[NCUC-DISCUSS] Facebook as an obligatory requirement for being ICANN60 fellow

Arsène Tungali arsenebaguma at gmail.com
Fri Jul 28 06:11:45 CEST 2017


The issue has been cleared, which was more over of a wording problem and some misunderstanding along the line. I discussed with Siranush as well and received the same answer as Ayden (which was not a surprise because that's what i knew, having been a fellow). 

No one has ever been denied (and will never be) Fellowship because they don't have a Facebook account. 

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> On Jul 28, 2017, at 3:55 AM, Matthew Shears <matthew at intpolicy.com> wrote:
> 
> Could someone reach out to ICANN/Fellowship staff and get confirmation that this is indeed a requirement.  If so I agree it is inappropriate.
> 
>> On 28/07/2017 03:02, Stephanie Perrin wrote:
>> I totally agree, nobody should have to join Facebook.  They can find another way to communicate.  I am quite surprised, as I am also surprised to find that  Siranush Vardanyan is now ICANN staff. So how do we best argue with this policy?
>> 
>> Stephanie Perrin
>> 
>>> On 2017-07-27 15:48, Michael Karanicolas wrote:
>>> Hi Dina,
>>> 
>>> Thanks very much for bringing this to our attention. You raise a very
>>> interesting issue - and I agree, in principle, that signing up for
>>> Facebook should not be a required component of participating in an
>>> ICANN Fellowship program.
>>> 
>>> Would you feel comfortable forwarding or screenshot-ing the email in
>>> its entirety, just so we can see the full context as a means of
>>> informing this discussion?
>>> 
>>> In the interim, and while this discussion goes on, it may be useful if
>>> you wanted to raise your concerns directly with Siranush, if you
>>> haven't already. Your objection would seem to me to be a valid one, so
>>> it might be interesting to see how ICANN might respond.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> 
>>> Michael Karanicolas
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 4:23 PM, thomascovenant
>>> <thomascovenant at thomascovenant.org> wrote:
>>>> Hello,
>>>> 
>>>> I am writing about a general matter that can still be quite important to
>>>> some.
>>>> 
>>>> I respectfully disagree with making Facebook obligatory for ICANN
>>>> Fellowship program participation, yet it doesn't seem possible
>>>> to question this decision.
>>>> 
>>>> Further, the decision to deny fellowship to those who do not comply with
>>>> Facebook demand makes no sense to me.
>>>> 
>>>> I would welcome diverse participation of FOSS community, privacy
>>>> activists and ethical hacking communities in ICANN work. It can be very
>>>> valuable.
>>>> 
>>>> I don't want any single fellow be forced to compromise their principles
>>>> in order to make volunteer contribution to ICANN work (please read the
>>>> links below).
>>>> 
>>>> At the moment this is solved by forcing to register under a false name,
>>>> which is not the right thing to do on behalf of a large organization.
>>>> 
>>>> Alternative means of communication should be easily available to those
>>>> who ask for them, minor detail of communication platform should not be
>>>> the reason to discourage volunteer work.
>>>> 
>>>> We also have Chinese and Iranian fellows. Some countries impose FB
>>>> cencorship (wiki link below), which can also be an issue...
>>>> 
>>>> What are your thoughts on this general subject? And how a good solution
>>>> can be found?
>>>> 
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> 
>>>> Dina Solveig Jalkanen,
>>>> grateful for technical fellowship to ICANN60
>>>> 
>>>> Resources:
>>>> 
>>>> FB Censorship: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_of_Facebook
>>>> Some information about Facebook from Richard Stallman:
>>>> https://stallman.org/facebook.htm
>>>> http://www.salimvirani.com/facebook
>>>> 
>>>> From public Fellowship emails by Siranush Vardanyan
>>>> Fellowship Program Manager, Public Responsibility Support, ICANN:
>>>> 
>>>> "Last but not least: Social Media I will be creating an ICANN60 Facebook
>>>> page which is a required participation for this program.
>>>> Those who do not have Facebook page, please, create one, as you will be
>>>> asked to join ICANN60 Facebook page."
>>>> --
>>>> * * *
>>>> Friendly geek in Amsterdam, FSFE Fellow
>>>> https://wiki.techinc.nl/index.php/User:Thomascovenant
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