[NCUC-DISCUSS] NomCom Review

James Gannon james at cyberinvasion.net
Thu Nov 24 23:28:37 CET 2016


Do you believe that there are bribes being paid to nomcom members to vote for certain candidates then?
B
Because Im still trying to understand the statement "only a few constituencies can't be simply paid off.”

-james

From: Raoul Plommer <plommer at gmail.com<mailto:plommer at gmail.com>>
Date: Thursday 24 November 2016 at 21:00
To: James Gannon <james at cyberinvasion.net<mailto:james at cyberinvasion.net>>
Cc: NCUC-discuss <ncuc-discuss at lists.ncuc.org<mailto:ncuc-discuss at lists.ncuc.org>>, Johan Helsingius <julf at julf.com<mailto:julf at julf.com>>
Subject: Re: [NCUC-DISCUSS] NomCom Review


No, I'm saying that it's a valid reason to ask for a bigger representation.

On Nov 24, 2016 22:24, "James Gannon" <james at cyberinvasion.net<mailto:james at cyberinvasion.net>> wrote:
And translating that into our current discussion, as I asked in my previous question, does the then mean that you don’t feel our colleagues across the GNSO are motivated by anything other than profit, that there is no common ground for us to find, or that we cannot support them or they cannot support us on issues of ‘decency and humanity’?


-J

From: Ncuc-discuss <ncuc-discuss-bounces at lists.ncuc.org<mailto:ncuc-discuss-bounces at lists.ncuc.org>> on behalf of Raoul Plommer <plommer at gmail.com<mailto:plommer at gmail.com>>
Date: Thursday 24 November 2016 at 20:20
To: Johan Helsingius <julf at julf.com<mailto:julf at julf.com>>
Cc: NCUC-discuss <ncuc-discuss at lists.ncuc.org<mailto:ncuc-discuss at lists.ncuc.org>>
Subject: Re: [NCUC-DISCUSS] NomCom Review

I'm not saying that businesses and humanity couldn't be combined or that businesses aren't able to do the right thing, every now and then, but when it comes to making a choice between the two, businesses will choose profit. I don't see any around that.

-Raoul

On 24 November 2016 at 21:55, Johan Helsingius <julf at julf.com<mailto:julf at julf.com>> wrote:
On 24-11-16 20:12, Raoul Plommer wrote:
> Our motivation is to keep internet humane and decent. Others' is to make
> as much money off it, as possible. While it might be a binary way of
> looking at things, it's a very clear line to me.

Raoul,

I am pretty sure you are familiar with my past history. :)

I have spent a heck of a lot of time fighting to make the
internet not so much a humane and decent but free and equal place,
while at the same time making money off (or through) it. The
same goes for some of my friends who founded EFF.

        Julf


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