[NCUC-EC] FW: Proposal for travel support for trip to the INternational working group on data protection in telecommunications in Oslo April 2016

[Rafik Dammak]

Hi Farzaneh,


this request is not an for outreach to get new members  but to bring
privacy experts and Data Protection Authority to get involved in the
process and even intervene since they have the legitimacy to do so. NCUC
had one success in term of lobbying when our outreach and contacts get the
EU Article29 WG to send the letter to the board in 2013 about the RAA
provisions (the board still trying to dodge and not responding clearly to
that letter)

Stephanie is going to that meeting to inform DPA about what is happening,
since we have newly started RDS process and we need all possible allies to
come. so the purpose fall under "opportunities/strategies for increasing
our policy influence on this issue within ICANN". we will follow-up with
her closely to make this effective and beneficial for NCUC.

the allocation will come from NCUC budget , we exceptionally allocate small
amount when it is worthy to do so. that is why we need to work more in term
of fund-seeking and explore possible areas for that.

yes, in general we have the expectation that those supported by CROPP for
example to mention NCUC, get contacts and do a serious outreach. we are not
funding people to their own stuff, we don't have such luxury. that is quite
clear.

with comments I see in different discussions and threads with some level of
confusion, I do see the need for a clear strategy, roadmap ,strategy
listing goals and objectives so we can align them with the action we are
doing. for example "influencing PDP regarding privacy" can be translated
 into actions like capacity building for newcomers to get involved in the
process, funding NC experts to attend meeting, producing a position paper
about whois issue, outreach to DPA and other related parties. I will be
happy to work on that.

Such roadmap will also help us in term of selections, travel awarding,
appointments but also expectations from of what we are doing.

Best,

Rafik

2016-02-12 4:22 GMT+09:00 farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>:

> Hi
>
> Which budget are we going to use to allocate funding to Stephanie?  I
> agree with Rafik that it should be outcome oriented. As well as a blogpost
> as Milton suggested I think a report to"the EC about new membership
> possibilities" or "opportunities/strategies for increasing our policy
> influence on this issue within ICANN", would be nice. But I would like to
> see a plan from Stephanie on how she is going to raise awareness about our
> work and who she potentially has in mind to approach and discuss NCUC with.
>
> Sometimes participants ( and I dont mean Stephanie in specific here) just
> go to conferences with no mention of NCUC - I think if they are funded by
> us they have an obligation to at least talk about NCUC  and our work and
> show us results. ( whatever that maybe)
>
> If this is not funding that requires her to do outreach for NCUC, then
> what is the objective of funding her travel?
>
> I also am skeptical about the effectiveness of participation at the same
> conference every year which most of the times has the same group of
> participants . I also don't know what the objective is ....
>
>
>
> On 11 February 2016 at 19:55, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Back to this, is there any objection to this decision: 600$ to attend
>> privacy conference.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Rafik
>> On Jan 19, 2016 10:43 AM, "PeterGreen" <seekcommunications at hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Rafik, Milton, EC members,
>>>
>>> I recall that it was in last April that Stephanie attened the same
>>> meeting which was held in Seoul. So it would make it a consecutive and
>>> productive conduct to attend this year's meeting.
>>> I support to alloate $600 for Stephanie.
>>> Thanks very much.
>>> Best
>>> Peter
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>> From: rafik.dammak at gmail.com
>>> Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2016 10:13:48 +0900
>>> To: milton at gatech.edu
>>> Subject: Re: [NCUC-EC] FW: Proposal for travel support for trip to the
>>> INternational working group on data protection in telecommunications in
>>> Oslo April 2016
>>> CC: ncuc-ec at lists.ncuc.org
>>>
>>> Hi Milton,
>>>
>>> thanks for this.
>>> yes I do agree that we can agree with giving the support here with
>>> conditions. we have to be strategical about the support and be
>>> outcome-oriented. I think that the approach we discussed in our EC call
>>> (including CROPP slots)
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Rafik
>>>
>>> 2016-01-18 4:34 GMT+09:00 Mueller, Milton L <milton at gatech.edu>:
>>>
>>> FYI.
>>>
>>> To me, this seems like a very cost-effective support. $600 for a high
>>> profile at an international meeting among data protection commissioners. We
>>> can attach certain conditions to Stephanie's support, such as a blog post
>>> or a report to the EC about new membership possibilities or
>>> opportunities/strategies for increasing our policy influence on this issue
>>> within ICANN.
>>>
>>> --MM
>>>
>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>> > From: Stephanie Perrin [mailto:stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca]
>>> > Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2016 5:44 PM
>>> > To: rafik.dammak.ncsg at gmail.com; Mueller, Milton L <milton at gatech.edu>
>>> > Subject: Proposal for travel support for trip to the INternational
>>> working
>>> > group on data protection in telecommunications in Oslo April 2016
>>> >
>>> > Dear Executive Committee,
>>> > This is a proposal/request for travel support to attend the meeting of
>>> the
>>> > IWGDPT (aka the Berlin group) in Oslo, April 24-26 2016.  I have been
>>> asked
>>> > by the secretariat to write a paper for them on ICANN and privacy, and
>>> I of
>>> > course am delighted to do so.  I proposed to them the same deal that we
>>> > were able to arrange to cover my travel to Korea last April, and they
>>> have
>>> > agreed to cover my airfare, tentatively priced at around $860
>>> Canadian.  If
>>> > NCUC could cover my hotel, namely 3-4 nights at the conference hotel,
>>> I will
>>> > be able to attend.  Total costs should be around 588. for the hotel,
>>> so once
>>> > again NCUC got the lesser of the two expenses.
>>> >
>>> > I attach the invitation letter with details of the meeting, and the
>>> registration
>>> > information for the hotel.  Since they have negotiated a special rate
>>> of 1295
>>> > Krone or $146.72 US , and Oslo is notoriously expensive, I would
>>> propose to
>>> > stay at that hotel where I can also lobby folks if the occasion arises.
>>> >
>>> > Kind regards Stephanie Perrin
>>>
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