[NCUC-EC] FY22 ABR - change of mind on consultation process?

[Raphael Beauregard-Lacroix]

Thanks all

Here is what I would suggest for the email:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/10px9kq2bE6ATXyJlZncRyVmWR6Ou-QoZWNVkrW8tLoM/edit?usp=sharing

Let me know by tomorrow (Thursday) night and I will submit it then.

On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 8:29 AM Ken Herman <ken at kherman.com> wrote:

> Raphael, thanks for the thoughtful consideration of the process and I
> agree with you, and Olga and Mili, that an email call is a more productive
> approach.
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> Ken
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> *From:* NCUC-EC <ncuc-ec-bounces at lists.ncuc.org> *On Behalf Of *Mili
> Semlani
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 13, 2021 12:45 AM
> *To:* Olga Kyryliuk <olga_kyryliuk at ukr.net>
> *Cc:* Exec. Comm <ncuc-ec at lists.ncuc.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [NCUC-EC] FY22 ABR - change of mind on consultation
> process?
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> Hi Raphael
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>   Yes I second this thought. It is something our membership is used
> to...email thread consultation. Also usually have a draft to look at and
> then suggest ideas that work as a better stimulant than staring at a blank
> form. If anything our chances of getting some opinions is surely higher via
> email and it will solve our transparency issue too.
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> In case we are flooded with ideas, I volunteer to sift through the thread
> and add a matrix to the ABR working doc.
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> With gratitude
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> Mili Semlani
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> Journalist & Engagement Manager
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> On Wed, 13 Jan 2021 at 01:02, Olga Kyryliuk <olga_kyryliuk at ukr.net> wrote:
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> Hi Raphael,
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> I support the suggestion to go ahead with the discussion via the mailing
> list. I presume the majority would go with "+1ing" but we might still get
> some fresh ideas. I'm a bit overwhelmed with tasks these days but I will
> definitely think of some concrete proposal for ABR for the next week. Once
> I have smth specific formulated in my mind, will directly share it with you.
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> Best,
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> Olga
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> *12 января 2021, 03:27:29, от "Raphael Beauregard-Lacroix" <**rbeauregardlacroix at gmail.com
> <rbeauregardlacroix at gmail.com>**>:*
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> Hi all,
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> I am having second thoughts about the Google form regarding the FY22 ABR.
> Here is what I ran into when trying to draft it:
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>    - It makes little sense to ask members what they would like to see
>    improved with our website or social media presence, outside of more content
>    and more frequent updates. Content is our job. We can certainly improve the
>    interface by working with web developers, and that can probably fit in an
>    ABR, but its not a consultation through a Google Form that is going to give
>    us the kind of input we would need at this point.
>    - Generally, people will not be encouraged to develop ideas on the
>    form, while they may be if they write it in an email thread. Specifically,
>    people may build upon what others say more easily. I think the form would
>    make this process more stunted. In the end, what we want from the
>    membership is ideas that will form into a concrete proposal and that will
>    fit in the request form. It's easier to structure a discussion in an email
>    thread.
>    - Finally, we can reasonably expect a low participation on that matter
>    overall. Hence, opening an email thread should not turn into something
>    unmanageable, anyway.
>
> I recognize this is a departure from what we have agreed earlier today,
> but as I tried doing it, it appeared to me it might not have been the best
> idea in the end.
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> I think I would rather start a thread on the list, laying out the rules
> and saying that we believe our web presence and promo materials could
> benefit from an ABR, without closing the door to any other proposal from
> the membership, as long as whoever proposes is willing to carry some weight
> in fleshing out their idea.
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> Let me know what you think, if possible by tomorrow night UTC, so that we
> can move forward with that.
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> Thank you and have a nice day,
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