[NCUC-EC] announcing ICANN63 travel slot?

[Bruna Martins dos Santos]

Hey, Ines,

I have the same interpretation, but to be safe I took the liberty of
consulting Ozan again on this matter.

best,
bruna

Em qua, 29 de ago de 2018 às 14:12, hfaiedh ines <hfaiedh.ines2 at gmail.com>
escreveu:

> Thanks.
> So no CROP CALL for ICANN63 and no EC votes on CROP means no CROP
> ALLOCATION FOR any candidate for ICANN63.
> Next leadership will have two CROPs for ICANN64 and ICANN65, in addition
> to a CROP for an ICANN-related event like GDD etc.
>
> Again, nothing changes the facts.
>
> I kindly and respectfully also ask you to correct the public announcement
> you made.
>
> Le mercredi 29 août 2018, Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com> a
> écrit :
> > Calls can not be made with less than 14 business days - Operating
> Procedures
> > Also already asked and answered
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 1:53 PM, hfaiedh ines <hfaiedh.ines2 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> 1. Shahul had majority for the first NCUC Fellowship Slot
> >> 2. Dina had only one vote on the second NCUC slot,
> >> 3. We had only two ECs thinking out loud, not really voting and
> oscilliating
> >> between Ben and Dina for the second NCUC Slot
> >> 4. We do not have any abstain from any EC on the record.
> >> 5. We did not have an ICANN63 CROP Call separate from NCUC Fellowship
> so, no
> >> call, no applicants, no slot to allocate and more importantly not a
> single
> >> EC vote on CROP ICANN63.So no CROP ALLOCATION FROM NCUC FOR ICANN63
> >> 6. In addition to a procedural issue that myself and Bruna raised
> concerning
> >> the abscence of a call for CROP as other constituencies did, I was
> happy to
> >> learn from Mariam and Tapani that NPOC also has its 3 ICANN or ICANN
> related
> >> events CROP.
> >> 7.Deadline to send a name is August 31st we are August 29th.
> >> 8. The announcement made on ncuc and ncsg members mailing list wont
> change
> >> anything to the facts listed above.
> >> 9. The public announcement on the travel smot allocations is erronous
> and
> >> does not reflect EV decisions.
> >>
> >>
> >> Le mercredi 29 août 2018, Bruna Martins dos Santos <
> bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> a
> >> écrit :
> >>> Hey all,
> >>> The reason why the EC is a collegiate group is so that we make
> decisions
> >>> collectively and provided the input from our peers. Whenever we
> approach
> >>> debates assuming external factors such as "backchannel lobbying" we
> are not
> >>> only demeaning the group but also our peers capability of making a
> decision
> >>> on their own, and this should never be the case.
> >>>
> >>> Since the beginning we have approached debates and tallys in a very
> >>> respectful manner and also observing our bylaws. If in some cases our
> EC
> >>> members did not get the chance to respond to an vote or weigh in a
> subject,
> >>> consensus calls for the majority's will - if we had followed that MO
> Dina
> >>> should have had the funding instead of the CROP given that Michael had
> voted
> >>> for her. What bothers me about this specific situation, other than the
> >>> personal attacks - a question suffered by some or all of us previously
> and
> >>> that we tried to address as a collegiate -, is that we gave a CROP
> without a
> >>> call or even a mention of an allocation possibility that was initially
> >>> directed to NCUC without going evaluating any CROP outreach plans from
> the
> >>> selected member. Had we announced that and I am pretty sure of other
> members
> >>> that could have possibly applied for this specific slot - as I
> highlighted
> >>> in previous emails.
> >>>
> >>> As to the CROP slot deadline, there was never a clear understanding on
> >>> whether or not filling slot today or lets say in november would imply
> on
> >>> NCUC losing it. What would be lost if there wasnt any announcements
> today
> >>> was the opportunity of using this crop slot for the barcelona meeting,
> and
> >>> not the slot per se.
> >>> I really wish we had more conversations about this specific issue
> instead
> >>> of arriving at this situation we find ourselves at rn.
> >>> Em qua, 29 de ago de 2018 às 13:40, Elsa S <elsa.saade at gmail.com>
> >>> escreveu:
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi Renata,
> >>>> I have all the right to abstain when I sense that I would be making a
> >>>> decision without a proper base. I did not abstain this time though, I
> rather
> >>>> waited, keepig an eye out for any deliberations that could affect how
> to
> >>>> weigh in NPOC Chair’s recommendation for instance. I understand there
> was a
> >>>> deadline, but I will never make a decision when I’m not entirely sure
> based
> >>>> on what I would be making it. And I have the right as well as the
> >>>> responsibility to do so.
> >>>> As for conflict of interest, I still haven’t taken up the role of GNSO
> >>>> Councilor, as mentioned several times, I am still acting as NCUC EC
> AP until
> >>>> Barcelona. This was made clear in so many different exchanges both
> formally
> >>>> and informally. Just FYI, I haven’t even been added to the GNSO
> Council
> >>>> mailing list as a councelor nor have I had handover, the only
> exchange that
> >>>> was made relating to this position was mitigating my presence in
> Barcelona
> >>>> for the start of my Councilor role. To have to justify this to you,
> is quite
> >>>> surprising to me.
> >>>> In any case, this thread is aimed to speak about a specific issue, and
> >>>> tackling the fact that on the list, it will seem like the EC actually
> made a
> >>>> final clear cut decision about the allocations, when we actually did
> not
> >>>> entirely do that. Let us refrain from opening side discussions that I
> would
> >>>> tackle on a different thread.
> >>>> Best,
> >>>> Elsa
> >>>> —
> >>>> On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 12:28 PM Renata Aquino Ribeiro
> >>>> <raquino at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Elsa,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> You abstained on your 2nd vote and the deadline passed.
> >>>>> In fact, you always abstain on difficult decisions.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Right now, you are also omitting the conflict of interest of being EC
> >>>>> AP and GNSO Councillor, which I have asked you time and time again
> >>>>> privately to address on the main NCUC list.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Please do it so
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 1:01 PM, Elsa S <elsa.saade at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>> > Im honestly out of words as to the way this has unfolded. To start
> >>>>> > with the
> >>>>> > exchange between Farzi and Renata where it was implied that we were
> >>>>> > being
> >>>>> > manipulated into making a decision, to eventually making a choice
> for
> >>>>> > the EC
> >>>>> > due to the deadline. I do understand that there was a deadline and
> >>>>> > staff
> >>>>> > would be out for a longer time than we can afford, however, I
> >>>>> > personally saw
> >>>>> > a lot of potential in other candidates that I would have voted
> for, if
> >>>>> > there
> >>>>> > wasn’t so much confusion on how to weigh in, with the different
> >>>>> > lobbying
> >>>>> > from all sides. I’m not sure as to what kind of standard we will be
> >>>>> > handing
> >>>>> > over to the next EC. And it would be risky to just handover the
> way we
> >>>>> > dealt
> >>>>> > with these allocations as is.
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > Since the news is out, there isn’t much that can be done. But for
> the
> >>>>> > record, I believe there should be more trust in the EC’s
> capability of
> >>>>> > making a decision on their own without fear of interferance or
> >>>>> > ‘manipulation’, and there should be more of a comprehensive
> strategy
> >>>>> > when it
> >>>>> > comes to choosing candidates. Where are the newcomers in this
> batch of
> >>>>> > chosen candidates for instance? What’s the outcome of having them
> at
> >>>>> > ICANN63
> >>>>> > for us all? Is it serving the aim of policy development or not? Of
> >>>>> > outreach?
> >>>>> > Of welcoming new faces? Of proper funding allocation?
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > My two cents here.
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > E.
> >>>>> > —
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 11:49 AM Renata Aquino Ribeiro
> >>>>> > <raquino at gmail.com>
> >>>>> > wrote:
> >>>>> >>
> >>>>> >> Dear EC
> >>>>> >>
> >>>>> >> I am sorry but you missed the deadline for announcement for 2 days
> >>>>> >> already.
> >>>>> >> And yes, I did mention that we would very likely lose CROP ICANN63
> >>>>> >> date if we don't use, as the recent reminder of Ozan implies.
> >>>>> >>
> >>>>> >> We are already losing 9000USD on website management funding
> because
> >>>>> >> the EC did not come up with any contribution on this.
> >>>>> >> We discovered we had this funding in August and it is very likely
> the
> >>>>> >> new Chair may not be able to tap into it.
> >>>>> >> I haven't been able to address small suggestions to it.
> >>>>> >>
> >>>>> >> So we need to be more fiscally responsible to NCUC as well as
> >>>>> >> respecting our Operating Procedures.
> >>>>> >>
> >>>>> >> There is no time for  a call for ICANN63, we were questioned 2
> days
> >>>>> >> ago, our staff is out until 10Sept.
> >>>>> >>
> >>>>> >> I understand the pressure on you but squandering funding is the
> worst
> >>>>> >> you can do.
> >>>>> >>
> >>>>> >> Best,
> >>>>> >>
> >>>>> >> Renata
> >>>>> >>
> >>>>> >>
> >>>>> >>
> >>>>> >>
> >>>>> >>
> >>>>> >> On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 12:35 PM, Michael Karanicolas
> >>>>> >> <mkaranicolas at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>> >> > I also don't understand this course of action. As I understand
> it,
> >>>>> >> > we
> >>>>> >> > were
> >>>>> >> > deliberating the travel slots - and all that remained was to
> decide
> >>>>> >> > between
> >>>>> >> > Ben or Dina. Nobody has suggested allocating the CROP and, as
> Bruna
> >>>>> >> > says, we
> >>>>> >> > haven't done a proper call.
> >>>>> >> >
> >>>>> >> > I would suggest the Chair hold back on this, and we ask the EC
> >>>>> >> > folks who
> >>>>> >> > voted for Ben OR Dina to just pick one or the other, with a
> >>>>> >> > deadline of
> >>>>> >> > COB
> >>>>> >> > today.
> >>>>> >> >
> >>>>> >> >
> >>>>> >> > On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 12:29 PM Renata Aquino Ribeiro
> >>>>> >> > <raquino at gmail.com>
> >>>>> >> > wrote:
> >>>>> >> >>
> >>>>> >> >> Dear Bruna
> >>>>> >> >>
> >>>>> >> >> Unfortunately I have time and time again given the EC the
> >>>>> >> >> opportunity
> >>>>> >> >> to participate on the CROP Outreach Plan, on the deadline to
> >>>>> >> >> ICANN63
> >>>>> >> >> and on the weighing in on solutions.
> >>>>> >> >> I'm sorry you oppose now but we are out of options
> >>>>> >> >>
> >>>>> >> >> Best,
> >>>>> >> >>
> >>>>> >> >> Renata
> >>>>> >> >>
> >>>>> >> >> On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 12:23 PM, Bruna Martins dos Santos
> >>>>> >> >> <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>> >> >> > We did not open a call for this one and it will raise
> questions
> >>>>> >> >> > in
> >>>>> >> >> > our
> >>>>> >> >> > membership as to why we gave it to Dina once this was never
> >>>>> >> >> > announced
> >>>>> >> >> > to
> >>>>> >> >> > the
> >>>>> >> >> > larger list. And also, I dont believe that there is such
> thing
> >>>>> >> >> > as an
> >>>>> >> >> > interpretation that if we dont use this crop NOW we are to
> lose,
> >>>>> >> >> > given
> >>>>> >> >> > that
> >>>>> >> >> > the three slots shall be used until the end of FY19.
> >>>>> >> >> >
> >>>>> >> >> > Em qua, 29 de ago de 2018 às 12:18, Bruna Martins dos Santos
> >>>>> >> >> > <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> escreveu:
> >>>>> >> >> >>
> >>>>> >> >> >> Dear Renata,
> >>>>> >> >> >>
> >>>>> >> >> >> I am sorry but I oppose this idea. We were not discussing
> CROP,
> >>>>> >> >> >> we
> >>>>> >> >> >> were
> >>>>> >> >> >> discussing travel support.
> >>>>> >> >> >>
> >>>>> >> >> >>
> >>>>> >> >> >>
> >>>>> >> >> >> Em qua, 29 de ago de 2018 às 12:17, Renata Aquino Ribeiro
> >>>>> >> >> >> <raquino at gmail.com> escreveu:
> >>>>> >> >> >>>
> >>>>> >> >> >>> Dear all
> >>>>> >> >> >>>
> >>>>> >> >> >>> We should have announced this on the 27aug
> >>>>> >> >> >>>
> >>>>> >> >> >>> We also have the CROP ICANN63 slot to an EU NCUC member
> >>>>> >> >> >>>
> >>>>> >> >> >>> We just received a reminder today to use it, at the risk of
> >>>>> >> >> >>> losing
> >>>>> >> >> >>> it
> >>>>> >> >> >>>
> >>>>> >> >> >>> I have read all the emails and I'll do the following
> >>>>> >> >> >>>
> >>>>> >> >> >>> Travel Support - 1st slot
> >>>>> >> >> >>> Shahul Hameed
> >>>>> >> >> >>>
> >>>>> >> >> >>> Travel Support - 2nd slot
> >>>>> >> >> >>> Benjamin Akinmoyeje
> >>>>> >> >> >>>
> >>>>> >> >> >>> CROP ICANN63
> >>>>> >> >> >>> I'll work with Dina Thomas on a NCUC CROP outreach plan and
> >>>>> >> >> >>> send it
> >>>>> >> >> >>> to
> >>>>> >> >> >>> the EC and to the CROP staff.
> >>>>> >> >> >>>
> >>>>> >> >> >>> Best,
> >>>>> >> >> >>>
> >>>>> >> >> >>> Renata
> >>>>> >> >> >>>
> >>>>> >> >> >>>
> >>>>> >> >> >>>
> >>>>> >> >> >>>
> >>>>> >> >> >>>
> >>>>> >> >> >>> On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 10:22 AM, Bruna Martins dos Santos
> >>>>> >> >> >>> <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>> >> >> >>> > Dear All,
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >
> >>>>> >> >> >>> > I believe that according the advice provided by Farzi we
> >>>>> >> >> >>> > still
> >>>>> >> >> >>> > have
> >>>>> >> >> >>> > this
> >>>>> >> >> >>> > year to decide whether or not we are using this support
> >>>>> >> >> >>> > exclusively
> >>>>> >> >> >>> > to
> >>>>> >> >> >>> > NCUC
> >>>>> >> >> >>> > members or if we are opening the selection to NPOC and
> NCSG
> >>>>> >> >> >>> > as
> >>>>> >> >> >>> > well
> >>>>> >> >> >>> > -
> >>>>> >> >> >>> > as we
> >>>>> >> >> >>> > did in this one - but as this selection is still
> subjected
> >>>>> >> >> >>> > to
> >>>>> >> >> >>> > NCUC
> >>>>> >> >> >>> > EC I
> >>>>> >> >> >>> > believe that we should continue to perform by selecting
> the
> >>>>> >> >> >>> > funded
> >>>>> >> >> >>> > members
> >>>>> >> >> >>> > based on the quality of their outreach plans and
> application
> >>>>> >> >> >>> > independently
> >>>>> >> >> >>> > of the approach we seek to follow - opening calls or
> using
> >>>>> >> >> >>> > them
> >>>>> >> >> >>> > for
> >>>>> >> >> >>> > NCUC
> >>>>> >> >> >>> > only.
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >
> >>>>> >> >> >>> > In that sense, I am also between Dina and Ben.
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >
> >>>>> >> >> >>> > Dina provided a good application and is also supported by
> >>>>> >> >> >>> > NPOC
> >>>>> >> >> >>> > Leadership,
> >>>>> >> >> >>> > but I agree with Louise on the "her application might
> have
> >>>>> >> >> >>> > benefitted
> >>>>> >> >> >>> > from a
> >>>>> >> >> >>> > more concrete outline of how she has been working within
> >>>>> >> >> >>> > PDPs -
> >>>>> >> >> >>> > or
> >>>>> >> >> >>> > tying PDP
> >>>>> >> >> >>> > experience as an observer with her policy writing". I
> very
> >>>>> >> >> >>> > much
> >>>>> >> >> >>> > appreciate
> >>>>> >> >> >>> > Dina's efforts regarding the Policy writing ad-hoc group
> she
> >>>>> >> >> >>> > tried
> >>>>> >> >> >>> > to
> >>>>> >> >> >>> > assemble, but I did not see it moving forward (and am not
> >>>>> >> >> >>> > implying
> >>>>> >> >> >>> > it
> >>>>> >> >> >>> > is her
> >>>>> >> >> >>> > fault either).
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >
> >>>>> >> >> >>> > On the other hand, we have Ben who we approved on a
> previous
> >>>>> >> >> >>> > call
> >>>>> >> >> >>> > and
> >>>>> >> >> >>> > due to
> >>>>> >> >> >>> > personal reasons was not able to attend the meeting. Ben
> is
> >>>>> >> >> >>> > has
> >>>>> >> >> >>> > been
> >>>>> >> >> >>> > involved in the RDS and the RPMs working group and while
> we
> >>>>> >> >> >>> > thought
> >>>>> >> >> >>> > that the
> >>>>> >> >> >>> > Policy meeting would be a moment for him to make sense of
> >>>>> >> >> >>> > what
> >>>>> >> >> >>> > has
> >>>>> >> >> >>> > been
> >>>>> >> >> >>> > discussed in the calls, he was not able to attend. If I
> am
> >>>>> >> >> >>> > not
> >>>>> >> >> >>> > mistaken,
> >>>>> >> >> >>> > when we chatted about his situation in PR, and the idea
> of
> >>>>> >> >> >>> > re-considering
> >>>>> >> >> >>> > him for the subsequent call was at the table.
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >
> >>>>> >> >> >>> > Given that I am very on the fence about the selection of
> the
> >>>>> >> >> >>> > second
> >>>>> >> >> >>> > candidate, and that the two candidates are from EU and
> AF, I
> >>>>> >> >> >>> > would
> >>>>> >> >> >>> > be
> >>>>> >> >> >>> > more
> >>>>> >> >> >>> > than happy to follow the advice from our EU and AF
> >>>>> >> >> >>> > representatives.
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >
> >>>>> >> >> >>> > And please, lets decide soon on this matter, the more we
> >>>>> >> >> >>> > delay
> >>>>> >> >> >>> > the
> >>>>> >> >> >>> > decision
> >>>>> >> >> >>> > the harder it becomes to our funded members to find
> tickets
> >>>>> >> >> >>> > within
> >>>>> >> >> >>> > the
> >>>>> >> >> >>> > price
> >>>>> >> >> >>> > range. Barcelona is in less than two months!
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >
> >>>>> >> >> >>> > best,
> >>>>> >> >> >>> > B.
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >
> >>>>> >> >> >>> > Em ter, 28 de ago de 2018 às 10:15, Louise Marie Hurel
> >>>>> >> >> >>> > <louise.marie.hsd at gmail.com> escreveu:
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> Dear all,
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> First, I'd like to kindly thank Joan for her inputs.
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> Second, I cast my first vote to Shahul. As my colleagues
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> have
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> already
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> highlighted, he has been actively engaging in policy
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> writing and
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> shows
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> promising development within our community -- he has
> shown
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> consistent
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> commitment and dedication. His application was clear,
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> consistent
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> and
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> grounded. I think he would also benefit greatly from the
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> opportunity
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> to
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> participate on-site and hopefully lay deeper grounds for
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> further
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> engagement
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> within the NCUC.
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> Quite frankly, my second vote goes to either Benjamin or
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> Dina.
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> Let
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> me
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> take
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> a few lines to explain why - given NPOC Chair's support
> for
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> Dina. I
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> have had
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> the opportunity to work with her in the past two
> meetings
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> at the
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> onboarding
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> program. She is committed and has engaged in drafting
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> comments -
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> a
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> strong
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> applicant. Although her application might have
> benefitted
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> from a
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> more
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> concrete outline of how she has been working within
> PDPs -
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> or
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> tying
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> PDP
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> experience as an observer with her policy writing (a
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> general way
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> of
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> gaining
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> insights and perspectives from other stakeholder groups
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> and/or
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> maturity in
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> navigating ICANN). On the other hand, I also think that
> we
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> need
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> to
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> give
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> space for new applicants, and that includes giving Ben
> an
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> opportunity,
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> as he
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> has, unfortunately, not been able to attend the last
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> meeting due
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> to
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> visa
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> issues. He also submitted a good application, clearly
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> demonstrating
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> consistency in participating and following two PDPs and
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> looking
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> for
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> mentorship. My only question here is that while he
> states
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> that
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> he
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> would do
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> his best to "keep along with the ICANN63 sessions
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> especially
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> those
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> that
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> concern the NCUC and NCSG" he didn't explain how the
> slot
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> would
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> also
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> play
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> into his volunteer work on NPOC's PC, in particular. I
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> think
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> that
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> this
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> might
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> have been an opportunity for him to provide a more
> robust
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> account
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> of a
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> grounded plan for engagement in this next meeting.
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> As observed, I outlined both the pros and cons of their
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> applications.
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> I
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> don't think there's a clear shot here and thus count on
> my
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> peers
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> to
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> either
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> provide further insights to their decision that might
> aid
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> in the
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> allocation
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> of this slot or, rely on a majority of voters for one or
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> the
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> other.
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> Hope this provides a fair account of my decision.
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> Kind regards,
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> Louise Marie Hurel
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> Cybersecurity Project Coordinator | Igarapé Institute
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> London School of Economics (LSE) Media and
> Communications
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> (Data
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> and
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> Society)
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> Skype: louise.dias
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> +44 (0) 7468 906327
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> l.h.dias at lse.ac.uk
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> louise.marie.hsd at gmail.com
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> On Mon, 27 Aug 2018 at 18:43, Renata Aquino Ribeiro
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> <raquino at gmail.com>
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> wrote:
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>>
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> Thank you Joan for your clarification.
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>>
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 2:41 PM, Joan Kerr
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> <joankerr at fbsc.org>
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> wrote:
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > Hi Renata, All
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > NPOC is supporting Dina for a number of reasons.  She
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > has
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > been
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > working
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > hard
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > with the newly formed PC and has a lot of experience
> in
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > policy
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > and
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > processes.  NPOC feels Dina is the right choice and
> will
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > be
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > instrumental in
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > assisting with the policy going forward.
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > Thanks,
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 1:23 PM Renata Aquino Ribeiro
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > <raquino at gmail.com>
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > wrote:
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >>
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> Dear Joan
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >>
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> Please see inquiry from one of the NCUC EC reps.
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >>
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 1:47 PM, Bruna Martins dos
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> Santos
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > Dear all,
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > My first vote went to Shahul, and as I am still to
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > decide
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > who
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > will
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > get
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > the
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > second slot Im more prone to vote either o Ben or
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > Farell,
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > who
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > is
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > also a
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > NPOC
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > member I believe.
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > Renata, do you think that would be the case for
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > asking
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > Joan
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > whether
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > or
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > not
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > she'd recommend a second name since Remmy withdrew
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > his
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > candidacy
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > ?
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > best,
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > B.
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > Em dom, 26 de ago de 2018 às 21:59, Renata Aquino
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > Ribeiro
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > <raquino at gmail.com> escreveu:
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >>
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> Dear EC
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >>
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> It is time to announce the ICANN63 travel slots.
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> Please decide soon.
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >>
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> Thanks
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> NCUC-EC mailing list
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> NCUC-EC at lists.ncuc.org
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >>
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >>
> https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-ec
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > --
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > Bruna Martins dos Santos
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >> > @boomartins
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > --
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > Joan Kerr,
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > Entrepreneur, Artist, Humanitarian
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > T: +1 (416) 907-0783
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > Skype: joankerr_fbsc
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > fbsc.org, www.fbsc.eco
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > Chair: Victory Garden Leadership Implementation Team
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > Chair, Sustainable Agriculture, Global Humanitarian
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > Technology
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > Conference
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > Chair: IEEE Smart Villages Project, Sustainable
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > Agriculture
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > Working
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > Group
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > Chair: ICANN Not for Profit Operational Concerns
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > Constituency
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > Recipient of the United Nations Civil Society Award
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > (WSIS
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > 2004)
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > Recipient, Region of Durham Community Partnership
> Award
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > Advisor, IEEE Humanitarian Initiatives Committee
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > Advisor, Climate Smart Agriculture Youth Network,
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > (CSAYN)
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > Global
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> > Coordination Unit
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> NCUC-EC mailing list
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>> NCUC-EC at lists.ncuc.org
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>>
> https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-ec
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> _______________________________________________
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> NCUC-EC mailing list
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> NCUC-EC at lists.ncuc.org
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >> https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-ec
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >
> >>>>> >> >> >>> > --
> >>>>> >> >> >>> > Bruna Martins dos Santos
> >>>>> >> >> >>> >
> >>>>> >> >> >>> > Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
> >>>>> >> >> >>> > @boomartins
> >>>>> >> >> >>
> >>>>> >> >> >>
> >>>>> >> >> >>
> >>>>> >> >> >> --
> >>>>> >> >> >> Bruna Martins dos Santos
> >>>>> >> >> >>
> >>>>> >> >> >> Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
> >>>>> >> >> >> @boomartins
> >>>>> >> >> >
> >>>>> >> >> >
> >>>>> >> >> >
> >>>>> >> >> > --
> >>>>> >> >> > Bruna Martins dos Santos
> >>>>> >> >> >
> >>>>> >> >> > Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
> >>>>> >> >> > @boomartins
> >>>>> >> >> _______________________________________________
> >>>>> >> >> NCUC-EC mailing list
> >>>>> >> >> NCUC-EC at lists.ncuc.org
> >>>>> >> >> https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-ec
> >>>>> >> _______________________________________________
> >>>>> >> NCUC-EC mailing list
> >>>>> >> NCUC-EC at lists.ncuc.org
> >>>>> >> https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-ec
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > --
> >>>>> > --
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > Elsa Saade
> >>>>> > Consultant
> >>>>> > Gulf Centre for Human Rights
> >>>>> > Twitter: @Elsa_Saade
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> --
> >>>>
> >>>> Elsa Saade
> >>>> Consultant
> >>>> Gulf Centre for Human Rights
> >>>> Twitter: @Elsa_Saade
> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>> NCUC-EC mailing list
> >>>> NCUC-EC at lists.ncuc.org
> >>>> https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-ec
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Bruna Martins dos Santos
> >>> Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
> >>> @boomartins
> >>>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> NCUC-EC mailing list
> >> NCUC-EC at lists.ncuc.org
> >> https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-ec
> >>
> >



-- 
*Bruna Martins dos Santos *

Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
@boomartins
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