[NCUC-EC] [Ext] Re: Possible collaboration - Internet fragmentation briefing series

Bruna Martins dos Santos bruna.mrtns at gmail.com
Thu Jan 11 10:58:13 CET 2024


Ben and all, would it be possible for us to jump on a quick call these
upcoming days about the session?

Just so we can discuss possible approaches and so on. Because I trust that
a forum divided between the two topics would be somehow confusing, but one
thing that can be done would be to have a speaker approaching the topic of
Internet Fragmentation w/ a Human Rights lenses and further reinforcing
that its a relevant discussion - especially from the perspective of
avoiding the fragmentation of IG spaces - as we need all stakeholders at
the same table and also being invited to promote some level of coordination
between instances and topics.

But happy to organise a quick call since it would be important to hear and
get on a brainstorming session on this topic.

kind regards,
Bruna

On Wed, Jan 10, 2024 at 7:03 AM Benjamin Akinmoyeje <benakin at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Dear Bruna,
> My day was busy, and there is some clarity at this point. The NCUC is
> ready and flexible to merge our topic with Global Partners Digital for a
> rich NCUC Issue Forum.
> There are multiple discussion channels in the planning of the NCUC Issue
> forum.
> We would like to have an active leading role in the session. We may have a
> couple of Zoom meetings to synergize appropriately.
>
> I am attaching the early draft of   NCUC. Issue topic forum and added to
> the list are the leading collaborators Ephraim and Ajith (PIR).
>
> PIR has been a regular supporter of the NCUC issue forum.
>
> We should make good progress in this direction.
>
>
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/12OX-BG-XEdAM5yZYYgin28SXCy8hFNIlRp-TjZ5FrgE/edit
>
> Kind regards,
> Benjamin
>
> On Tue, Jan 9, 2024 at 3:12 AM Bruna Martins dos Santos <
> bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the reply, Ben.
>>
>> I understand NCUC has some level of independence for setting up the
>> topics around the Issues Forum. At the opportunity I must also take some
>> time to explain why Julf and I thought it would be a good idea:
>>
>> Internet Fragmentation, as you might know, has been a very active topic
>> in the past couple of years. Especially since the UNSG decided to mention
>> it as one of the main discussions to be developed under the GDC framework.
>>
>> Picking up on that, spaces like ICANN and the IGF decided to dive
>> themselves and their communities further into the topic as a
>> diagnose-making exercise. And this resulted in the plenary session ICANN
>> hosted back in Malaysia, as well as a lot of debates within the IGF spaces
>> too. And in most of such conversations the main conclusion was that talking
>> about fragmentation could be something that reminds the broader IG
>> community about the relevance of fostering coordination between not only
>> stakeholders but also technical organisations such as ICANN, ISOC, the IETF
>> and so on. All of this became even more relevant when - more recently - the
>> Global Digital Compact failed to acknowledge the technical community as one
>> stakeholder and with that ignoring a lot of the WSIS and Tunis Agenda
>> advancements.
>>
>> Our main goal with such a proposal for NCUC was for your issues forum to
>> discuss a topic that’s extremely pressing and has been highlighted as both
>> ICANN Board and CEOs priorities in the past months.
>>
>> I’d say that I respect your decision but I happen to think this refusal
>> is a bit sad as the conversation had potential and could even serve as a
>> bridge to attract new members to our groups.
>>
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> *Bruna Martins dos Santos *
>>
>> Global Campaigns Manager | Digital Action <http://digitalaction.co>
>>
>> German Chancellor Fellow 21' (Bundeskanzler-Stipendiatin) | Alexander
>> von Humboldt Foundation <https://www.humboldt-foundation.de/>
>>
>> Member | Coalizão Direitos na Rede <https://direitosnarede.org.br/>
>> Co-Coordinator | Internet Governance Caucus  <https://igcaucus.org/>
>>
>> Twitter: @boomartins <https://twitter.com/boomartins> // Skype:
>> bruna.martinsantos
>> Email: bruna.mrtns at gmail.com
>>
>>
>> Benjamin Akinmoyeje <benakin at gmail.com> schrieb am Mo. 8. Jan. 2024 um
>> 20:12:
>>
>>> Dear Bruna,
>>> Good day to you, and  Happy New Year.
>>> I had proposed 30 mins because we only had 75 mins and as it appears.
>>> The slot we got is also a shortfall from what your session requested,
>>>
>>> I believe the NCUC Issue forum can't be of use to the group as I had
>>> mentioned to Julf earlier.
>>>
>>>
>>> Kind regards,
>>> Benjamin
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 8, 2024 at 10:49 AM Bruna Martins dos Santos <
>>> bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Heya, Julf and Ben,
>>>>
>>>> Good to hear that NCUC is willing to accommodate this discussion, but
>>>> in order to move forward we would need to know how much time would NCUC be
>>>> willing to allocate to us. And since its not a simple discussion, I'd say
>>>> that 30 min or something around that won't really cut it as the session's
>>>> goal was to present the issue and have a proper discussion w/ community.
>>>>
>>>> Also, it's a NCSG and Global partners Digital initiative, as part of a
>>>> joint capacity building effort we would like to organize with our
>>>> community. You know pretty well how meeting's requests go around ICANN and
>>>> that its not really possible for "their team to get their session" since
>>>> requests for meetings and rooms need to come from community groups.
>>>>
>>>> In the hopes of helping, I have crafted this session description to
>>>> share with you. Apologies for not sharing it on friday, the deadline was a
>>>> bit short without any previous warning. Here's the link:
>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/10n0yAwRF4j9n4IuaVOuAkofFEsVyG-aiI8mWLnYt-bs/edit
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> Bruna
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Jan 7, 2024 at 8:21 PM Benjamin Akinmoyeje <benakin at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Dear Julf,
>>>>> Thank you for your email.
>>>>>
>>>>> My response was just to share that NCUC was willing to accommodate the
>>>>> Global Partners within our routine Issue Forum, however, if that is
>>>>> not possible. It may be a good idea for the team to get their session.
>>>>>
>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>> Benjamin
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Jan 7, 2024 at 4:42 PM Johan Helsingius <julf at julf.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear Benjamin,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As originally planned, the plenary session for ICANN79 was supposed to
>>>>>> be 1h30. Not sure how much shorter it can be made.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         Julf
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 05/01/2024 11:21, Benjamin Akinmoyeje wrote:
>>>>>> > Dear Julf and Bruna,
>>>>>> > Happy New Year, and I hope you enjoyed your holidays.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > We plan to discuss the session on Monday in our EC meeting, as
>>>>>> stated by
>>>>>> > Pedro.
>>>>>> > However, we need some quick inputs.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > We have 75 minutes reserved for the NCUC Issue Forum; how long
>>>>>> would the
>>>>>> > Internet Fragmentation briefing take?
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Please provide the time and succinct description for us to see how
>>>>>> we
>>>>>> > can merge the session. Andrea requires that we finalize the
>>>>>> description
>>>>>> > for the session today.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Kind regards,
>>>>>> > Benjamin
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > On Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 7:29 PM Bruna Martins dos Santos
>>>>>> > <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com <mailto:bruna.mrtns at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >     Hey all, yes exactly!
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >     We will still organize one or two webinars prior to ICANN79 and
>>>>>> then
>>>>>> >     had a plan for a  plenary session that wasn’t much attractive
>>>>>> in the
>>>>>> >     eyes of other chairs. Our proposal, therefore, would be to
>>>>>> transform
>>>>>> >     the plenary into the issues forum !
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >     Best,
>>>>>> >     Bruna
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >     */Bruna Martins dos Santos
>>>>>> >     /*
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >     Global Campaigns Manager | Digital Action <
>>>>>> http://digitalaction.co>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >     German Chancellor Fellow 21' (Bundeskanzler-Stipendiatin) |
>>>>>> >     Alexander von Humboldt Foundation <
>>>>>> https://www.humboldt-foundation.de/>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >     Member | Coalizão Direitos na Rede <
>>>>>> https://direitosnarede.org.br/>
>>>>>> >     Co-Coordinator | Internet Governance Caucus <
>>>>>> https://igcaucus.org/>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >     Twitter: @boomartins <https://twitter.com/boomartins> // Skype:
>>>>>> >     bruna.martinsantos
>>>>>> >     Email: bruna.mrtns at gmail.com <mailto:bruna.mrtns at gmail.com>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >     Johan Helsingius <julf at julf.com <mailto:julf at julf.com>>
>>>>>> schrieb am
>>>>>> >     Mi. 20. Dez. 2023 um 17:36:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >         As far as I know (but Bruna can clarify and correct me if I
>>>>>> am
>>>>>> >         wrong),
>>>>>> >         nothing has been nailed down yet, but the preliminary plan
>>>>>> was
>>>>>> >         to do
>>>>>> >         part 1 as a webinar before ICANN79, and then 2 at ICANN79.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >                  Julf
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >         On 20/12/2023 11:24, Pedro de Perdigão Lana wrote:
>>>>>> >          > Hi,
>>>>>> >          >
>>>>>> >          > I have a question here: Is the proposal about the Plenary
>>>>>> >         Session
>>>>>> >          > (Output 2) being modified to our Issues Forum, or they
>>>>>> are
>>>>>> >         doing Output
>>>>>> >          > 1 with us and, also during ICANN 79, another session on
>>>>>> Internet
>>>>>> >          > Fragmentation?
>>>>>> >          >
>>>>>> >          > Cordially,
>>>>>> >          >
>>>>>> >          > *Pedro de Perdigão Lana*
>>>>>> >          > Lawyer <https://www.sistemafiep.org.br/
>>>>>> >         <https://www.sistemafiep.org.br/>>, GEDAI/UFPR
>>>>>> >          > <https://www.gedai.com.br/ <https://www.gedai.com.br/>>
>>>>>> >         Researcher
>>>>>> >          > PhD Candidate (UFPR), LLM in Business Law (UCoimbra)
>>>>>> >          > Board Member @ CC Brasil <
>>>>>> https://br.creativecommons.net/
>>>>>> >         <https://br.creativecommons.net/>>, ISOC BR
>>>>>> >          > <https://isoc.org.br/ <https://isoc.org.br/>> and IODA
>>>>>> >         <https://ioda.org.br/ <https://ioda.org.br/>>
>>>>>> >          > This message is restricted to the sender and
>>>>>> recipient(s). If
>>>>>> >         received
>>>>>> >          > by mistake, please reply informing it.
>>>>>> >          >
>>>>>> >          >
>>>>>> >          > Em qua., 20 de dez. de 2023 às 11:57, Johan Helsingius
>>>>>> >         <julf at julf.com <mailto:julf at julf.com>
>>>>>> >          > <mailto:julf at julf.com <mailto:julf at julf.com>>> escreveu:
>>>>>> >          >
>>>>>> >          >
>>>>>> >          >
>>>>>> >          >
>>>>>> >          >     -------- Forwarded Message --------
>>>>>> >          >     Subject:        Re: [Ext] Re: Possible collaboration
>>>>>> -
>>>>>> >         Internet
>>>>>> >          >     fragmentation
>>>>>> >          >     briefing series
>>>>>> >          >     Date:   Tue, 28 Nov 2023 23:22:38 +0000
>>>>>> >          >     From:   Michaela Nakayama Shapiro
>>>>>> >         <michaela at gp-digital.org <mailto:michaela at gp-digital.org>
>>>>>> >          >     <mailto:michaela at gp-digital.org
>>>>>> >         <mailto:michaela at gp-digital.org>>>
>>>>>> >          >     To:     Bruna Martins dos Santos <
>>>>>> bruna.mrtns at gmail.com
>>>>>> >         <mailto:bruna.mrtns at gmail.com>
>>>>>> >          >     <mailto:bruna.mrtns at gmail.com
>>>>>> >         <mailto:bruna.mrtns at gmail.com>>>
>>>>>> >          >     CC:     Daniela Schnidrig <daniela at gp-digital.org
>>>>>> >         <mailto:daniela at gp-digital.org>
>>>>>> >          >     <mailto:daniela at gp-digital.org
>>>>>> >         <mailto:daniela at gp-digital.org>>>, Sheetal Kumar
>>>>>> >          >     <sheetal at gp-digital.org <mailto:
>>>>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org>
>>>>>> >         <mailto:sheetal at gp-digital.org
>>>>>> >         <mailto:sheetal at gp-digital.org>>>, Keerti
>>>>>> >          >     Rajagopalan <keerti at gp-digital.org
>>>>>> >         <mailto:keerti at gp-digital.org> <mailto:
>>>>>> keerti at gp-digital.org
>>>>>> >         <mailto:keerti at gp-digital.org>>>,
>>>>>> >          >     Johan Helsingius <julf at julf.com <mailto:
>>>>>> julf at julf.com>
>>>>>> >         <mailto:julf at julf.com <mailto:julf at julf.com>>>, Andrea
>>>>>> Glandon
>>>>>> >          >     <andrea.glandon at icann.org
>>>>>> >         <mailto:andrea.glandon at icann.org>
>>>>>> >         <mailto:andrea.glandon at icann.org
>>>>>> >         <mailto:andrea.glandon at icann.org>>>, Adam
>>>>>> >          >     Peake <adam.peake at icann.org <mailto:
>>>>>> adam.peake at icann.org>
>>>>>> >         <mailto:adam.peake at icann.org <mailto:adam.peake at icann.org
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >          >
>>>>>> >          >
>>>>>> >          >
>>>>>> >          >     Hi Bruna,
>>>>>> >          >
>>>>>> >          >     As discussed on our recent call, we have put
>>>>>> together a
>>>>>> >         more detailed
>>>>>> >          >     version of the concept note for the briefing series
>>>>>> >         (accessible here
>>>>>> >          >
>>>>>> >           <
>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/18M7cjAiGBhOHOEDR_KZzFE5Gr1XA4meRUBUxGo3oaug/edit?usp=sharing
>>>>>> <
>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/18M7cjAiGBhOHOEDR_KZzFE5Gr1XA4meRUBUxGo3oaug/edit?usp=sharing>
>>>>>> <
>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/18M7cjAiGBhOHOEDR_KZzFE5Gr1XA4meRUBUxGo3oaug/edit?usp=sharing
>>>>>> <
>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/18M7cjAiGBhOHOEDR_KZzFE5Gr1XA4meRUBUxGo3oaug/edit?usp=sharing
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >          >     and attached). The concept note now includes
>>>>>> additional
>>>>>> >         context on
>>>>>> >          >     internet fragmentation as it relates to ICANN's
>>>>>> mandate
>>>>>> >         on the basis of
>>>>>> >          >     recent trends and the 2022 plenary on the topic.
>>>>>> >          >
>>>>>> >          >     Based on our discussion and in light of the upcoming
>>>>>> >         production
>>>>>> >          >     planning
>>>>>> >          >     call, we have included a timeline for finalising the
>>>>>> >         concept note in a
>>>>>> >          >     table with roles and responsibilities across our
>>>>>> teams
>>>>>> >         (see p.6). We
>>>>>> >          >     wanted to ask whether it would be possible for you
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> >         the ICANN
>>>>>> >          >     team to
>>>>>> >          >     _review and share any feedback with us by EOW (1
>>>>>> >         December)?_ This would
>>>>>> >          >     be to ensure we have enough time to integrate any
>>>>>> >         feedback and
>>>>>> >          >     circulate
>>>>>> >          >     an updated draft to you by early next week to be
>>>>>> >         finalised by 6
>>>>>> >          >     December.
>>>>>> >          >
>>>>>> >          >     We also wanted to check whether there have been any
>>>>>> >         updates on the
>>>>>> >          >     deadlines for suggesting plenaries for San Juan?
>>>>>> >         Additionally, should
>>>>>> >          >     you have a sense of whether other parts of the
>>>>>> community
>>>>>> >         would be
>>>>>> >          >     willing to support a plenary like this that would be
>>>>>> very
>>>>>> >         helpful to
>>>>>> >          >     know for finalising the concept note.
>>>>>> >          >
>>>>>> >          >     Please let us know if you have any questions. Looking
>>>>>> >         forward to
>>>>>> >          >     hearing
>>>>>> >          >     from you soon!
>>>>>> >          >
>>>>>> >          >     Best,
>>>>>> >          >
>>>>>> >          >     Michaela
>>>>>> >          >
>>>>>> >          >     --
>>>>>> >          >     *
>>>>>> >          >     *
>>>>>> >          >     *Michaela Nakayama Shapiro*
>>>>>> >          >     Officer, Advocacy & Engagement | GLOBAL PARTNERS
>>>>>> DIGITAL
>>>>>> >          >     T: +44 (0)7742 758019 | Time zone: GMT+1 |
>>>>>> gp-digital.org
>>>>>> >         <http://gp-digital.org>
>>>>>> >          >     <http://gp-digital.org <http://gp-digital.org>>
>>>>>> >          >     <http://gp-digital.org/ <http://gp-digital.org/>
>>>>>> >         <http://gp-digital.org/ <http://gp-digital.org/>>>
>>>>>> >          >
>>>>>> >          >     ---
>>>>>> >          >
>>>>>> >          >
>>>>>> >          >
>>>>>> >          >
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>>>>>> >          >
>>>>>> >          >
>>>>>> >          >     On Tue, 21 Nov 2023 at 11:35, Johan Helsingius
>>>>>> >         <julf at julf.com <mailto:julf at julf.com>
>>>>>> >          >     <mailto:julf at julf.com <mailto:julf at julf.com>>
>>>>>> >          >     <mailto:julf at julf.com <mailto:julf at julf.com>
>>>>>> >         <mailto:julf at julf.com <mailto:julf at julf.com>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >          >
>>>>>> >          >           On 21/11/2023 11:55, Daniela Schnidrig wrote:
>>>>>> >          >
>>>>>> >          >            >   * We agreed that Bruna and Julf would
>>>>>> review
>>>>>> >         deadlines for
>>>>>> >          >           suggesting
>>>>>> >          >            >     a plenary session for San Juan and
>>>>>> circle
>>>>>> >         back this week to
>>>>>> >          >            >     ascertain whether it's feasible.
>>>>>> >          >
>>>>>> >          >           On that point, it might still be possible. The
>>>>>> >         plenary session
>>>>>> >          >     contents
>>>>>> >          >           will be discussed at the production planning
>>>>>> call
>>>>>> >         on December
>>>>>> >          >     6. For
>>>>>> >          >           that we should have a well-prepared proposal.
>>>>>> >          >
>>>>>> >          >                    Julf
>>>>>> >          >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> *Bruna Martins dos Santos *
>>>>
>>>> Global Campaigns Manager | Digital Action <http://digitalaction.co>
>>>>
>>>> German Chancellor Fellow 21' (Bundeskanzler-Stipendiatin) | Alexander
>>>> von Humboldt Foundation <https://www.humboldt-foundation.de/>
>>>>
>>>> Member | Coalizão Direitos na Rede <https://direitosnarede.org.br/>
>>>> Co-Coordinator | Internet Governance Caucus  <https://igcaucus.org/>
>>>>
>>>> Twitter: @boomartins <https://twitter.com/boomartins> // Skype:
>>>> bruna.martinsantos
>>>> Email: bruna.mrtns at gmail.com
>>>>
>>>

-- 

*Bruna Martins dos Santos *

Global Campaigns Manager | Digital Action <http://digitalaction.co>

German Chancellor Fellow 21' (Bundeskanzler-Stipendiatin) | Alexander von
Humboldt Foundation <https://www.humboldt-foundation.de/>

Member | Coalizão Direitos na Rede <https://direitosnarede.org.br/>
Co-Coordinator | Internet Governance Caucus  <https://igcaucus.org/>

Twitter: @boomartins <https://twitter.com/boomartins> // Skype:
bruna.martinsantos
Email: bruna.mrtns at gmail.com
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