[NCUC-DISCUSS] [Announcement] NCUC new Vice-Chair

Wed Jun 20 21:06:47 CEST 2018

I have been in mailing list where people raise all manner of issues, ask
for accountability and differ in opinions, but respectfully.

On Wed, Jun 20, 2018, 9:55 PM James Gannon, <james at cyberinvasion.net> wrote:

> If people think some basic questions posed by members s a hostile
> environment then I would really love to work in whatever environment you
> all work in.
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>
>
> -J
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> *From:* Ncuc-discuss <ncuc-discuss-bounces at lists.ncuc.org> *On Behalf Of *Carlos
> Vera
> *Sent:* 20 June 2018 20:16
> *Cc:* NCUC-discuss <ncuc-discuss at lists.ncuc.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [NCUC-DISCUSS] [Announcement] NCUC new Vice-Chair
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> Congrats to Bruna.
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> Thank you Wisdom to raise your voice.
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> I feel some hostile environment every time somebody raise their voice
> (right or wrong we should explain and not attack)
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> Carlos Vera
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> On Jun 19, 2018, at 1:38 PM, Wisdom Donkor <wisdom.dk at gmail.com> wrote:
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> Noted with thanks.
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> *WISDOM DONKOR (S/N Eng.)*
>
> *Africa Open Data and Internet Research Foundation (Co-Founder)*
>
> E-government, Internet Governance & Open Government Data and platforms
> Specialist
>
> ICANN Fellow / UN IGF MAG Member, ISOC Member,
>
> Freedom Online Coalition (FOC) Member, Diplo Foundation Member,
>
> OGP Open Data WG Member, GODAN Member.
>
> National SDG's data Roadmaps Advisory Board Member, Ghana
>
> National Secretariat Manager, IT Association of Ghana (ITAG)
>
> Ghana Energy Data Task-force Member
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> Ghana OGP Advisory Committee Member
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> Email: wisdom.dk at gmail.com
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> Skype: wisdom_dk
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> facebook: Kwasi Wisdom
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> Linkdin: Kwasi Wisdom
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> On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 6:35 PM Elsa S <elsa.saade at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Wisdom,
>
>
>
> Since the EC did the deliberations as per procedure on the EC list which
> is public, as per bylaws, I will take it that you are having an issue with
> the bylaws themselves that suggested the EC would vote one of its EC
> members as Vice Chair. Note that the bylaws were reviewed so many times by
> NCUC members with the previous EC. And as far as the record, you did not
> have any issues regarding those.
>
>
>
> But if any concerns have recently taken light please don’t hesitate to
> send through your thoughts on the bylaws and if a review of those is
> decided, you would be able to input your thoughts and I am sure bothways
> NCUC members and the EC would keep your comments in mind as per procedure.
> Keep in mind that the bylaws are still fresh and it’s the first time NCUC
> has an elected Vice Chair as far as I know.
>
>
>
> There is no such thing as kin politics specific to this leadership during
> this vice chair elections, when the bylaws we followed were approved by
> NCUC members and are being applied as written. However if you think this
> process was unfair, as stated above, I would advise focusing your energy on
> a place where things could change! I wish you luck!
>
>
>
> Best,
>
>
>
> Elsa
>
> —
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>
>
> On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 1:33 PM Wisdom Donkor <wisdom.dk at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Elsa,
>
>
>
> I appreciate your mail. But lets stop the politics and be fair to all. In
> my opinion there wasnt any due process in this, the EC has fail on this one.
>
> i do no what is in the bylaw. But my point is, we must be transparent and
> be fair to all.
>
> The process in my opinion is a close one, there is nothing open about this.
>
>
>
> I must also state clearly that, i am not against the selected chair, but i
> am against that closed process that went
>
> into the selection of the vice chair. Let us stop this kind of politics
> and be more inclusive in our processes.
>
>
>
> regard,
>
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> *WISDOM DONKOR (S/N Eng.)*
>
> *Africa Open Data and Internet Research Foundation (Co-Founder)*
>
> E-government, Internet Governance & Open Government Data and platforms
> Specialist
>
> ICANN Fellow / UN IGF MAG Member, ISOC Member,
>
> Freedom Online Coalition (FOC) Member, Diplo Foundation Member,
>
> OGP Open Data WG Member, GODAN Member.
>
> National SDG's data Roadmaps Advisory Board Member, Ghana
>
> Ghana Energy Data Task-force Member
>
> Ghana OGP Advisory Committee Member
>
> Email: wisdom.dk at gmail.com
>
> Skype: wisdom_dk
>
> facebook: Kwasi Wisdom
>
> Linkdin: Kwasi Wisdom
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 4:46 PM Elsa S <elsa.saade at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Wisdom,
>
>
>
> Thank you for your email and for being cognisent of the need to be fair to
> all. I had to jump in and highlight that your concern is not really in
> place on this specific issue since the EC followed the procedure by which
> the revised bylaws state:
>
>
>
> - IV Executive committee - I - The Vice Chair: 1. A member of the EC may
> be designated as Vice Chair by a majority vote of the EC. (For your
> reference:
>
>
> https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/revised-bylaws-ncuc-17oct17-en.pdf
> )
>
>
>
> The change in bylaws which introduced this matter took a long while, and
> as you know it only got into effect very recently. Which is why it is
> understandable as to why this process could have been a bit confusing.
>
>
>
> However, please try to refrain from blaming the EC when they simply are
> followig procedure. The exchange which included the voting can be found
> publicly in our lists. And I’m sure my fellow EC and of course I’m
> available to answer any question if need be my friend!
>
>
>
> Thank you very much,
>
>
>
> Elsa
>
> —
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 11:59 AM Wisdom Donkor <wisdom.dk at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> I do agree to the fact that the bylaws allows for a vice chair. But i
> disagree to the fact that the broader members of the community was
> overlook. How come the opportunity was
>
> not thrown to the broader members to decide.
>
> To me the process lack transparency and it will be difficult for
> accountability to prevail in that regard. What i am seeing now is like
> allied and friends kind of rule.
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>
>
> I am sorry i am sounding like this but we need to be open fair to all.
>
>
>
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> *WISDOM DONKOR (S/N Eng.)*
>
> *Africa Open Data and Internet Research Foundation (Co-Founder)*
>
> E-government, Internet Governance & Open Government Data and platforms
> Specialist
>
> ICANN Fellow / UN IGF MAG Member, ISOC Member,
>
> Freedom Online Coalition (FOC) Member, Diplo Foundation Member,
>
> OGP Open Data WG Member, GODAN Member.
>
> National SDG's data Roadmaps Advisory Board Member, Ghana
>
> Ghana Energy Data Task-force Member
>
> Ghana OGP Advisory Committee Member
>
> Email: wisdom.dk at gmail.com
>
> Skype: wisdom_dk
>
> facebook: Kwasi Wisdom
>
> Linkdin: Kwasi Wisdom
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 3:44 PM farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> I apologize for jumping in to NCUC EC and wisdom but as a Co drafter of
> the bylaws I'd like to  make a clarification about the appointment process.
> The bylaws briefly says there should be a vice chair and that EC votes to
> select and vice chair should be a member of the EC. Our operating
> procedures probably needs updating to have a process for this but I have to
> say the ncuc ec process was not questionable. There are no rules
> againstVice chair being from the country nor region as the chair and no one
> else other than Bruna from the EC volunteered to run for the position.
>
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> On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 11:09 AM Wisdom Donkor <wisdom.dk at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Chair and Vice chair all from Brazil.
>
> How come? Was there any due process?
>
>
>
> I dont think this formation will promote transparency and accountability
> within NCUC.
>
>
>
> Cheers to all
>
>
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>
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> *WISDOM DONKOR (S/N Eng.)*
>
> *Africa Open Data and Internet Research Foundation (Co-Founder)*
>
> E-government, Internet Governance & Open Government Data and platforms
> Specialist
>
> ICANN Fellow / UN IGF MAG Member, ISOC Member,
>
> Freedom Online Coalition (FOC) Member, Diplo Foundation Member,
>
> OGP Open Data WG Member, GODAN Member.
>
> National SDG's data Roadmaps Advisory Board Member, Ghana
>
> Ghana Energy Data Task-force Member
>
> Ghana OGP Advisory Committee Member
>
> Email: wisdom.dk at gmail.com
>
> Skype: wisdom_dk
>
> facebook: Kwasi Wisdom
>
> Linkdin: Kwasi Wisdom
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 2:35 PM Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Dear members
>
> We have started the implementation of our new bylaws and one of the
> new positions we have is Vice-Chair.
>
> The EC elected for new NCUC Vice-Chair is Bruna Martins dos Santos,
> from Brasília, Brazil.
>
> Please join me in congratulating Bruna and wishing her the best on
> this new position.
>
> As a reminder, we have elections right before the ICANN63 meeting so
> from that cycle on we'll have a Vice-Chair for the whole year.
>
> Best,
>
> Renata
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