[NCUC-DISCUSS] David and his many positions at NCUC/NCSG/NPOC

[Stephanie Perrin]

Yes any bylaw change discussion would be really to address the anomaly 
of twin leadership roles, in both constituencies.  I think that is 
perhaps what Nadira meant, that the goal should be to ensure a person 
did not hold down two roles, allowing more people to participate.

Stephanie Perrin

On 2018-10-10 19:27, Rafik Dammak wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I don't think there is a specific problem here to get new members to 
> get into leadership. If you check the candidates for the election, you 
> can find most of them joined NCUC in the last 3 years or more 
> recently. It is not a bylaws problem as it already set a term limit, 
> for example, enabling the regular renewal of leadership (if you check 
> the leadership for the last years, you can see a lot of changes and 
> new faces). In the end, it is about encouraging more people to get 
> involved, participate actively and be ready to run for positions by 
> preparation and getting experience and that is not a bylaw or 
> procedural issue.
>
> Best,
>
> Rafik
>
> Le jeu. 11 oct. 2018 à 06:39, Nadira Alaraj <nadira.araj at gmail.com 
> <mailto:nadira.araj at gmail.com>> a écrit :
>
>     This email thread raises an important issue that I find
>     contradicting to what the
>     NCUC/NCSG/NPOC communities preaches. The tremendous efforts in
>     capacity building programs and outreach to bringing new members to
>     contribute to the policy work and leadership roles at the same
>     time the stated bylaws doesn't help on this regards.
>
>     Thanks Tapani for pointing that the bylaws does allows that. I
>     think it might be that these bylaws were put at the time when
>     there were few volunteers. But now the community is growing, hence
>     there is need to revisit these bylaws to encourage new members to
>     get into the leadership roles as an incentive to their actual
>     contributions to the community work whether it is in policy or on
>     managerial work.
>
>     I suggest to add this suggestion on the agenda for discussion at
>     ICANN 63 meeting.
>
>     Best wishes
>     Nadira
>
>     On Wed, Oct 10, 2018, 22:31 Tapani Tarvainen
>     <ncuc at tapani.tarvainen.info <mailto:ncuc at tapani.tarvainen.info>>
>     wrote:
>
>         This discussion has become a bit weird. After all:
>
>         * There's nothing in any bylaws or charters against being in
>         NCUC EC
>         and NPOC EC at the same time.
>
>         * There's no inherent conflict of interest between NCUC and
>         NPOC, and
>         should there be such in some individual case, David presumably
>         will
>         recuse himself.
>
>         * David make his plan perfectly clear before the election,
>         voters knew
>         it and voted him in.
>
>         Admittedly this is a completely new situation, and it is an open
>         question how well it will work, but NCUC members have chosen
>         to let
>         David try it. If it does cause problems, by all means let's
>         fix them,
>         but I find it odd people are saying we should try to prevent this
>         situation from reoccurring before we've seen how it works out now.
>
>         As for travel slots, I would find it inappropriate if David
>         were to
>         declare he'll only accept them from one constituency. Whatever he
>         does, he should treat NCUC and NPOC as equally as possible. Of
>         course
>         this situation calls for more cooperation and coordination between
>         NCUC and NPOC ECs than before, but I don't think that's a bad
>         thing.
>
>         -- 
>         Tapani Tarvainen
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