[NCUC-DISCUSS] [Call for ICANN61 participants] NCUC Policy Course - Onsite Slots - no funding

Mon Mar 12 15:39:32 CET 2018

It is a certificate of participation not linked to any credits.  These are
quite commonly used in training institutions for this kind of one-day
course.  It is a practitioner engagement and not meant to be academic.
Perhaps you have never encountered this type of certification in your
professional careers but it is really quite commonly used. Most people who
see such a certificate would be able to interpret what it means. As there
is no testing, no grades are given.
I have given out thousands of them (as the head of a training institution)
and received perhaps close to 100 over my career (mostly from UN bodies/
World Bank etc).  I accept that there may be some cultural issues at play
here because when I worked for the Government I also received lots of these
and looked at lots of them when recruiting staff. In Africa we see lots of
them.

As I sat in on the course I can say that it was definitely useful for
participants.  Ayden you will be happy that we looked at your personal
comment (that you had circulated earlier) on the budget as resource
material.

Now I am off to draft the exercise they have given us.  A comment which
will be less flowery, more concise and hopefully more effective than those
I have experimented with in the past.

I do not know where the idea came from (I am sure it is in an email
somewhere) but kudos to all involved including all those ensuring the
smooth execution of this training event. I believe that it is this kind of
initiative that will help the community grow both in numbers and expertise.
I think it was a good thing that it was NCUC members only.

best

On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 2:14 PM, Ayden Férdeline <icann at ferdeline.com>
wrote:

> +1 Stephanie
>
> -Ayden
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> On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 10:02, Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin at mail.
> utoronto.ca> wrote:
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> I am certainly aware of the needs for individuals and academic
> institutions to see proof of participation, and to the extent that ICANN
> meetings are free and open, there is not much in the way of validation
> coming on that score.  My point (several days ago) was simply to query the
> merit of a certificate in terms of validation of performance.  Frankly,
> many commercial conferences in my area of specialization provide
> certification for credits in ongoing education, and in my view the programs
> have often been focused on speakers whose sole purpose was marketing their
> firms' services, not education.  Thus my scepticism of such certs of
> participation.  Now, I am well aware that we are not doing that
> here.....but I would suggest that we should at a minimum specify how long
> the course is, whether there is any testing, etc.....the certificate draft
> at present could cover a one week course or a one hour course.  Needs to be
> clear.
>
> We are trying to ensure professional standards of behaviour at ICANN,
> ensuring that what we do is clear, rigorous, ethical, and does not pretend
> to be something it is not.  That is why I queried the cert....participation
> at such a course does not strike me as denoting anything, but I would be
> delighted to be proven wrong on this, because we are *absolutely
> desperate* to get more people contributing their skills to the writing
> and reviewing of comments.
>
> Note to Michael:  believe it or not, I am willing to bet that a PhD is a
> little harder to get than this certificate, and means a tiny bit more....
> :-)
>
> cheers Stephanie
>
> PS I am anxious to read the reviews of the course material, and would be
> delighted (as a frequent comment drafter) to review that course material if
> it is available.  I am afraid I must have missed it in the thread so would
> be grateful if someone pointed me to it.  Part of our duties as councillors
> for the GNSO is to ensure we are getting value for money, and I take that
> responsibility very seriously, as I am sure all the rest of you do as well.
> On 2018-03-12 00:49, Olévié Kouami wrote:
>
> Greetings from Lomé, Togo (West Africa)
>
> +1 @Christopher
>
> It's always useful to get a certification (of participation, at least) in
> a course.
>
> My 2 xof
>
> Olevie
>
> 2018-03-10 7:20 GMT+00:00 Christopher Momanyi <cmomanyi at strathmore.edu>:
>
>> I agree with Lucena's comment. A document to show ones participation in
>> an activity shows a persons engagement which in certain aspects may help
>> his academic institution. Some institutions will ask how ones engagement
>> will help his academic institution and on this basis one may be granted
>> permission to travel
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> On 9 March 2018 at 16:05, Cláudio Lucena <claudiokilla at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Another note, certificates are extremely useful for those of us who are
>>> working in universities, at least in Latin America, but certainly in other
>>> regions of the global south too, and definitely in other countries like
>>> Spain and Portugal, where I have some experience.
>>>
>>> Certifying activities makes it easier for us to inform them of our
>>> contribution, for them to track our engagement and the days we might be
>>> out, and more likely that they will allow us time to keep working and
>>> engaged. It's a practice.
>>>
>>> While helping at an NCUC booth at ICANN58 I saw a very interesting
>>> cultural shock between a fellow from Spain, who was looking for a
>>> certification of attendance to present back at his university, and a member
>>> of the organizing committee in Denmark, who had no idea what he was talking
>>> about or why he would need such a thing.
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>>> 2018-03-06 5:21 GMT-03:00 Olga Kyryliuk <olga_kyryliuk at ukr.net>:
>>>
>>>> Hi Renata,
>>>>
>>>> I agree with Michael's comment, but in general looks nice. I would also
>>>> suggest to mention place (San Juan, Puerto Rico) additionally to dates and
>>>> to add a line about what the training was aimed at and what skills trained.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> Olga Kyryliuk
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *5 марта 2018, 18:40:30, от "Michael Karanicolas"
>>>> <mkaranicolas at gmail.com <mkaranicolas at gmail.com>>:*
>>>>
>>>> Hi. Looks good! I would suggest that NCUC and ICANN be written out in
>>>> full, instead of abbreviated, in case the participants want to share it
>>>> with people who don't speak ICANN-ese though.
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Mar 5, 2018 at 12:36 PM, Renata Aquino Ribeiro <
>>>> raquino at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Dear all
>>>>
>>>> Good news!
>>>>
>>>> We were able to include 2 more great applications to NCUC Policy Course
>>>>
>>>> Caleb Olumuyia
>>>> Monica Trochez
>>>>
>>>> We were also sent the 1st draft of the certificate of participation
>>>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1CcR5ZwVR3GxWhsmNawy2Pa3OUInBf
>>>> sXT/view?usp=sharing
>>>>
>>>> A few changes will be made to this and it will be distributed to all
>>>> participants who join all activities of the Policy Course
>>>>
>>>> Thank you
>>>>
>>>> Renata
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