[NCUC-EC] PLEASE RESPOND TODAY IF POSSIBLE: NCPH Intersessional Planning call on Friday, July 18th at 15:00 UTC

Carlos Affonso Pereira de Souza caffsouza at gmail.com
Fri Jul 18 10:12:00 CEST 2014


My situation is the very same one as Stefi's. Both in terms of not been
able to be in call because we are sharing panels in the IAMCR today (right
now, btw) here in lovely Hyderabad, and the decision on what is going to
happen in 2015.

For the purposes of the call today, I would like to let you guys know that
I am working on a submission to the CGI by next week for the renewal of
their support to the NCUC. Early next week I will send it to the EC list
for your suggestions and improvement of your knowledge of Portuguese.

Best,
Carlos


2014-07-18 13:14 GMT+05:30 William Drake <william.drake at uzh.ch>:

> thanks Stefi, that’s help enough for now
>
> On Jul 18, 2014, at 9:36 AM, Milan, Stefania <Stefania.Milan at EUI.eu>
> wrote:
>
> Hi Bill, thanks for this.
> Unfortunately I am unable to join the call today (attending IAMCR
> conference, presenting or chairing or whatever else nearly in every time
> slot!). I have filled the doodle - but it is quite a while down the line,
> and I have clue where I will be by then... Ciao, stefi
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On 18/lug/2014, at 09:15, "William Drake" <william.drake at uzh.ch> wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> A couple years ago we held an intersessional meeting in LA for the
> NonContracted Party House to talk about its internal working and shared
> interests, or the lack thereof.  Rafik, I and the CSG leadership agreed we
> should do it again, and we put in a budget allocation request, which was
> approved.  Since then the conversation about when where and what agenda has
> been happening in a weirdly distributed way, sometimes on the publicly
> archived listserv set up for NCPH leadership discussions, but more often
> via varying Cc’s that the CSG folks initiate.  It occurs to me this morning
> in looking at the doodle for possible dates that a number of actors have
> participated who are not chairs, i.e. the ECs of CSG constituencies as well
> as our councilors.  This suggests that the NCUC EC also should have been
> included in the poll.  Sorry for the late notice, but I didn’t notice they
> were doing this.
>
> We have a call today.  I’m not at all clear who is supposed to be on the
> call, but on the Cc about it there are 2 NPOC people and a non-chair from
> CSG, and as I say the doodle is more diverse.
>
> So: a) if it’s fairly likely that you would like to remain on the NCUC EC
> come January (not clear I will), could you please fill out the doodle poll
> so we have a fuller account of who can make which dates from which sides
> http://doodle.com/kkr85zc6ueqbfws5
>
> Also, if someone is willing to join the call, I’ll add “a second” just as
> NPOC and CSG have done.
>
> While the below message was for some reason not on the public listserv,
> nothing here is sensitive and the conversation should be in a publicly
> archived list, so I’m forwarding it for background.  I don’t think I’m
> violating any privacy rights by doing so.
>
> Best
>
> Bill
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> *From: *William Drake <william.drake at uzh.ch>
> *Subject: **Re: Proposed agenda: NCPH Intersessional Planning call on
> Friday, July 18th at 15:00 UTC*
> *Date: *July 18, 2014 at 8:58:12 AM GMT+2
> *To: *Marilyn Cade <marilynscade at hotmail.com>
> *Cc: *Benedetta Rossi <benedetta.rossi at icann.org>, Tony Holmes <
> tonyarholmes at btinternet.com>, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>,
> Steve Metalitz <met at msk.com>, Elisa Cooper <elisa.cooper at markmonitor.com>,
> "rudi.vansnick at isoc.be" <rudi.vansnick at isoc.be>, "lori.schulman at ascd.org"
> <lori.schulman at ascd.org>, Kristina Rosette <krosette at cov.com>, Rob
> Hoggarth <robert.hoggarth at icann.org>
>
> Hi all
>
> Thanks Marilyn for moving this forward.  A question: why aren’t we using
> gnso-ncph-leadership at icann.org?  Isn’t this the sort of thing the list is
> for.  The varying Cc’s for different conversations leave me slightly
> confused about who’s party to which conversation and what to repeat to whom.
>
> As we are apparently doing it here, I would note that the variable Cc's
> also have left me unclear as to whether this is a meeting of the chairs, or
> the chairs+?  If it’s the latter I'd like to bring along a concerned second
> from NCUC as well.  Please inform.
>
> On Jul 18, 2014, at 2:02 AM, Marilyn Cade <marilynscade at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Bene, thanks so much.
> We would like to have a few minutes at beginning of call to address a NON
> Intercessional topic that is relevance to our House. Could we perhaps just
> block off 10-15 min at beginning of call? it could be called NCPH
> discussion.  I will leave it to my fellow officers on whether we postpone
> the recording, or keep the recording, but make it clear that this is a
> different topic. I personally have no problem with staff being on the call,
> but  but it is NOT about the Intercessional, and we might decide to ask you
> to rejoin after 15 min.
>
>
> Personally I see no reason for an exception to standard practice,
> especially bearing in mind the London statements by CEO and Board et al
> about the community needing to be transparent and accountable as well.  We
> ought to have a record our members can access when we discuss an important
> representational decision, no?  But if others feel differently let’s state
> for the record who opposes why and act accordingly.
>
>
> BUT, I am very flexible.  We just needed to take advantage of being in the
> same space for a discussion that is important to the NCPH.
>
> I know all of us look forward to advancing the Intercessional discussion
> and planning.
>
> Doing Math about Availability:
> I tried to do the math on who is available in the time frames we agreed,
> and this is my rough analysis. but subject to Bene who is probably better
> at math than I am! Or any of you.
>
>
> Re that doodle http://doodle.com/kkr85zc6ueqbfws5, I think it all depends
> where the meeting would be held.  If memory serves we had been talking
> about D.C. on the grounds this would be logistically easier for the CSG
> (NCSG is very globally distributed so any location will please some and
> others less).  That’s part of why I indicated on the poll that I couldn’t
> do 8-9 and 12-13.  Since that time things have evolved and if I really had
> to do 12-13 I could.  Alternatively, if we did Istanbul or Brussels, I
> could do any of these dates, but if it’s the 8-9 I would hope the CSG will
> perform an a cappella happy birthday for me. :-)
>
> Also, I should note that I’d thought we were polling chairs and
> Councilors, so I didn’t as my the NCUC Exec. Comm to poll.  I will point
> them to the poll today and see if we can get more relevant data points
> before the meeting.
>
>
> Jan 8-9  - Most difficult for all
> NO: 4 NCSG
> NO: 5 IPC
> NO: 2 BC
>
> Jan 12-13: least difficult for all -- possibly best option
> NO: 1 NCSG
> NO: 1 BC
>
>
> Jan 15-16: difficult for some in significant numbers.
> NO: 1 BC
> NO: 1 IPC
> NO: 5 IPC*
> I think this is Kristina and all five IPC reps, for a total of 6 not
> available on that date. I stand to be corrected. BUT, that week end is a US
> holiday, and some in the US will have famlly obligations as is typical of
> such holidays in all countries.
>
>
> Look forward to speaking with you today,
>
> Bill
>
>
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