[NCUC-EC] [NCUC-DISCUSS] Documentation of NCUC Appointments and Allocation of Travel Slots

Mon Nov 23 10:30:11 CET 2015

Thanks Peter,

this is a very helpful database which demonstrates the diversity of the NCUC. We should send this - just FYI - to the Board Organisational Effectivness Committee. When I served in this Committee I was perplexed to realize that some members of the Board Committee had no clue about the inner details of the various constituencies of the GNSO, in particular the NCUC, which - in their eyes - was seen as a small group of academic noise makers. And it is always better to argue with Facts instaed of emotions. 

Wolfgang

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Thanks Peter
I am sure it will help in the near future historically.
Remmy Nweke

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On Sun, Nov 22, 2015 at 4:53 PM, PeterGreen <seekcommunications at hotmail.com>
wrote:

> Dear EC members and NCUCers,
>
> Believe it or not, finally I completed it. Though I have no idea whether
> it helps, I have tried to make it happen.
>
> In August when we selected the NCUC appointee to the 2016 Nominating
> Committee. We have two candidates: Remmy and Bill. During the selection
> process, concerns were raised regarding to what positions NCUC has to
> appoint representatives.  It seemed that some members did not know much
> about that.
>
> (Recall that couple of weeks ago, Tapani sent a call for volunteers to
> serve on the  SCI, that was for NCSG, we have our NCUC representatives to
> SCI).
> (Besides, each year, the EC has to make decisions for various positions
> NCUC has to appoint a representative(s).
> Also, for travel support, we have limited travel slots.  The EC also has
> to decide how to allocate the ICANN funding slots and NCUC funding slots.)
>
> So we came to realize that something must be done in order for members to
> have knowledge of NCUC vairous positions.
> Going back, we do not have a complete and overall * INSTITUTIONAL MEMORY
> List* since the inception of NCUC. Even we did not have all the records
> in the NCUC Space of the Community Wiki.
>
> In accordance with Rafik's suggestion:
>
> *another suggestion: better to create a page in website for all
> nominations/elections related stuff (process, nominations,
> candidates/appointees) so you can refer to it in future.*
>
> Then I took this job and made it in a slightly different way than Maryam
> has done in
> https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomuserconst/Elections+2015
>
> I tried to record the* results of the various positions **that NCUC has
> its represnetatives **and allocation of travel slots for each ICANN
> meeting. *
>
> So it can tell you about the various appointed positions of NCUC by this *Documentation
> of NCUC Appointments and Allocation of Travel Slots*:
>
> a.  NCUC Executive Committee
> b.  NCUC Representatives to NCSG Executive Committee
> c.  NCUC Representatives to NCSG Policy Committee
> d.  NCUC Representatives to the Nominating Committee
> e. NCUC Representatives to GNSO Standing Committee on Implementation
> Improvements (SCI)
> f.  NCUC Representatives to GNSO Council
> g. NCUC Representatives to Public Interest Registry ".org" Advisory
> Council
> h. Allocation of NCUC Travel Slots Under ICANN Travel Support Policy
> i.  Allocation of NCUC Travel Slots Under NCUC Travel Support Policy
>
> (I did not include the NCUC Treasurer position which has been held by
> Milton.)
>
> It does consume most of my time and energy to dig into the historical mail
> archives of the last 16 years.
> I wrote to Glen to ask for some records available, but have not yet
> receive her records, so tried to dig into the archives to have the records
> of allocation of travel slots. Later on, if I receive more records from
> her, I will put them in the documentation.
>
> *So there are errors and vacancies in the documentation.*
> *I repeat that I am not sure in which way it may help, but **hope if
> someone who may find it useful would come up to repair that.*
>
> In future, I think we could ask Marysm to put the documentation on the
> NCUC official website, then any visitor of the website could have an
> instant knowledge of NCUC history.
>
> We see it as a good tool for the organizational management, largely for
> the benefit of  NCUC EC, hope it is helpful for NCUC members.
>
> Thanks very much for your attention.
>
> Best Regards
> Zuan Zhang
> Peter Green
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
> From: seekcommunications at hotmail.com
> To: glen at icann.org
> Subject: List of Historical Records of Covered Travellers in NCUC
> Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2015 20:04:41 +0800
>
> Dear Glen,
>
> Hope everying is going well with you.Really looking forward to meeting you
> in Dublin Meeting which is days to go.
>
> I am writing in the hope of having your help to deliver a list of the
> historical records of covered travellers in NCUC.
>
> As you can read from the earlier emails below, we, on the Executive
> Committee of NCUC,  talked about this when we selected a NCUC Delegate to
> the ICANN 2016 NomCom (finally we had Bill fill into the position). During
> the selection, we heard concerns that some NCUC members (not to mention the
> potential new members) did not have idea of the NCUC history along with who
> had ever held what positions representing NCUC in the ICANN community.
>
> So we came to realize that NCUC did have a lack of a clear and complete * INSTITUTIONAL
> MEMORY* since its inception.
>
> So I came up and would like to help build that for NCUC.
>
> You could find the attachment what I have been working on.
>
> I have dug the email archives of NCUC EC since 1999 to compile those
> records, however, still incomplete now.
>
> The last part of the documentation is the *Histrory of Allocation of NCUC
> covered slots*, which could help the EC (incumbent or future) to decide
> whom to be funded on the principle of rotation. This is very important.
>
> As Bill had suggested, it may be of great helpful if you could deliver us
> on your part a list of the historical records of covered slots allocated to
> NCUC.
>
> I wonder if you have a complete list and do not need to dig your email
> archives.
> I hope I would finish the documentation before I go to Dublin.
>
> In future, I think we could ask Marysm to put the documentation on the
> ICANNwiki as well as the NCUC official website, then any visitor of the
> website could have an instant knowledge of NCUC history.
>
> We see it as a good tool for the organizational management, largely for
> the benefit of  NCUC EC.
>
> Looking forward to your reply.
>
> Best Regards
> Peter
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
> Subject: Re: [NCUC-EC] Soliciting Nominations of Candidates for NCUC
> Delegate to the ICANN 2016 NominatingCommittee
> From: william.drake at uzh.ch
> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2015 16:14:00 +0200
> CC: rafik.dammak at gmail.com; ncuc-ec at lists.ncuc.org
> To: seekcommunications at hotmail.com
>
> Hi
>
> Sure, if we want to list everyone who's served in various positions etc.
> we can, although I wonder if it will deepen the apparent trend toward
> focusing on the division/allocation of "roles" and "opportunities" more
> than on policy work and constituency-building.  I would not like us to
> become a poor man's At Large, but this may be the trajectory we're pushed
> in.
>
> For the EC, there is an incomplete list already of past EC members at
> http://www.ncuc.org/governance/previous-executive-committees/
>
> GNSO Councilors (formerly NCUC now SG) and NCUC appointees to the NCSG EC
> and PC are at
> https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Leadership+Team. Reps
> to WGs etc at
> https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Representatives but
> historical would have to be dug out from ncsg.is and gnso.icann.org
>
> You may recall that when we were debating the process for managing travel
> slots for the meetings I spent a bunch of time trying to dig up records of
> who had traveled to each meeting. This will be in the mail archive.  The
> effort was incomplete but Glen promised she could help dig it out if we
> really wanted.
>
> For Nomcom, someone passed along a listing on Skype the other day:
>
> 2015 Brenden Kuerbis (NA)
> 2014 Rafik Dammak (AF), Brenden Kuerbis (NA)
> 2013 Rafik Dammak (AF)
> 2012 Maria Farrell (EU)
> 2011 Maria Farrell (EU)
> 2010 Norbert Klein (AP)
> 2009 Norbert Klein (AP)
> 2008 Karen Banks (EU)
> 2007 Karen Banks (EU)
> 2006 Frannie Wellings (NA)
> 2005 Frannie Wellings (NA)
> 2004 George McLaughlin (AP)
> 2003 Marc Schneiders (EU)
>
> Not sure what other information people think should be aggregated but this
> is a start.
>
> Best
>
> Bill
>
> On Aug 10, 2015, at 3:51 PM, PeterGreen <seekcommunications at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hi Rafik,
>
> *another suggestion: better to create a page in website for all
> nominations/elections related stuff (process, nominations,
> candidates/appointees) so you can refer to it in future.*
>
> Thanks for this great suggestion.
> Compiling a NCUC Representatives Document (including all historical
> nominations and elections) has been the thing I want to do .
>
> I will try to collect those records and materials.
>
> Best
> Peter
>
>
> ------------------------------
> From: rafik.dammak at gmail.com
> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2015 10:35:07 +0900
> To: ncuc at tapani.tarvainen.info; ncuc-ec at lists.ncuc.org
> Subject: Re: [NCUC-EC] Soliciting Nominations of Candidates for NCUC
> Delegate to the ICANN 2016 NominatingCommittee
>
> Hi,
>
>
> > Then, point taken, we shall start discussions on selection, adding
> > Rafik, Milton Robin and Tapani in the list.
>
> We are already on the list, no need to add us. :-)
>
>
> yes I am here already :)
> I think you got already a plan to proceed. as mentioned several  times, it
> is important to remind members about process what was done before and refer
> to charter when needed. just focus to conduct this appointment process for
> now then do a retrospective later to  find what can be improved and write
> down the process to document it. you cannot improve such process on the fly
> and doing so will raise more issues than solutions.
> another suggestion: better to create a page in website for all
> nominations/elections related stuff (process, nominations,
> candidates/appointees) so you can refer to it in future.
>
> Best,
>
> Rafik
>
>
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