[NCUC-DISCUSS] Extended - IMPORTANT: [Call for volunteers] ICANNFellowship Program Community Consultation

[Liz Orembo]

To be honest, I have only done a quick glance at the doc now and I agree
that there's still much that needs to be worked on.

I don't know which liner I'm supposed to spare here... but in my comments
above I noted the period that the access concerns were mentioned.



On Thu, Apr 5, 2018 at 3:12 PM, Ayden Férdeline <icann at ferdeline.com> wrote:

> Liz,
>
> I feel like I am the only person responding to this exchange who has
> clicked the link and read the proposed response. There is no way that this
> is suitable for submission, and I have clicked the link several times over
> the past fortnight -- *there was no text a few days ago*. So spare me the
> line that there has been ample time for the prose to be reviewed, because
> this is simply untrue. This is not a professional response, and those of us
> who do expect the NCUC to submit professional responses will continue to
> trickle away if we allow our standards to fall so low as to submit this
> one. I do not intend for my comment to sound disrespectful, but I'm sorry,
> this is not ready for submission.
>
> Ayden
>
>
> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
> On April 5, 2018 2:06 PM, Liz Orembo <lizorembo at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> I see the draft was shared 10 days ago and in the first email of this
> thread, there were instructions to change settings to allow for comments
> and suggestions. Considering that the deadline to submit comments is
> tomorrow, I still think anyone can still input into the doc and the
> penholders can work on incorporating comments into the draft.
> If we had more time, I would suggest that the penholders compile and
> summarise the comments received from fellows, for clarity and to protect
> the identity of the fellows. (if that was the intention by hiding the
> names)
> @Ayden, I wish you raised the access concerns as soon as you experienced
> the challenges.
>
> On Thu, Apr 5, 2018 at 2:25 PM, Ayden Férdeline <icann at ferdeline.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Renata,
>>
>> Thank you for your message.
>>
>> I disagree that there have been "many interventions" to this document.
>> The Google Doc is in read-only mode, and I was not granted edit access, so
>> I have not been able to share my contributions to the proposed text.
>>
>> Of the 13 pages, 9 pages are copied and pasted from other sources and do
>> not relate to the questionnaire at hand. Of the 19 questions we have been
>> asked to answer, most (14) have not been responded to, and those 5 with
>> answers seem under-developed.
>>
>> We have already received one extension. This questionnaire was circulated
>> on the NCSG list in January, and I do not believe the text that I see in
>> the Google Doc today represents the view of the broader NCUC membership. I
>> think it would be inappropriate for the EC to submit this, given the
>> document has not been open to all members to edit, that the text is not
>> final, and responses are not offered to a majority of the 19 questions
>> being asked.
>>
>> A fortnight ago I requested, very modestly, that the membership have at
>> least 24 hours to review the final text before the EC considers endorsing
>> and submitting it. I am disappointed that this will not be the case. This
>> is not how we used to work.
>>
>> I respectfully suggest that this response is under-developed and not
>> suitable for submission on behalf of the NCUC. This is not a criticism of
>> anyone (I thank those who have worked on this document), it is just the
>> reality that we can't meet the deadline.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> Ayden Férdeline
>>
>>
>> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
>>
>> On April 5, 2018 1:14 PM, Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > Hi Ayden
>> >
>> > Yes, the deadline is 6th April.
>> >
>> > I'll send the document today to the EC.
>> >
>> > There are 13 pages on the document with many interventions.
>> >
>> > I will try to get an extra extension for this comment but seems
>> unlikely.
>> >
>> > Best,
>> >
>> > Renata
>> >
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>> >
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>> >
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>
> Best regards.
> Liz.
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Best regards.
Liz.

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