[NCUC-EC] announcing ICANN63 travel slot?

[Bruna Martins dos Santos]

Agree with Lou in everything. Especially regarding the resignation, Renata,
I kindly ask you to reconsider this decision. There are only a few days
until the end of the mandate.

Em qua, 29 de ago de 2018 às 16:25, Louise Marie Hurel <
louise.marie.hsd at gmail.com> escreveu:

> Hi,
>
> Time is important, I agree, but I don't think the announcement transmits
> ECs position.
>
> Many members in the EU region could benefit from the CROP slot for any
> ICANN or ICANN related event. Even if it is the case of our funding being
> fragile, I truly don't think it justifies using applicants for ICANN63 slot
> for the CROP - in this case, Dina. As previously said, this is an NCUC CROP
> and I don't understand why her NPOC application should be considered for
> this. This also puts us in a position of having only one person from EU --
> which I don't think is fair to the active members in the region that might
> be interested.
>
> Renata, do we need to rush with this (and in this way)? Do we *really*
> lose the CROP slot if we don't allocate it now? I understand your concern
> but would kindly suggest double checking - because, honestly, I don't think
> this is the way to proceed. The NCUC Outreach strategy you shared also says
> "one or more events may be replaced due to extraordinary reasons - meeting
> cancellations or strategy readjustments".
>
> Also, the allocation of the second slot for ICANN63 is still unclear.
> There was no consensus, majority, not even enough votes to determine who
> should take the slot. The Chair can act in a certain direction, but there
> is no rationale as to why Ben's name was announced.
>
> Renata, I also don't think you should resign. We have managed to
> continuously work through our challenges throughout this past year, and
> hope we can continue to do so in this next couple of weeks that we have
> left.
>
> All the best,
>
> Louise Marie Hurel
>
> Cybersecurity Project Coordinator | Igarapé Institute
>
> London School of Economics (LSE) Media and Communications (Data and
> Society)
> Skype: louise.dias
> +44 (0) 7468 906327
> *l.h.dias at lse.ac.uk <l.h.dias at lse.ac.uk> *
> louise.marie.hsd at gmail.com
>
>
>
> On Wed, 29 Aug 2018 at 18:22, Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I don't think you understand the problem here.
>>
>> Not allocating CROP ICANN63 could mean even not having the other 2 next
>> CROPs
>>
>> We had our plan approved when it was questioned by Mondini
>>
>> This is highly fragile funding right now
>>
>> And yes, should the EC wish out of spite, not to allocate to ICANN63
>> slot, feel free.
>>
>> You'll be the ones responsible for also the next 2 and probably CROP
>> extinction in the next round.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Renata
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 2:17 PM, Michael Karanicolas
>> <mkaranicolas at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > I agree with this.
>> >
>> > On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 2:12 PM hfaiedh ines <hfaiedh.ines2 at gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Thanks.
>> >> So no CROP CALL for ICANN63 and no EC votes on CROP means no CROP
>> >> ALLOCATION FOR any candidate for ICANN63.
>> >> Next leadership will have two CROPs for ICANN64 and ICANN65, in
>> addition
>> >> to a CROP for an ICANN-related event like GDD etc.
>> >>
>> >> Again, nothing changes the facts.
>> >>
>> >> I kindly and respectfully also ask you to correct the public
>> announcement
>> >> you made.
>> >>
>> >> Le mercredi 29 août 2018, Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com> a
>> >> écrit :
>> >> > Calls can not be made with less than 14 business days - Operating
>> >> > Procedures
>> >> > Also already asked and answered
>> >> >
>> >> > On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 1:53 PM, hfaiedh ines <
>> hfaiedh.ines2 at gmail.com>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >> 1. Shahul had majority for the first NCUC Fellowship Slot
>> >> >> 2. Dina had only one vote on the second NCUC slot,
>> >> >> 3. We had only two ECs thinking out loud, not really voting and
>> >> >> oscilliating
>> >> >> between Ben and Dina for the second NCUC Slot
>> >> >> 4. We do not have any abstain from any EC on the record.
>> >> >> 5. We did not have an ICANN63 CROP Call separate from NCUC
>> Fellowship
>> >> >> so, no
>> >> >> call, no applicants, no slot to allocate and more importantly not a
>> >> >> single
>> >> >> EC vote on CROP ICANN63.So no CROP ALLOCATION FROM NCUC FOR ICANN63
>> >> >> 6. In addition to a procedural issue that myself and Bruna raised
>> >> >> concerning
>> >> >> the abscence of a call for CROP as other constituencies did, I was
>> >> >> happy to
>> >> >> learn from Mariam and Tapani that NPOC also has its 3 ICANN or ICANN
>> >> >> related
>> >> >> events CROP.
>> >> >> 7.Deadline to send a name is August 31st we are August 29th.
>> >> >> 8. The announcement made on ncuc and ncsg members mailing list wont
>> >> >> change
>> >> >> anything to the facts listed above.
>> >> >> 9. The public announcement on the travel smot allocations is
>> erronous
>> >> >> and
>> >> >> does not reflect EV decisions.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Le mercredi 29 août 2018, Bruna Martins dos Santos
>> >> >> <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> a
>> >> >> écrit :
>> >> >>> Hey all,
>> >> >>> The reason why the EC is a collegiate group is so that we make
>> >> >>> decisions
>> >> >>> collectively and provided the input from our peers. Whenever we
>> >> >>> approach
>> >> >>> debates assuming external factors such as "backchannel lobbying" we
>> >> >>> are not
>> >> >>> only demeaning the group but also our peers capability of making a
>> >> >>> decision
>> >> >>> on their own, and this should never be the case.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Since the beginning we have approached debates and tallys in a very
>> >> >>> respectful manner and also observing our bylaws. If in some cases
>> our
>> >> >>> EC
>> >> >>> members did not get the chance to respond to an vote or weigh in a
>> >> >>> subject,
>> >> >>> consensus calls for the majority's will - if we had followed that
>> MO
>> >> >>> Dina
>> >> >>> should have had the funding instead of the CROP given that Michael
>> had
>> >> >>> voted
>> >> >>> for her. What bothers me about this specific situation, other than
>> the
>> >> >>> personal attacks - a question suffered by some or all of us
>> previously
>> >> >>> and
>> >> >>> that we tried to address as a collegiate -, is that we gave a CROP
>> >> >>> without a
>> >> >>> call or even a mention of an allocation possibility that was
>> initially
>> >> >>> directed to NCUC without going evaluating any CROP outreach plans
>> from
>> >> >>> the
>> >> >>> selected member. Had we announced that and I am pretty sure of
>> other
>> >> >>> members
>> >> >>> that could have possibly applied for this specific slot - as I
>> >> >>> highlighted
>> >> >>> in previous emails.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> As to the CROP slot deadline, there was never a clear
>> understanding on
>> >> >>> whether or not filling slot today or lets say in november would
>> imply
>> >> >>> on
>> >> >>> NCUC losing it. What would be lost if there wasnt any announcements
>> >> >>> today
>> >> >>> was the opportunity of using this crop slot for the barcelona
>> meeting,
>> >> >>> and
>> >> >>> not the slot per se.
>> >> >>> I really wish we had more conversations about this specific issue
>> >> >>> instead
>> >> >>> of arriving at this situation we find ourselves at rn.
>> >> >>> Em qua, 29 de ago de 2018 às 13:40, Elsa S <elsa.saade at gmail.com>
>> >> >>> escreveu:
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> Hi Renata,
>> >> >>>> I have all the right to abstain when I sense that I would be
>> making a
>> >> >>>> decision without a proper base. I did not abstain this time
>> though, I
>> >> >>>> rather
>> >> >>>> waited, keepig an eye out for any deliberations that could affect
>> how
>> >> >>>> to
>> >> >>>> weigh in NPOC Chair’s recommendation for instance. I understand
>> there
>> >> >>>> was a
>> >> >>>> deadline, but I will never make a decision when I’m not entirely
>> sure
>> >> >>>> based
>> >> >>>> on what I would be making it. And I have the right as well as the
>> >> >>>> responsibility to do so.
>> >> >>>> As for conflict of interest, I still haven’t taken up the role of
>> >> >>>> GNSO
>> >> >>>> Councilor, as mentioned several times, I am still acting as NCUC
>> EC
>> >> >>>> AP until
>> >> >>>> Barcelona. This was made clear in so many different exchanges both
>> >> >>>> formally
>> >> >>>> and informally. Just FYI, I haven’t even been added to the GNSO
>> >> >>>> Council
>> >> >>>> mailing list as a councelor nor have I had handover, the only
>> >> >>>> exchange that
>> >> >>>> was made relating to this position was mitigating my presence in
>> >> >>>> Barcelona
>> >> >>>> for the start of my Councilor role. To have to justify this to
>> you,
>> >> >>>> is quite
>> >> >>>> surprising to me.
>> >> >>>> In any case, this thread is aimed to speak about a specific issue,
>> >> >>>> and
>> >> >>>> tackling the fact that on the list, it will seem like the EC
>> actually
>> >> >>>> made a
>> >> >>>> final clear cut decision about the allocations, when we actually
>> did
>> >> >>>> not
>> >> >>>> entirely do that. Let us refrain from opening side discussions
>> that I
>> >> >>>> would
>> >> >>>> tackle on a different thread.
>> >> >>>> Best,
>> >> >>>> Elsa
>> >> >>>> —
>> >> >>>> On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 12:28 PM Renata Aquino Ribeiro
>> >> >>>> <raquino at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> Elsa,
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> You abstained on your 2nd vote and the deadline passed.
>> >> >>>>> In fact, you always abstain on difficult decisions.
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> Right now, you are also omitting the conflict of interest of
>> being
>> >> >>>>> EC
>> >> >>>>> AP and GNSO Councillor, which I have asked you time and time
>> again
>> >> >>>>> privately to address on the main NCUC list.
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> Please do it so
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> Thanks
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 1:01 PM, Elsa S <elsa.saade at gmail.com>
>> >> >>>>> wrote:
>> >> >>>>> > Im honestly out of words as to the way this has unfolded. To
>> start
>> >> >>>>> > with the
>> >> >>>>> > exchange between Farzi and Renata where it was implied that we
>> >> >>>>> > were
>> >> >>>>> > being
>> >> >>>>> > manipulated into making a decision, to eventually making a
>> choice
>> >> >>>>> > for
>> >> >>>>> > the EC
>> >> >>>>> > due to the deadline. I do understand that there was a deadline
>> and
>> >> >>>>> > staff
>> >> >>>>> > would be out for a longer time than we can afford, however, I
>> >> >>>>> > personally saw
>> >> >>>>> > a lot of potential in other candidates that I would have voted
>> >> >>>>> > for, if
>> >> >>>>> > there
>> >> >>>>> > wasn’t so much confusion on how to weigh in, with the different
>> >> >>>>> > lobbying
>> >> >>>>> > from all sides. I’m not sure as to what kind of standard we
>> will
>> >> >>>>> > be
>> >> >>>>> > handing
>> >> >>>>> > over to the next EC. And it would be risky to just handover the
>> >> >>>>> > way we
>> >> >>>>> > dealt
>> >> >>>>> > with these allocations as is.
>> >> >>>>> >
>> >> >>>>> > Since the news is out, there isn’t much that can be done. But
>> for
>> >> >>>>> > the
>> >> >>>>> > record, I believe there should be more trust in the EC’s
>> >> >>>>> > capability of
>> >> >>>>> > making a decision on their own without fear of interferance or
>> >> >>>>> > ‘manipulation’, and there should be more of a comprehensive
>> >> >>>>> > strategy
>> >> >>>>> > when it
>> >> >>>>> > comes to choosing candidates. Where are the newcomers in this
>> >> >>>>> > batch of
>> >> >>>>> > chosen candidates for instance? What’s the outcome of having
>> them
>> >> >>>>> > at
>> >> >>>>> > ICANN63
>> >> >>>>> > for us all? Is it serving the aim of policy development or
>> not? Of
>> >> >>>>> > outreach?
>> >> >>>>> > Of welcoming new faces? Of proper funding allocation?
>> >> >>>>> >
>> >> >>>>> > My two cents here.
>> >> >>>>> >
>> >> >>>>> > E.
>> >> >>>>> > —
>> >> >>>>> >
>> >> >>>>> > On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 11:49 AM Renata Aquino Ribeiro
>> >> >>>>> > <raquino at gmail.com>
>> >> >>>>> > wrote:
>> >> >>>>> >>
>> >> >>>>> >> Dear EC
>> >> >>>>> >>
>> >> >>>>> >> I am sorry but you missed the deadline for announcement for 2
>> >> >>>>> >> days
>> >> >>>>> >> already.
>> >> >>>>> >> And yes, I did mention that we would very likely lose CROP
>> >> >>>>> >> ICANN63
>> >> >>>>> >> date if we don't use, as the recent reminder of Ozan implies.
>> >> >>>>> >>
>> >> >>>>> >> We are already losing 9000USD on website management funding
>> >> >>>>> >> because
>> >> >>>>> >> the EC did not come up with any contribution on this.
>> >> >>>>> >> We discovered we had this funding in August and it is very
>> likely
>> >> >>>>> >> the
>> >> >>>>> >> new Chair may not be able to tap into it.
>> >> >>>>> >> I haven't been able to address small suggestions to it.
>> >> >>>>> >>
>> >> >>>>> >> So we need to be more fiscally responsible to NCUC as well as
>> >> >>>>> >> respecting our Operating Procedures.
>> >> >>>>> >>
>> >> >>>>> >> There is no time for  a call for ICANN63, we were questioned 2
>> >> >>>>> >> days
>> >> >>>>> >> ago, our staff is out until 10Sept.
>> >> >>>>> >>
>> >> >>>>> >> I understand the pressure on you but squandering funding is
>> the
>> >> >>>>> >> worst
>> >> >>>>> >> you can do.
>> >> >>>>> >>
>> >> >>>>> >> Best,
>> >> >>>>> >>
>> >> >>>>> >> Renata
>> >> >>>>> >>
>> >> >>>>> >>
>> >> >>>>> >>
>> >> >>>>> >>
>> >> >>>>> >>
>> >> >>>>> >> On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 12:35 PM, Michael Karanicolas
>> >> >>>>> >> <mkaranicolas at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >>>>> >> > I also don't understand this course of action. As I
>> understand
>> >> >>>>> >> > it,
>> >> >>>>> >> > we
>> >> >>>>> >> > were
>> >> >>>>> >> > deliberating the travel slots - and all that remained was to
>> >> >>>>> >> > decide
>> >> >>>>> >> > between
>> >> >>>>> >> > Ben or Dina. Nobody has suggested allocating the CROP and,
>> as
>> >> >>>>> >> > Bruna
>> >> >>>>> >> > says, we
>> >> >>>>> >> > haven't done a proper call.
>> >> >>>>> >> >
>> >> >>>>> >> > I would suggest the Chair hold back on this, and we ask the
>> EC
>> >> >>>>> >> > folks who
>> >> >>>>> >> > voted for Ben OR Dina to just pick one or the other, with a
>> >> >>>>> >> > deadline of
>> >> >>>>> >> > COB
>> >> >>>>> >> > today.
>> >> >>>>> >> >
>> >> >>>>> >> >
>> >> >>>>> >> > On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 12:29 PM Renata Aquino Ribeiro
>> >> >>>>> >> > <raquino at gmail.com>
>> >> >>>>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >>>>> >> >>
>> >> >>>>> >> >> Dear Bruna
>> >> >>>>> >> >>
>> >> >>>>> >> >> Unfortunately I have time and time again given the EC the
>> >> >>>>> >> >> opportunity
>> >> >>>>> >> >> to participate on the CROP Outreach Plan, on the deadline
>> to
>> >> >>>>> >> >> ICANN63
>> >> >>>>> >> >> and on the weighing in on solutions.
>> >> >>>>> >> >> I'm sorry you oppose now but we are out of options
>> >> >>>>> >> >>
>> >> >>>>> >> >> Best,
>> >> >>>>> >> >>
>> >> >>>>> >> >> Renata
>> >> >>>>> >> >>
>> >> >>>>> >> >> On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 12:23 PM, Bruna Martins dos Santos
>> >> >>>>> >> >> <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >>>>> >> >> > We did not open a call for this one and it will raise
>> >> >>>>> >> >> > questions
>> >> >>>>> >> >> > in
>> >> >>>>> >> >> > our
>> >> >>>>> >> >> > membership as to why we gave it to Dina once this was
>> never
>> >> >>>>> >> >> > announced
>> >> >>>>> >> >> > to
>> >> >>>>> >> >> > the
>> >> >>>>> >> >> > larger list. And also, I dont believe that there is such
>> >> >>>>> >> >> > thing
>> >> >>>>> >> >> > as an
>> >> >>>>> >> >> > interpretation that if we dont use this crop NOW we are
>> to
>> >> >>>>> >> >> > lose,
>> >> >>>>> >> >> > given
>> >> >>>>> >> >> > that
>> >> >>>>> >> >> > the three slots shall be used until the end of FY19.
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >
>> >> >>>>> >> >> > Em qua, 29 de ago de 2018 às 12:18, Bruna Martins dos
>> Santos
>> >> >>>>> >> >> > <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> escreveu:
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >> Dear Renata,
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >> I am sorry but I oppose this idea. We were not
>> discussing
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >> CROP,
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >> we
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >> were
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >> discussing travel support.
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >> Em qua, 29 de ago de 2018 às 12:17, Renata Aquino
>> Ribeiro
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >> <raquino at gmail.com> escreveu:
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> Dear all
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> We should have announced this on the 27aug
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> We also have the CROP ICANN63 slot to an EU NCUC member
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> We just received a reminder today to use it, at the
>> risk
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> of
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> losing
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> it
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> I have read all the emails and I'll do the following
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> Travel Support - 1st slot
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> Shahul Hameed
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> Travel Support - 2nd slot
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> Benjamin Akinmoyeje
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> CROP ICANN63
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> I'll work with Dina Thomas on a NCUC CROP outreach plan
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> and
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> send it
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> to
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> the EC and to the CROP staff.
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> Best,
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> Renata
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 10:22 AM, Bruna Martins dos
>> Santos
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> > Dear All,
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> > I believe that according the advice provided by
>> Farzi we
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> > still
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> > have
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> > this
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> > year to decide whether or not we are using this
>> support
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> > exclusively
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> > to
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> > NCUC
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> > members or if we are opening the selection to NPOC
>> and
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> > NCSG
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> > as
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> > well
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> > -
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> > as we
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> > did in this one - but as this selection is still
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> > subjected
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> > to
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> > NCUC
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> > EC I
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> > believe that we should continue to perform by
>> selecting
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> > the
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> > funded
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> > members
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> > based on the quality of their outreach plans and
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> > application
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> > independently
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> > of the approach we seek to follow - opening calls or
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> > using
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> > them
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> > for
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> > NCUC
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> > only.
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> > In that sense, I am also between Dina and Ben.
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> > Dina provided a good application and is also
>> supported
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> > by
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> > NPOC
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> > Leadership,
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> > but I agree with Louise on the "her application might
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> > have
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> > benefitted
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> > from a
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> > more concrete outline of how she has been working
>> within
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> > PDPs -
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> > or
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> > tying PDP
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> > experience as an observer with her policy writing". I
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> > very
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> > much
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> > appreciate
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> > Dina's efforts regarding the Policy writing ad-hoc
>> group
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> > she
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> > tried
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> > to
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> > assemble, but I did not see it moving forward (and am
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> > not
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> > implying
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> > it
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> > is her
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> > fault either).
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> > On the other hand, we have Ben who we approved on a
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> > previous
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> > call
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> > and
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> > due to
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> > personal reasons was not able to attend the meeting.
>> Ben
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> > is
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> > has
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> > been
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> > involved in the RDS and the RPMs working group and
>> while
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> > we
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> > thought
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> > that the
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> > Policy meeting would be a moment for him to make
>> sense
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> > of
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> > what
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> > has
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> > been
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> > discussed in the calls, he was not able to attend.
>> If I
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> > am
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> > not
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> > mistaken,
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> > when we chatted about his situation in PR, and the
>> idea
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> > of
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> > re-considering
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> > him for the subsequent call was at the table.
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> > Given that I am very on the fence about the
>> selection of
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> > the
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> > second
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> > candidate, and that the two candidates are from EU
>> and
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> > AF, I
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> > would
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> > be
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> > more
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> > than happy to follow the advice from our EU and AF
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> > representatives.
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> > And please, lets decide soon on this matter, the
>> more we
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> > delay
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> > the
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> > decision
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> > the harder it becomes to our funded members to find
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> > tickets
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> > within
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> > the
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> > price
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> > range. Barcelona is in less than two months!
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> > best,
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> > B.
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> > Em ter, 28 de ago de 2018 às 10:15, Louise Marie
>> Hurel
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> > <louise.marie.hsd at gmail.com> escreveu:
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> Dear all,
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> First, I'd like to kindly thank Joan for her inputs.
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> Second, I cast my first vote to Shahul. As my
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> colleagues
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> have
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> already
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> highlighted, he has been actively engaging in policy
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> writing and
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> shows
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> promising development within our community -- he has
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> shown
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> consistent
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> commitment and dedication. His application was
>> clear,
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> consistent
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> and
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> grounded. I think he would also benefit greatly from
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> the
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> opportunity
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> to
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> participate on-site and hopefully lay deeper grounds
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> for
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> further
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> engagement
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> within the NCUC.
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> Quite frankly, my second vote goes to either
>> Benjamin
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> or
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> Dina.
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> Let
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> me
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> take
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> a few lines to explain why - given NPOC Chair's
>> support
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> for
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> Dina. I
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> have had
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> the opportunity to work with her in the past two
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> meetings
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> at the
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> onboarding
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> program. She is committed and has engaged in
>> drafting
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> comments -
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> a
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> strong
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> applicant. Although her application might have
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> benefitted
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> from a
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> more
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> concrete outline of how she has been working within
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> PDPs -
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> or
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> tying
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> PDP
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> experience as an observer with her policy writing (a
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> general way
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> of
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> gaining
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> insights and perspectives from other stakeholder
>> groups
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> and/or
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> maturity in
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> navigating ICANN). On the other hand, I also think
>> that
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> we
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> need
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> to
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> give
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> space for new applicants, and that includes giving
>> Ben
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> an
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> opportunity,
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> as he
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> has, unfortunately, not been able to attend the last
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> meeting due
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> to
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> visa
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> issues. He also submitted a good application,
>> clearly
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> demonstrating
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> consistency in participating and following two PDPs
>> and
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> looking
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> for
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> mentorship. My only question here is that while he
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> states
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> that
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> he
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> would do
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> his best to "keep along with the ICANN63 sessions
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> especially
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> those
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> that
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> concern the NCUC and NCSG" he didn't explain how the
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> slot
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> would
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> also
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> play
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> into his volunteer work on NPOC's PC, in
>> particular. I
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> think
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> that
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> this
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> might
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> have been an opportunity for him to provide a more
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> robust
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> account
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> of a
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> grounded plan for engagement in this next meeting.
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> As observed, I outlined both the pros and cons of
>> their
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> applications.
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> I
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> don't think there's a clear shot here and thus
>> count on
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> my
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> peers
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> to
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> either
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> provide further insights to their decision that
>> might
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> aid
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> in the
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> allocation
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> of this slot or, rely on a majority of voters for
>> one
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> or
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> the
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> other.
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> Hope this provides a fair account of my decision.
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> Kind regards,
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> Louise Marie Hurel
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> Cybersecurity Project Coordinator | Igarapé
>> Institute
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> London School of Economics (LSE) Media and
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> Communications
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> (Data
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> and
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> Society)
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> Skype: louise.dias
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> +44 (0) 7468 906327
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> l.h.dias at lse.ac.uk
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> louise.marie.hsd at gmail.com
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> On Mon, 27 Aug 2018 at 18:43, Renata Aquino Ribeiro
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> <raquino at gmail.com>
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> wrote:
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>>
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> Thank you Joan for your clarification.
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>>
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 2:41 PM, Joan Kerr
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> <joankerr at fbsc.org>
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> wrote:
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > Hi Renata, All
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > NPOC is supporting Dina for a number of reasons.
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > She
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > has
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > been
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > working
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > hard
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > with the newly formed PC and has a lot of
>> experience
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > in
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > policy
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > and
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > processes.  NPOC feels Dina is the right choice
>> and
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > will
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > be
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > instrumental in
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > assisting with the policy going forward.
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > Thanks,
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 1:23 PM Renata Aquino
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > Ribeiro
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > <raquino at gmail.com>
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > wrote:
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >>
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> Dear Joan
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >>
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> Please see inquiry from one of the NCUC EC reps.
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >>
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 1:47 PM, Bruna Martins
>> dos
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> Santos
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > Dear all,
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > My first vote went to Shahul, and as I am
>> still
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > to
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > decide
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > who
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > will
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > get
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > the
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > second slot Im more prone to vote either o
>> Ben or
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > Farell,
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > who
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > is
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > also a
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > NPOC
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > member I believe.
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > Renata, do you think that would be the case
>> for
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > asking
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > Joan
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > whether
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > or
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > not
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > she'd recommend a second name since Remmy
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > withdrew
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > his
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > candidacy
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > ?
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > best,
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > B.
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > Em dom, 26 de ago de 2018 às 21:59, Renata
>> Aquino
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > Ribeiro
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > <raquino at gmail.com> escreveu:
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >>
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> Dear EC
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >>
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> It is time to announce the ICANN63 travel
>> slots.
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> Please decide soon.
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >>
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> Thanks
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >>
>> _______________________________________________
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> NCUC-EC mailing list
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> NCUC-EC at lists.ncuc.org
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >>
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >>
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >>
>> https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-ec
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > --
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > Bruna Martins dos Santos
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > @boomartins
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > --
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > Joan Kerr,
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > Entrepreneur, Artist, Humanitarian
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > T: +1 (416) 907-0783
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > Skype: joankerr_fbsc
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > fbsc.org, www.fbsc.eco
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > Chair: Victory Garden Leadership Implementation
>> Team
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > Chair, Sustainable Agriculture, Global
>> Humanitarian
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > Technology
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > Conference
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > Chair: IEEE Smart Villages Project, Sustainable
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > Agriculture
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > Working
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > Group
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > Chair: ICANN Not for Profit Operational Concerns
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > Constituency
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > Recipient of the United Nations Civil Society
>> Award
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > (WSIS
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > 2004)
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > Recipient, Region of Durham Community Partnership
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > Award
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > Advisor, IEEE Humanitarian Initiatives Committee
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > Advisor, Climate Smart Agriculture Youth Network,
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > (CSAYN)
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > Global
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > Coordination Unit
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> _______________________________________________
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> NCUC-EC mailing list
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> NCUC-EC at lists.ncuc.org
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>>
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>>
>> https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-ec
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> NCUC-EC mailing list
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> NCUC-EC at lists.ncuc.org
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>
>> https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-ec
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> > --
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> > Bruna Martins dos Santos
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> > Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>> > @boomartins
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >> --
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >> Bruna Martins dos Santos
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >>
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >> Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >> @boomartins
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >
>> >> >>>>> >> >> > --
>> >> >>>>> >> >> > Bruna Martins dos Santos
>> >> >>>>> >> >> >
>> >> >>>>> >> >> > Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
>> >> >>>>> >> >> > @boomartins
>> >> >>>>> >> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> >>>>> >> >> NCUC-EC mailing list
>> >> >>>>> >> >> NCUC-EC at lists.ncuc.org
>> >> >>>>> >> >> https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-ec
>> >> >>>>> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> >>>>> >> NCUC-EC mailing list
>> >> >>>>> >> NCUC-EC at lists.ncuc.org
>> >> >>>>> >> https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-ec
>> >> >>>>> >
>> >> >>>>> > --
>> >> >>>>> > --
>> >> >>>>> >
>> >> >>>>> > Elsa Saade
>> >> >>>>> > Consultant
>> >> >>>>> > Gulf Centre for Human Rights
>> >> >>>>> > Twitter: @Elsa_Saade
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> --
>> >> >>>> --
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> Elsa Saade
>> >> >>>> Consultant
>> >> >>>> Gulf Centre for Human Rights
>> >> >>>> Twitter: @Elsa_Saade
>> >> >>>> _______________________________________________
>> >> >>>> NCUC-EC mailing list
>> >> >>>> NCUC-EC at lists.ncuc.org
>> >> >>>> https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-ec
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> --
>> >> >>> Bruna Martins dos Santos
>> >> >>> Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
>> >> >>> @boomartins
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> >> NCUC-EC mailing list
>> >> >> NCUC-EC at lists.ncuc.org
>> >> >> https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-ec
>> >> >>
>> >> > _______________________________________________
>> >> NCUC-EC mailing list
>> >> NCUC-EC at lists.ncuc.org
>> >> https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-ec
>> _______________________________________________
>> NCUC-EC mailing list
>> NCUC-EC at lists.ncuc.org
>> https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-ec
>>
> _______________________________________________
> NCUC-EC mailing list
> NCUC-EC at lists.ncuc.org
> https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-ec
>


-- 
*Bruna Martins dos Santos *

Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
@boomartins
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