[NCUC-DISCUSS] Support of the ECO model

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On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 7:29 AM, Remmy Nweke <remmyn at gmail.com> wrote:

> Very right Farzaneh,
> Especially considering the reported embedding of security chips at African
> Union (AU) headquarters in Addis which facilitates interface with a server
> on Shanghai.
> Regards
> Remmy
>
>
> On 29 Jan 2018 7:13 pm, "farzaneh badii" <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Thank you Kathy, now I can see arguments for the ECO model that are
> substantive. Unfortunately  I have not studied it. But I made inquiries
> into law enforcement access under eco model. Here is the answer
>
> The section of the eco model on WHOIS data only refers to WHOIS data
> within the outlined scope of the GDPR. In most cases where personal data of
> EU citizens is being processed, EU data protection law applies. As a
> result, disclosure of* Whois data of EU citizens* to LEAs (both EU as
> well as non-EU) is only allowed if it can be justified under EU law (also
> including laws on international legal assistance).
> So access of law enforcement to information will be very limited under
> this model and has to be based on EU and international legal assistance
> law. But remember that this only applies to EU citizens. We still have to
> see what will happen to the rest of the world.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 12:39 PM Stephanie Perrin <
> stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca> wrote:
>
>> +1
>>
>> Stephanie Perrin
>> On 2018-01-29 12:35, Kathy Kleiman wrote:
>>
>> All,
>>
>> I've been traveling (now at NamesCon) and would like to weigh on. I like
>> the ECO model.  Here is some information about it with a link to the
>> detailed, technical proposal developed by a number of registries and
>> registrars, in the EU and outside, in conjunction with Thomas Rickert -
>> https://international.eco.de/2018/news/data-protection-and-t
>> he-domain-industry-eco-submits-data-model-to-icann.html
>>
>> 1. What I like about includes the following:
>>
>> 1. The ECO model engages in data minimization. It strips down the data
>> registrars will actually collect for domain name registration purposes to
>> just registrant data -- not technical contact, not administrative contact.
>> That's a good step since we've been collecting basically the same data
>> since NSFNET. Less data; less exposure.
>>
>> 2. It protects the data of individuals and organizations. This is a
>> fundamental concept that NCSG and NCUC have been pushing, teaching,
>> educating and advocating for the last 15 years of the WHOIS discussion. We
>> (NCUC/NPOC/NCSG) represent organizations and individuals -- all engaged in
>> noncommercial speech!  These include political, religious, and gender
>> groups all over the world. Battered women's shelters,
>> mosques/synagogues/churches located in areas where they are unpopular,
>> LGBTQ communities, political minorities. They are legal persons (that's how
>> you get insurance to protect the battered women's facility), but they are
>> also exposed for the speech positions that they take. This is not a
>> hypothetical; I have dealt with concerns for the physical safety of human
>> rights groups and dissident speakers around the world for almost 20 years.
>> Fortunately, organizations such as these are protected under the GPDR laws
>> that protect not only "personal data" but "sensitive data."  I can expand
>> much more (and will in future emails :-)), but for now let me share how
>> pleased I was to see that the ECO model protected both legal persons and
>> individuals -- including organizations exposed for the very speech they
>> share and services they provide (like women's health care and education)
>> (note: Model 2B protects legal persons too, but not Model 3).
>>
>> 3. It's implementable in the short time. Face it, there's not much time.
>> Systems have to be changed and that takes time. The registries and
>> registrars, including those on the front lines in Europe, worked hard on
>> this model. It's "doable" and means they can move rapidly into compliance
>> with the GDPR rules.
>>
>> 4. It is not unlimited access to the data. Other models proposed for
>> access had credentialing of the organization -- e.g., a whole law firm
>> could access unlimited Whois data including all paralegals and attorneys. A
>> unaccountable process. In the ECO model, individual attorneys have to
>> certify not only their legal credentials, but their reasons for each
>> individual access to the new WHOIS database. This access can be checked and
>> audited. Violations can be found, noted, published and access blocked. It's
>> not perfect, but it's far, far better than what we have now.
>>
>> Best regards, Kathy
>>
>> p.s. apologies for the double posting, but I don't think the lists of
>> NCSG and NCUC fully overlap.
>>
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