[NCUC-EC] Minutes and Recording NCUC EC Meeting 19 August 2016
Rafik Dammak
rafik.dammak at gmail.com
Wed Aug 24 01:35:19 CEST 2016
Hi,
adding to the minutes:
- asking Sonigitu Ekpe about the proof for using euros as currency in
order to make the payment
@everyone please review the minutes if there is anything missing.
Best,
Rafik
2016-08-24 7:22 GMT+09:00 Maryam Bakoshi <maryam.bakoshi at icann.org>:
> Dear all,
>
> Please find below for your review minutes and recording of the call of
> Thursday 19 August 2016. I have requested for the transcript of the call
> and will send once I am in receipt of it.
>
> Note: please excuse the format. I am working off my phone mostly, due to
> laptop breakdown.
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Maryam Bakoshi
> Secretariat Support - NCSG, NCUC & NPOC
> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)
>
> E: Maryam.bakoshi at icann.org
> S: Maryam.bakoshi.icann
> T: +44 7737698036
>
>
> *Meeting Minutes:*
>
>
> *Attendees:*
>
> Rafik Dammak
>
> Joao Carlos Caribe
>
> Milton Mueller
>
> Farzaneh Badii
>
> Grace Githaiga
>
>
> *Agenda:*
>
> Discussion about EC Letter
>
> Bylaws Change process
>
> Solving the travel support issue
>
> NCUC Election timeline
>
>
> *Proposals:*
>
> Farzeneh: suspend Peter from the EC, until EC receives the
> ombudsman decision
>
> Joao: send public letter praising Peter's work but
> explaining why he can't stay on the EC anymore
>
>
> *Action Items:*
>
> Milton to draft letter/email with proposals above by Sunday 21 August 2016
>
>
> Farzaneh to send red line version of bylaws
> to NCUC EC list by next Friday 26 August 2016
>
>
> Rafik to send an email to the mailing list with adjusted
> timeline for bylaws change process and draft announcement about the process.
> However, Rafik to first send the draft announcement
> to NCUC EC for review and approval
>
>
> The NCUC Executive Committee met August 19 2016 to consider the problem
> of Peter Green's eligibility for the EC. Peter Green was
> informed of the meeting and specifically invited to
> attend by the Chair, but did not attend. After considering
> the issue, the EC decided to: 1) Draft a public letter
> expressing our appreciation for Peter's prior work for
> the constituency but explaining that his employer'
> s membership in the Registry SG makes him ineligible for a
> leadership role in NCUC 2) Suspend Peter Green from the
> EC and rule that he is not eligible to run in the next
> election 3) Await a statement from the Ombudsman, whose
> decision will be seriously considered. The EC unanimously decided.
>
>
> EC to handle the case of interim appointment
>
>
> *Mp3 Recording:*
>
> https://icann.box.com/shared/static/3dmyhl3hzv8ll1vjhb5vwwbd72r3z2bh.mp3
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>
>
>
> *Chat Transcript:*
>
> maryam.bakoshi:Dear all, welcome to the NCUC ExCom meeting on Friday 19
> August 2016
> Milton Mueller:Hi Grace!
> Grace:Hi Milton
> Grace:Long time!
> Milton Mueller:Yes, since IGF Brazil
> Milton Mueller:Maryam, I am not seeing any capability for activating my
> microphone
> Grace:Mine too Maryam. I only have the speakers.
> Rafik:the AC is not connected to the bridge?
> Milton Mueller:apparently not
> Milton Mueller:we can't have a meeting if we can't talk to each other
> Milton Mueller:Maryam, this needs to be fixed!
> Maryam Bakoshi:Hi Milton, my apologies
> Maryam Bakoshi:we will get audio now
> Milton Mueller:thanks!
> Milton Mueller:WhY is the host disconnecting my microphone?
> Nathalie Peregrine:@ Milton, you ought to be able to click on the
> telephone icon at the top of the toolbar
> Milton Mueller:I have done that twice. And two times I have been
> "disconnected by the host"
> Milton Mueller:just did it again. green mic but no sound
> Nathalie Peregrine:pleae try again as neither Maryam nor I have
> disconnected you, apologies. Can we dial out to you Milton?
> Joao Carlos Caribe:Hi folks
> Farzaneh Badii:Hi Joao
> Maryam Bakoshi:Welcome Joao
> Milton Mueller:I will try to reconnect using the computer mic
> Nathalie Peregrine:ok I'll standby
> Farzaneh Badii:Grace, can you hear us ?
> Grace:Yes
> Farzaneh Badii:great :)
> Grace:Clear and loud!
> Milton:I missed your introduction
> Milton:I am on now and it looks like the mic works
> Rafik:it was passionate one
> Nathalie Peregrine:excellent news Milton!
> Maryam Bakoshi:Thanks Milton
> Milton::-)
> Milton:if you are talking Grace we cannot hear
> Grace:I CANT seem to get through the microphone
> Farzaneh Badii:perhaps Maryam can call you ?
> Milton:that's bad. same trouble I had a while ago
> Nathalie Peregrine:Grace, you are disconnected from the audio bridge and
> have not activated your mic, can we dial out to you
> Grace:but my question is, what will be the implication of our decision
> considering that Peter has escalated his letter to teh Ombudsman
> Maryam Bakoshi:Grac we will dial out to you again
> Farzaneh Badii::) stay still
> Grace:But please speak cause I hear you so so clearly
> Maryam Bakoshi:*Grace
> Milton:Joaoa we cannot hear you either
> Nathalie Peregrine:Joao has not activated his AC mic
> Farzaneh Badii:we cannot either
> Nathalie Peregrine:Joao, please click on the telephone icon at the top of
> the AC toolbar
> Milton:now we can hear you
> Farzaneh Badii:oh he is here :)
> Nathalie Peregrine:there we go! Please all mute mics/ phones to avoid
> feedback
> Nathalie Peregrine:Grace is connected on the audio bridge now
> Farzaneh Badii:Thanks Nathalie
> Farzaneh Badii:I don't think Peter wants to talk anymore personally
> Grace:I think he is very bitter but I must say his approach to the matter
> has surprised me.
> Joao Carlos Caribe:no more Farzi, this personally would be before letter
> Milton:yes
> Joao Carlos Caribe:mistake
> Joao Carlos Caribe:i just missed to low the hand
> Joao Carlos Caribe:I suggest another public letter to Peter about his
> valuable work on the EC, and the impossibility
> Joao Carlos Caribe:to continue with he because the procedures
> Milton:Rafik: Peter was invited to this meeting, right?
> Rafik:yes
> Milton:Note: Joao proposes that we send public letter praising Peter's
> work but explaining why he can't stay on the EC any more.
> Rafik:"Dear Peter,As you probably saw it, I sent email to EC list for a
> confcall to discuss our recent decision regarding your resignation from the
> EC. In that meeting we will also discuss the next steps with you. Please,
> everyone confirm you attendance, we may need to adjust the time next
> Friday since Maryam will have to manage NCSG EC call too.Best,Rafik"
> Grace:I wanted to say what Milton has said that we just need for everyone
> to see that it is an eligibility issue and not a personal one.
> Joao Carlos Caribe:I think Peter is angry, the letter will calm this issue
> Joao Carlos Caribe:exactly Grace
> Grace:He is angry yes but he is also dishonest. Bill raised the issue
> with him. So he knew what he was doing all along.
> Milton:I will do a first draft
> Milton:Sunday at the latest
> Farzaneh Badii:Maryam also please in the action item note that suspend
> Peter from EC until we receive the ombudsman decision
> Milton:Yes, agree.
> Grace:Lets do it today since we will not be having another meeting on
> Sunday.
> Joao Carlos Caribe:I think the letter probably will answer any request
> for reconsidere our decision.
> Milton:ok let's separate out the replacement issue from the rest of the
> motion
> Milton:Action item: call for volunteer temporary replacements on the NCUC
> list
> Milton:respect and consider
> Joao Carlos Caribe:I think we need to wait for this replacement
> Farzaneh Badii:yes . he is inelligible to run
> Milton:Nope
> Milton:ok draft a motion?
> Grace:Yes he is not eligible.
> Joao Carlos Caribe:Put someone now on Peter's position
> Joao Carlos Caribe:would not be a good idea
> Joao Carlos Caribe:not now until we are under this issue with ombudsman
> Joao Carlos Caribe:The kids are fantastic!
> Farzaneh Badii:haha :)
> Milton:working on a draft motion, not listening carefully
> Milton:move on to the election procedure
> Farzaneh Badii:yes
> Farzaneh Badii:agenda 4
> Joao Carlos Caribe:yes
> Milton:I will be ready in about 5-10 minutes
> Milton:Whatever is next on the agenda
> Grace:@Maryam, i have been disconnected. Could you have them call me
> again?
> Maryam Bakoshi:\yes
> Grace:Although I heard what Raffik said on this matter and fully support.
> Farzaneh Badii:ok
> Maryam Bakoshi:Grace, I have asked for your number tobe dialled again
> Grace:Thank you Maryam
> Grace:I am back.
> Maryam Bakoshi:Yes it is @ Farzaneh
> Milton:Proposed motion
> Milton:The NCUC Executive Committee met August 19 to consider the problem
> of Peter Green's eligibility for the EC. Peter Green was informed of the
> meeting and specifically invited to attend by the Chair, but did not
> attend. After considering the issue, the EC decided to: - Draft a public
> letter expressing our appreciation for Peter's prior work for the
> constituency but explaining that his membership in the Registry SG makes
> him ineligible for a leadership role in NCUC - Suspend Peter Green from the
> EC - Await a statement from the Ombudsman, whose decision will be
> considered and respected
> Milton:slightly modified version
> Milton:The NCUC Executive Committee met August 19 to consider the problem
> of Peter Green's eligibility for the EC. Peter Green was informed of the
> meeting and specifically invited to attend by the Chair, but did not
> attend. After considering the issue, the EC decided to: 1) Draft a public
> letter expressing our appreciation for Peter's prior work for the
> constituency but explaining that his membership in the Registry SG makes
> him ineligible for a leadership role in NCUC 2) Suspend Peter Green from
> the EC and rule that he is not eligible to run in the next election 3)
> Await a statement from the Ombudsman, whose decision will be considered and
> respected
> Joao Carlos Caribe:excellent
> Farzaneh Badii:I think it is
> Farzaneh Badii:yes
> Farzaneh Badii:Friday is fine
> Grace:Been kicked out again Maryam.
> Milton:what is the action?
> Milton:OK I support
> Joao Carlos Caribe:I support
> Grace:The resoulution is good.
> Grace:Good job Milton.
> Farzaneh Badii:yes
> Maryam Bakoshi:Hi Milton, pleae could you write in the chat what the
> changes are?
> Milton:just stop at considered
> Farzaneh Badii:only consider
> Joao Carlos Caribe:the legal stuffs... agree with considered
> Milton:The NCUC Executive Committee met August 19 to consider the problem
> of Peter Green's eligibility for the EC. Peter Green was informed of the
> meeting and specifically invited to attend by the Chair, but did not
> attend. After considering the issue, the EC decided to: 1) Draft a public
> letter expressing our appreciation for Peter's prior work for the
> constituency but explaining that his employer's membership in the Registry
> SG makes him ineligible for a leadership role in NCUC 2) Suspend Peter
> Green from the EC and rule that he is not eligible to run in the next
> election 3) Await a statement from the Ombudsman, whose decision will be
> seriously considered
> Joao Carlos Caribe:Fine
> Joao Carlos Caribe:ok not to say
> Joao Carlos Caribe:yes
> Milton:??
> Rafik:grace are you with us? we are voting?
> Nathalie Peregrine:We are dropping Grace and re-dialing her
> Nathalie Peregrine:she's back
> Milton:can she see the motion?
> Milton:right
> Milton::-(
> Rafik:young in the spirit :)
> Milton:can beat you at wrestling
> Rafik:always resorting to violence
> Joao Carlos Caribe:about this money issue what are the possibility to
> NCUC
> Joao Carlos Caribe:to adopt PayPal?
> Milton:his receipts were in Nigerian Naira
> Milton:883
> Milton:$883 USD
> Milton:Joao's hand is up
> Joao Carlos Caribe:Just at PayPal we can hold a different currencies
> account
> Milton:218,000
> Milton:234,500
> Milton:dollars
> Milton:right. He wants dollars.
> Grace:Yes he wanted foreign currency.
> Milton:no, young hand
> Grace:The receipts were in naira and everythign was refunded
> Grace:But how would he have spent in euros and the receipts were in
> naira? Really not clear.
> Milton:as far as i am concerned there will be no "next time" with S
> Grace:I agree Milton.
> Farzaneh Badii:The difference between $699.869 and 800 euros
> Farzaneh Badii:upon providing proof
> Milton:Grace: he could have converted Euro cash to Naira cash and then
> bought the tickets and hotel
> Grace:It is next time with others. With lessons learnt :)
> Milton:yes
> Farzaneh Badii:election timeline?
> Grace:I saw your proposal Rafik and it looks good.
> Farzaneh Badii:ok thanks
> Farzaneh Badii:Thanks everyone
> Farzaneh Badii:good bye
> Joao Carlos Caribe:thanks for a productive meeting
> Grace:Ciao.
> Nathalie Peregrine:Of course!
> Milton:Bye all!
> Nathalie Peregrine:recordings have been stopped
> Joao Carlos Caribe:bye
> Maryam Bakoshi:Thank you all for attending the call. Good bye
>
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