[NCUC-DISCUSS] Another chat with the CEO/any comments?

Sun Jun 11 23:40:28 CEST 2017

Hi Farzaneh,

It sounds like you had a good and productive talk, I appreciate the topics
and your notes, as well as his responses.

I really like the first point as well. I know that a key concern is
visa-related. For instance, it's very easy to host a meeting in Istanbul
(visa-wise), but given the situation would it be prudent to hold it
elsewhere, for instance?

Best,
-Michael

On Sun, Jun 11, 2017 at 11:00 PM, farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>
wrote:

> All,
>
> Here is a very brief note of the 30 minute chat I had with Goran, please
> note that I made notes of what Goran said in my own language and they are
> my interpretations, so he did not necessarily say the exact words of this
> note.
>
> 1. Some have raised concerns about holding ICANN meetings in countries
> that do not respect human rights. Goran explained that at the moment the
> meeting criteria does not require ICANN to take into consideration not to
> hold ICANN meetings in oppressive countries and maybe it is time for the
> community to discuss the issue of whether to consider the human rights
> indicator of a country as a criterion for the choice of ICANN host country.
>
> 2. As to LAC engagement and why LAC can be a model for the rest of the
> world:My take was that the CEO initially means that stakeholder groups
> within a region should learn the dynamics of working together.  Regions and
> stakeholders in different regions have different working modalities.
> Various stakeholder groups in a region should be able to collaborate and
> work together and ultimately with the rest of the world's community. LAC's
> stakeholder groups have been successful in carrying out this collaboration.
>
> 3. As to ICANN becoming a global monitoring content regulator: Nothing has
> changed at ICANN with this regard. ICANN will not become a global content
> monitoring tool.
>
> 4. I also talked about remote participation. He acknowledged the
> shortcomings.
>
> 5. They are carrying out a visualization of the current ICANN processes (
> he mentioned this before at an NCUC meeting) which will be discussed with
> the community when it is finalized.
>
> Best
>
> Farzaneh
>
>
> Farzaneh
>
> On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 9:44 AM, hfaiedh ines <hfaiedh.ines2 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Great ! thank you Farzaneh, and enjoy your well-deserved break :)
>>
>> 2017-06-06 5:35 GMT-04:00 farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>:
>>
>>> All
>>>
>>> I had the 1:1  conversation with Goran on Friday. I am going away for a
>>> couple days. Will report back soon.
>>>
>>> On 30 May 2017 23:17, "farzaneh badii" <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks all,
>>>
>>> We still have time until Thursday if you want me to relay your
>>> messages/comments to the CEO. So far, I have gathered the points below
>>> (based on comments that came to my mind and members comments) but I might
>>> not get to discuss everything. If you want to add to these comments or want
>>> to prioritize one over another, let me know.
>>>
>>> 1. The CEO said: "The collaboration we have in Latin America & the
>>> Caribbean is a model for the rest of the world” @icann_president
>>> <https://twitter.com/icann_president> #ICANN
>>> <https://twitter.com/hashtag/ICANN?src=hash> at #LACNIC27
>>> <https://twitter.com/hashtag/LACNIC27?src=hash>.
>>> What does LAC do that other region don't do? Why is regional
>>> collaboration important at ICANN?
>>> Do regions need to collaborate better or do stakeholder groups need to
>>> collaborate better with those who hold different perspectives from their
>>> own sector?
>>>
>>> 2. Question regarding Compliance. More and more people are coming to
>>> ICANN to do more and more. It all sounds good: "anti-abuse," "law
>>> enforcement," "protecting copyright and trademark." But a lot of the
>>> requests amount to massive limitations on Free Expression and Free Speech
>>> -- and procedurally, bringing ICANN into the regulation of content.  The
>>> Consumer Trust Review Team recommendations, if adopted, would make ICANN
>>> into the greatest global monitor of content ever.
>>> Fadi flatly refused this role for ICANN - telling Washington, Wall
>>> Street and the world that ICANN manages and oversees the infrastructure
>>> of the Internet, but not what it is used for -- the roads, bridges and
>>> tunnels, but not what is being carried within a car (his analogy).
>>> With Goran, how does he see these enormous and very passionate pressures
>>> to bring ICANN into the global content monitoring (and takedown) debate?
>>> What will he do to protect the traditional lines and limits of ICANN? How
>>> does that "square" with the work of Jaime Hedlund in Compliance and its
>>> expanding role?
>>>
>>> 3. Remote Participation: Face-to-Face meetings challenges
>>>
>>> 4. CEO report to Board, More emphasis on the different role of
>>> Supporting Orgs and Advisory Committees and a bit of background on what
>>> each group does
>>>
>>> 5. A cross community session on General Data Protection Regulation: what
>>> NCUC thinks
>>>
>>> 6. Meeting B: Not only a Policy Forum but a Policy and Outreach Forum
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> Farzaneh
>>>
>>> On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 11:56 AM, Stephanie Perrin <
>>> stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Excellent question.
>>>>
>>>> Stephanie
>>>>
>>>> On 2017-05-24 08:26, Kathy Kleiman wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Farzi,
>>>>
>>>> Great question from Renata. My question has to do with Compliance. More
>>>> and more people are coming to ICANN to do more and more. It all sounds
>>>> good: "anti-abuse," "law enforcement," "protecting copyright and
>>>> trademark." But a lot of the requests amount to massive limitations on Free
>>>> Expression and Free Speech -- and procedurally, bringing ICANN into the
>>>> regulation of content.  The Consumer Trust Review Team recommendations, if
>>>> adopted, would make ICANN into the greatest global monitor of content ever.
>>>>
>>>> Fadi flatly refused this role for ICANN - telling Washington, Wall
>>>> Street and the world that ICANN manages and oversees the infrastructure of
>>>> the Internet, but not what it is used for -- the roads, bridges and
>>>> tunnels, but not what is being carried within a car (his analogy).
>>>>
>>>> With Goran, how does he see these enormous and very passionate
>>>> pressures to bring ICANN into the global content monitoring (and takedown)
>>>> debate? What will he do to protect the traditional lines and limits of
>>>> ICANN? How does that "square" with the work of Jaime Hedlund in Compliance
>>>> and its expanding role?
>>>>
>>>> Best and tx,
>>>>
>>>> Kathy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 5/24/2017 1:53 AM, Renata Aquino Ribeiro wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi
>>>>
>>>> So during LACNIC27 the CEO said the following
>>>>
>>>> "The collaboration we have in Latin America & the Caribbean is a model
>>>> for the rest of the world”
>>>>
>>>> https://twitter.com/ICANN/status/867012854846636032
>>>>
>>>> I'd then suggest the question:
>>>>
>>>> What is wrong with the world?
>>>>
>>>> Seriously, how can regions collaborate better and why is this
>>>> important in ICANN so how can we accomplish it?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
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