[NCUC-DISCUSS] email in response to ICANN blogpost

[Niels ten Oever]

Hi Seun,

On 06/28/2017 05:36 PM, Seun Ojedeji wrote:
> On Jun 28, 2017 5:25 PM, "Niels ten Oever" <lists at digitaldissidents.org
> <mailto:lists at digitaldissidents.org>> wrote:
> 
> 
>     On 06/28/2017 05:20 PM, Seun Ojedeji wrote:
>     > Hello,
>     >
>     > I am not a very active participant of the NCUC but but do follow
>     > happening and as a member I find this of interest to me. I read
>     through
>     > the blog post and it was a good read; it seem quite educating and
>     makes
>     > a lot of sense. I may understand why a certain service provider
>     may not
>     > like the content but am not sure I understand the reason why NCUC is
>     > making a statement against the blog post.
> 
>     Did you read the statement? Which argument did you not find compelling?
> 
> 
> SO: I quote the following from the article:
> "...... Tor serves many good purposes, but also attracts Dark Web users
> wanting to keep their activities or marketplaces
> secret /and /untraceable...."
> 
> It seem to me that the blog highlights the good and bad of a
> tool/service. However your statement seem to indicate that the blog only
> highlights the bad stuff. (ref: We sincerely hope you can correct the
> negative language in your article)
> 

There is an inherent difference between Tor and the Dark Web. In the
blog he says: Dark Web = Bad, Tor = Partially Good.

The dark web is simply not bad. That is the problem with the blog.

> 
>     >
>     > Overall, I know the views of members may not necessarily matter
>     here (as
>     > it seem the EC makes the decision), i will suggest that you provide
>     > authoritative source for the definition of "dark web" and "deep
>     web" in
>     > your statement.
> 
>     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_web
>     <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_web>
> 
> 
> SO: Good if that is authoritative then it may be good to include that as
> a reference in the statement. 
> 
> Regards
> 
> 
> 
>     >
>     > Regards
>     >
>     > On Jun 28, 2017 4:59 PM, "Niels ten Oever"
>     <lists at digitaldissidents.org <mailto:lists at digitaldissidents.org>
>     > <mailto:lists at digitaldissidents.org
>     <mailto:lists at digitaldissidents.org>>> wrote:
>     >
>     >     Hi all,
>     >
>     >     This morning the ICANN VP for Security and IT published a
>     blogpost which
>     >     appeared in this mornings newsletter, as well as on ICANNs website
>     >     concerning the Dark Web.
>     >
>     >   
>      https://www.icann.org/news/blog/the-dark-web-the-land-of-hidden-services
>     <https://www.icann.org/news/blog/the-dark-web-the-land-of-hidden-services>
>     >   
>      <https://www.icann.org/news/blog/the-dark-web-the-land-of-hidden-services
>     <https://www.icann.org/news/blog/the-dark-web-the-land-of-hidden-services>>
>     >
>     >     A number of us got together and drafted an email to the author
>     to give
>     >     him an opportunity to correct the falsehoods that are stated
>     in the
>     >     blog.
>     >
>     >     We have two options:
>     >
>     >     1. Send the letter on behalf of the NCUC
>     >     2. Sign the letter in your personal capacities.
>     >
>     >     Let's discuss it here, but feel free to already sign (as a
>     fallback
>     >     option).
>     >
>     >     You can find the draft letter here:
>     >
>     >   
>      https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xB19ycvHPH9TagLjEiAnOpbkLbx9jdD49y3CAKVLoac/edit
>     <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xB19ycvHPH9TagLjEiAnOpbkLbx9jdD49y3CAKVLoac/edit>
>     >   
>      <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xB19ycvHPH9TagLjEiAnOpbkLbx9jdD49y3CAKVLoac/edit
>     <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xB19ycvHPH9TagLjEiAnOpbkLbx9jdD49y3CAKVLoac/edit>>
>     >
>     >     Best,
>     >
>     >     Niels
>     >
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