[NCUC-DISCUSS] [Request for Comment] NCUC meeting with GAC

[Renata Aquino Ribeiro]

Hi Bill

> We seem to be talking past each other somehow.

Yes. I hope to get points for trying, though.

>
> I wasn’t suggesting we could create damages. I said it’d be good if any
> input we make "helps focus the discussion and bound the possible space of
> least damaging outcomes.”  That is to say, help ICANN to focus on outcomes
> involving the narrowest possible range of negative impacts.
>

I am again, missing here what such input could be like.
Active engagement in new gTLDs wg seems a way forward and there are
members working on that path.
Beyond that, it would have to be something like a statement or a
participation on a comment so a request to be made to Chair or PC
Chair could be ways forward.
Once more, I do not oppose any similar effort but just pictured how it
seemed that the GAC has been increasingly vocal, in a number of issues
and that this should be tackled not by topic but by procedure.

Best,

Renata


> Expressions from a group are
> authored by that specific group and serve an specific purpose. NCUC
> members would be familiar with NCUC values when communicating on
> behalf of the group.
> Unless it is not NCUC we are talking about.
>
>
> It is.
>
> Cheers
>
> Bill
>
>
>
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> On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 10:02 AM, William Drake <wjdrake at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Renata
>
> On Oct 20, 2017, at 08:24, Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> Themes where there isn't much agreement can still be discussed and brought
> to light, if not one unanimous opinion, the range of comments.
>
> However, it does seems that with 3 sessions about a theme on schedule it
> looks like the GAC wants to do most of the talking. Maybe just following the
> debate and making a point that civil society is also there and not speaking,
> or not being a part of the dialogue, is also quite strong.
>
>
> Ok, I’ll bite: how does not speaking make any particular point?  Other than
> that we don’t know what to say, which is not usually viewed as an impressive
> stance in ICANN…?
>
> I’d think at a minimum we’d want to be able to cogently express the
> different views in our group, preferably in a way that helps focus the
> discussion and bound the possible space of least damaging outcomes…
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
> Em 19 de out de 2017 7:36 AM, "William Drake" <wjdrake at gmail.com> escreveu:
>
>
> Hi
>
> I could be wrong, but would suspect that the GAC might want to hear from
> civil society as to what we think about Amazon and jurisdiction, which are
> likely to loom large in AD.  If so it might make sense for us to consider
> what kind of messaging we might provide, especially since we’ve never had
> much agreement on the former.
>
> Bill
>
> On Oct 16, 2017, at 13:05, Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> A few points
>
> - 3 GAC meetings on Amazon and one on "Any Future"
>
> I think this is an all time record.
>
> Side note for a request to have a meeting on "Any Future" too.
> Accept "Utopia/Distopia" as alternate
>
> GAC Meeting with Amazon.com
>
> GAC discussion on Amazon IRP (1)
>
> GAC discussion on Amazon IRP (2)
>
> GAC Working Group to Examine the Protection of Geographic Names in any
> Future Expansion of gTLDs Meeting
>
> - Underserved region
>
> It would be good to talk to the GAC about the Underserved Regions WG
> Gov reps from many countries were flown in for the workshop in Abu
> Dhabi on the 28oct. Now listed as
>
> "Capacity Development Workshop for Middle East GAC Members"
>
> There is likely to be another in Panama
>
> I've requested multiple times to be a part of their list as NCUC focal
> point on underserved regions, no reply so far
>
> I would like to know how the dialogue w/ civil society is evolving on
> this program and how these gov members enroll
>
> It looks to me as there could be a risk of the underserved regions
> debaters being people who have no connection to the topic
>
> I bet most underserved regions would have suggestions on people to join
> this
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>   Media Change & Innovation Division, IPMZ
>   University of Zurich, Switzerland
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>   www.williamdrake.org
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