[NCUC-DISCUSS] Concerns about Coronavirus (2019-nCOV) and the Cancun Meeting ?

Stephanie E Perrin stephanie at digitaldiscretion.ca
Sun Feb 16 22:38:54 CET 2020


Yes and please, although I made a joke about a potentially never-ending 
EPDP meeting should we be so unfortunate as to be quarantined in Cancun, 
do not think I am taking this lightly.

FIrst of all, those who have any of the following situations must be 
free to assess their own risk and cancel /without obligation to pay for 
already booked travel,/ regardless of whether ICANN decides to cancel:

  * weakened immune systems or other health conditions that put them or
    their family at greater risk
  * pregnancy or small children, elderly family members
  * airport connections which are potentially unstable, chaotic,  or
    unable to connect them successfully without putting them at risk.

I have heard from a few folks with concerns, so I plan to write in 
response to Goran again and request this consideration.  Regardless of 
the outcome of his deliberations, we must allow people to cancel if they 
feel at risk.

Stephanie Perrin

NCSG Chair

On 2020-02-16 2:26 p.m., Bruna Martins dos Santos wrote:
> Hey all,
>
> I believe that there was some misunderstanding. And I apologize if 
> from my previous emails it might have sounded as if I did not consider 
> this to be an important concern, because I do.
>
> Both Stephanie and I mentioned to Goran how much we appreciate the 
> concernsdemonstrated so far with the community - from the crisis team 
> assembled exclusively for this purpose to these new communications. 
> And I pretend to report back from the call with community leaders on 
> Tuesday.
>
> At the same time, cancelling a meeting in such short notice might 
> bring huge costs to Org and we will miss one of the few onsite 
> interaction opportunities In our issues. Therefore, the only hope here 
> is for this virus to have reached its peak just so we can follow up 
> with our calendar - reminding you all that next meeting will take 
> place in Asia.
>
> Promise to report back on Tuesday.
>
> Best,
> Bruna Santos
> NCUC Chair
>
> Em dom, 16 de fev de 2020 12:51, Caleb Olumuyiwa Ogundele 
> <muyiwacaleb at gmail.com <mailto:muyiwacaleb at gmail.com>> escreveu:
>
>     I hope we can read this blog from ICANN.
>
>     The concerns raised are genuine and we may wish to consider them.
>
>     My general thoughts is that, if no vaccines are produced next
>     week... Which I doubt it's possibility, why risk lives of ICANN
>     volunteers?
>
>     Aside from that, ICANN has a brand to protect while considering
>     that they might not want to risk the cost of been sued by any
>     affected party.
>
>     If one single infection is noticed, every attendee is quarantined
>     for two weeks.
>     I'm sure ICANN does not have any of that in the emergency funds
>     for Cancun budget.
>
>     One thing is certain, a healthy community is very desirable and
>     prevention is cheaper than cure like my doctor will tell me during
>     consultation.
>
>     Just to back up the cautionary note with data, find below a link
>     that tracks all the cases of coronavirus globally.
>
>     https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries
>     ________________________________
>
>     https://www.icann.org/news/blog/update-on-icann67-planning-and-covid-19-coronavirus
>
>
>     _______________________________
>     The ICANN Board and ICANN org have been closely monitoring
>     COVID-19 since it was first reported in Wuhan, China in December
>     2019. The World Health Organization now considers COVID-19 a
>     global health emergency.
>
>     As we approach ICANN67 in Cancún, Mexico, we continue to assess
>     the situation because, as we have stated before, the health and
>     well-being of the ICANN community is our highest priority. Today,
>     I asked the ICANN community leaders and representatives to join me
>     on call next week to share information and solicit their input.
>
>     The message I sent to the community leaders today:
>
>     Dear Community Leaders and Representatives:
>
>     Thank you for your prompt responses to my last email enquiring
>     about your Community members’ thoughts regarding travel to Cancun
>     for ICANN67.
>
>     Many of you have asked for more information about how we are
>     assessing the situation. I’d like to hold a call with you to
>     discuss the matter in detail, and propose that we hold the call
>     this coming Tuesday, 18 February at 17:00 UTC. A calendar
>     invitation will follow shortly.
>
>     In the meantime, I’d like to share with you what we know about the
>     situation today.
>
>     ICANN Org has convened a crisis management team to monitor the
>     global situation related to the COVID-19 coronavirus and assess
>     how it may impact the important work of the ICANN community,
>     Board, and Org. To help you prepare for the call on Tuesday, I’d
>     like to share what we know about the situation today.
>
>     As of 13 February, the World Health Organization (WHO) reports
>     there are more than 60,000 confirmed cases in 25 countries.
>     Approximately 450 of those cases are outside China.
>     At the time of this writing, there are no confirmed cases anywhere
>     in the LAC region.
>     Mexico’s Ministry of Health is monitoring and testing two
>     suspected cases, one in Mexico City (800 miles from Cancún) and
>     one in Nuevo Leon (900 miles from Cancún). All 12 previously
>     suspected cases in Mexico tested negative and were cleared.
>     The Brazilian Ministry of Health is currently monitoring and
>     testing 11 newly suspected cases.
>     The incubation period for the virus is still unknown, and has
>     ranged from five days to 24 days.
>     Once suspected, testing for the virus can take up to 14 days.
>     As a result of the outbreak the GSMA Board has cancelled the
>     Mobile World Congress in Barcelona, Spain; and Cisco Australia has
>     cancelled its Cisco Live event, scheduled for 3-6 March in
>     Melbourne, Australia. (We note that APRICOT2020/APNIC49 in
>     Melbourne has not been cancelled.)
>     As we consider the potential impact for going ahead with ICANN67
>     as planned, we are closely monitoring a variety of factors, such as:
>
>     The development of confirmed cases in Cancún.
>     The ability of health authorities in Mexico to effectively
>     mitigate and respond to a case or outbreak. Examples:
>     Clear testing and quarantine protocols, and determination of
>     whether patients can be managed in Cancún or must be transferred
>     elsewhere.
>     Concern over sufficiency of travel restrictions or health
>     screenings for travelers coming from affected countries.
>     ICANN meetings are attended by contractors and participants from
>     more than 150 countries. With cases in at least 25 of those
>     countries, there is a risk of bringing the virus to Cancún and
>     into the ICANN meeting site.
>     The potential a member of the Org presenting COVID-19 symptoms,
>     raising concerns that they may have potentially infected
>     colleagues scheduled to attend ICANN67.
>     The potential of an attendee contracting the virus in Mexico, and
>     inadvertently bringing the virus back to their home country,
>     organization, and family.
>     The risk of a “cruise ship” scenario in which a suspected or
>     confirmed case is identified during the meeting, necessitating the
>     mass-quarantine of all attendees and locals.
>     Discrimination or harassment against any attendee perceived to
>     come from affected countries or regions (i.e., racial or ethnic
>     stereotyping).
>     I understand that this is short notice for a call. If you cannot
>     make it to the call, I hope that you will forward the call
>     information to your vice-chair or your designee.
>
>     Thank you for your understanding. I look forward to our discussion
>     and your feedback, which will enable ICANN org to make the best
>     decision we possibly can, in the collective interests of our
>     Board, staff, and community.
>
>     Göran Marby
>
>     President & CEO ICANN
>
>     I thank the community leaders and representatives in advance for
>     this discussion, and we will continue to provide updates as more
>     information becomes available.
>
>
>
>     Caleb Ogundele
>
>     Caleb Ogundele
>
>     ________________
>
>     Sent with thumbs from a small screen mobile device.
>
>     Pelase exsuce typos adn errosr.
>
>     On Sun, Feb 16, 2020, 4:47 PM Benjamin Akinmoyeje
>     <benakin at gmail.com <mailto:benakin at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>         Dear Bruna,
>         The pandemic is a major concern for anyone I believe, Africa
>         was enjoying a clean run until today, as a case has been
>         reported confirmed.
>
>         https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/02/egypt-confirms-coronavirus-case-africa-200214190840134.html
>
>
>         Some weeks, there was a rumour of a case in the coast in
>         Namibia, but it was quickly ruled out.
>
>         However, I have been following the incidents from this map.
>         https://hgis.uw.edu/virus/?fbclid=IwAR3_gyAxk6TNvjEcfGpgBDRTeosb06KQRduD1hloZ1NOD8r88IjIOmdazdc
>
>
>
>         Hopefully, ICANN considers what is best for everyone I make an
>         objective decision. However, it is important to note that
>         China has continued to report lower new cases in the last 3
>         days if this continues in the near future. Humanity may have
>         conquered another threat yet again.
>
>         Kind regards,
>         Benjamin
>
>         On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 6:41 PM Bruna Martins dos Santos
>         <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com <mailto:bruna.mrtns at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>             Hey Yusif,
>
>             As mentioned above, asking for such measure can be a truly
>             exclusionary measure. The numbers of countries with
>             confirmed cases right now is geographically spread so that
>             would mean in a travel ban beyond Cinese territory.
>             Besides that, WHOs recommendations
>             <https://www.who.int/news-room/q-a-detail/q-a-coronaviruses>
>             for individuals during these times include "regular hand
>             washing, covering mouth and nose when coughing and
>             sneezing, thoroughly cooking meat and eggs".
>
>             On an information sharing note, it is important to mention
>             that ICANN issued a statement in Jan 31st mentioning that
>             they advised their staff on reducing the number of
>             unnecessary travel and even introducing anunilateral
>             travel ban on all flights to and from China (inclusive of
>             Hong Kong and Macau) that applies to all org staff.
>
>             Best,
>             Bruna Santos
>
>
>             Le ven. 14 févr. 2020 à 13:29, Stephanie Perrin
>             <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca
>             <mailto:stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>> a écrit :
>
>                 There are a lot of affected countries now, some with
>                 very few cases.  This action might be perceived to be
>                 biased, unless you banned every country that had a
>                 case, which covers a lot of territory.
>
>                 Stephanie Perrin
>
>                 On 2020-02-14 10:54 a.m., AMADU YUSIF wrote:
>>                 Hi Bruna,
>>                 My only concern is that is it possible to prevent
>>                 members from the affected countries to attend the
>>                 meeting?
>>                 This is because some members will be afraid even
>>                 though there may be screening at the Airports  but
>>                 still some people will be uncomfortable to attend the
>>                 meeting.
>>
>>                 Thank you
>>                 Yusif
>>
>>
>>
>>                 ESent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
>>
>>
>>                 -------- Original message --------
>>                 From: Bruna Martins dos Santos
>>                 <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> <mailto:bruna.mrtns at gmail.com>
>>                 Date: 14/02/2020 3:08 p.m. (GMT+00:00)
>>                 To: NCUC Discuss <ncuc-discuss at lists.ncuc.org>
>>                 <mailto:ncuc-discuss at lists.ncuc.org>
>>                 Subject: [NCUC-DISCUSS] Concerns about Coronavirus
>>                 (2019-nCOV) and the Cancun Meeting ?
>>
>>                 Dear NCUC,
>>
>>                 You might have already seen news about the
>>                 cancellation of the Mobile World Congress and some
>>                 other parts of the IG community concerns with regards
>>                 to the Corona Virus and upcoming events. Yesterday
>>                 ICANN CEO sent us the email below asking for the
>>                 community leaders to check with their SOs and ACs
>>                 whether there is any concerns with the upcoming ICANN
>>                 meeting, to be held in cancun.
>>
>>                 Therefore, I would like to ask you all how is NCUC on
>>                 that matter. Do we feel like we should support the
>>                 decision for ICANN to keep its plans of organizing
>>                 the Cancun meeting in 5/4 weeks? Are there any travel
>>                 concerns ?
>>
>>                 Highly appreciate any feedbacks you can provide as we
>>                 need to send our Constituency's opinion to the CEO.
>>
>>                 best regards,
>>                 Bruna Santos
>>                 NCUC Chair
>>
>>                 ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>>                 De : *Goran Marby* <goran.marby at icann.org
>>                 <mailto:goran.marby at icann.org>>
>>                 Date: jeu. 13 févr. 2020 à 13:53
>>                 Subject: [ICANN Community Leaders] ICANN67 Cancun -
>>                 Coronavirus (2019-nCOV)
>>                 To: so-ac-sg-cleaders at icann.org
>>                 <mailto:so-ac-sg-cleaders at icann.org>
>>                 <so-ac-sg-cleaders at icann.org
>>                 <mailto:so-ac-sg-cleaders at icann.org>>
>>                 Cc: Cassia Oliveira <cassia.oliveira at icann.org
>>                 <mailto:cassia.oliveira at icann.org>>
>>
>>
>>                 Cassia Oliveira on behalf of Goran Marby
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>                 Dear Community Leaders:
>>
>>                 As you know, ICANN org is actively monitoring
>>                 developments worldwide concerning the novel
>>                 coronavirus (2019-nCov). We take the health and
>>                 safety of our staff, Board and community members very
>>                 seriously and wish to do the right thing to continue
>>                 to ensure that everyone remains safe and informed. In
>>                 this regard, you may have heard that some
>>                 international conference organizers are, like ICANN,
>>                 monitoring and evaluating the locations and timings
>>                 of their events. Earlier today, the GSM Association
>>                 (GSMA) announced that it was canceling the Mobile
>>                 World Congress (MWC) that had been scheduled to take
>>                 place in Barcelona from 24-27 February 2020.
>>
>>                 In light of these developments, I write now to ask
>>                 whether you have heard any concerns from amongst your
>>                 members or other community members about traveling to
>>                 Cancun for ICANN67. While we have no immediate plans
>>                 to cancel or reschedule the Cancun meeting, it will
>>                 be very helpful to hear the community's feedback so
>>                 that we can take it into account in our planning. As
>>                 such, please let me or David Olive know if you or
>>                 your group have information or concerns you would
>>                 like to share. In the meantime, please refer to this
>>                 blog post by ICANN org's Vice-President for Security
>>                 Operations for information on how ICANN org is
>>                 handling this important
>>                 matter:https://www.icann.org/news/blog/an-update-on-the-coronavirus-and-its-impact-on-icann.
>>
>>
>>                 Thank you.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>                 Best regards,
>>
>>
>>                 Göran Marby
>>                 President & CEO ICANN
>>                 +1(310) 578 8690
>>
>>
>>                 Cássia Oliveira
>>                 Sr. Manager, Office of the President & CEO
>>                 cassia.oliveira at icann.org
>>                 <mailto:cassia.oliveira at icann.org>
>>                 +1(310) 578 8656
>>
>>
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