacy & Engagement | GLOBAL PARTNERS
>>>>>> DIGITAL
>>>>>> > > T: +44 (0)7742 758019 | Time zone: GMT+1 |
>>>>>> gp-digital.org
>>>>>> > <http://gp-digital.org>
>>>>>> > > <http://gp-digital.org <http://gp-digital.org>>
>>>>>> > > <http://gp-digital.org/ <http://gp-digital.org/>
>>>>>> > <http://gp-digital.org/ <http://gp-digital.org/>>>
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > > ---
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > >
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>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > > On Tue, 21 Nov 2023 at 11:35, Johan Helsingius
>>>>>> > <julf at julf.com <mailto:julf at julf.com>
>>>>>> > > <mailto:julf at julf.com <mailto:julf at julf.com>>
>>>>>> > > <mailto:julf at julf.com <mailto:julf at julf.com>
>>>>>> > <mailto:julf at julf.com <mailto:julf at julf.com>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > > On 21/11/2023 11:55, Daniela Schnidrig wrote:
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > > > * We agreed that Bruna and Julf would
>>>>>> review
>>>>>> > deadlines for
>>>>>> > > suggesting
>>>>>> > > > a plenary session for San Juan and
>>>>>> circle
>>>>>> > back this week to
>>>>>> > > > ascertain whether it's feasible.
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > > On that point, it might still be possible. The
>>>>>> > plenary session
>>>>>> > > contents
>>>>>> > > will be discussed at the production planning
>>>>>> call
>>>>>> > on December
>>>>>> > > 6. For
>>>>>> > > that we should have a well-prepared proposal.
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > > Julf
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> *Bruna Martins dos Santos *
>>>>
>>>> Global Campaigns Manager | Digital Action <http://digitalaction.co>
>>>>
>>>> German Chancellor Fellow 21' (Bundeskanzler-Stipendiatin) | Alexander
>>>> von Humboldt Foundation <https://www.humboldt-foundation.de/>
>>>>
>>>> Member | Coalizão Direitos na Rede <https://direitosnarede.org.br/>
>>>> Co-Coordinator | Internet Governance Caucus <https://igcaucus.org/>
>>>>
>>>> Twitter: @boomartins <https://twitter.com/boomartins> // Skype:
>>>> bruna.martinsantos
>>>> Email: bruna.mrtns at gmail.com
>>>>
>>>
--
*Bruna Martins dos Santos *
Global Campaigns Manager | Digital Action <http://digitalaction.co>
German Chancellor Fellow 21' (Bundeskanzler-Stipendiatin) | Alexander von
Humboldt Foundation <https://www.humboldt-foundation.de/>
Member | Coalizão Direitos na Rede <https://direitosnarede.org.br/>
Co-Coordinator | Internet Governance Caucus <https://igcaucus.org/>
Twitter: @boomartins <https://twitter.com/boomartins> // Skype:
bruna.martinsantos
Email: bruna.mrtns at gmail.com
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