[NCUC-DISCUSS] [info] Draft New ICANN Bylaws Posted for Public Comment

Olévié Kouami olivierkouami at gmail.com
Sat Apr 23 14:30:56 CEST 2016


Hi !

Please, let me laugh a little bit.
The discussion make me remember my friends from technical community who use
to tell me that : "you, people from the NC communities like to talk and
discuss too much".
Finally, there is a "professional deformation" here. Hahaha !

My 2 cents,
Warm regards
-Olévié-


2016-04-22 20:34 GMT+01:00 Mouad GOUAIMA <mouad.gouaima at gmail.com>:

> Hi everyone,
>
> I agree with Karel, it is too late to change the by-laws so all we can do
> is to examine the verbiage of the by-laws to avoid any flaw that could
> cause a lack of understanding or improper use of the text.
>
> Regards.
>
> Mouad
>
> 2016-04-22 19:33 GMT+01:00 Karel Douglas <douglaskarel at gmail.com>:
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I read the cover note which  essentially provided that " any interested
>> party to review and provide feedback" on the draft. I'm sure no one expects
>> that it would be a substantive review on a new model ( under Calf law or
>> other) - the time has long past for those comments and I'm pretty sure
>> those points will not be considered.
>>
>> The extent of one's review is therefore confined to the new By-laws. It
>> is probably the last opportunity to critically examine , on a line by line
>> basis, the verbiage of the by-laws. In so doing we might discover several
>> errors or "gotcha" points.
>>
>> regards
>>
>> Karel
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 12:39 PM, avri doria <avri at apc.org> wrote:
>>
>>> hi,
>>>
>>> I disagree.  I think that is a slippery slope toward people thinking
>>> they can fine tune the proposal by discovering potential contradictions.
>>>
>>> avri
>>>
>>>
>>> On 22-Apr-16 10:53, Kathy Kleiman wrote:
>>> > +2 Milton, and you pointed out some truly disturbing problems about
>>> > two weeks ago.
>>> > As for me, I am shocked at the tremendous revision to the bylaws being
>>> > introduced.
>>> > I had thought we were adjusting accountability, not rewriting ICANN's
>>> > structure.
>>> > - Kathy
>>> >
>>> > On 4/22/2016 10:50 AM, Matthew Shears wrote:
>>> >> + 1 Milton
>>> >>
>>> >> On 4/22/2016 3:44 PM, Mueller, Milton L wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Yes, Aarti, we are not able to change the basic proposal.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> However, I wonder what would happen if someone discovers some major
>>> >>> “gotcha” that creates legal issues or some kinds of internal
>>> >>> contradictions. So the overall proposal must, I think, be assessed
>>> >>> in terms of its workability and not just in terms of its adherence
>>> >>> to the CCWG proposal.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> --MM
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> *From:*Ncuc-discuss [mailto:ncuc-discuss-bounces at lists.ncuc.org] *On
>>> >>> Behalf Of *Aarti Bhavana
>>> >>> *Sent:* Friday, April 22, 2016 3:20 AM
>>> >>> *To:* Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
>>> >>> *Cc:* ncuc-discuss at lists.ncuc.org
>>> >>> *Subject:* Re: [NCUC-DISCUSS] [info] Draft New ICANN Bylaws Posted
>>> >>> for Public Comment
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Hi Rafik,
>>> >>>
>>> >>> The way I understand it, we are only looking at whether the bylaws
>>> >>> adequately reflect the principles in the final proposal, that the
>>> >>> chartering organisations agreed to. This does not involve a
>>> >>> substantive discussion itself, as that has been closed. However, if
>>> >>> anyone thinks that the articulation of the bylaws haven't quite
>>> >>> captured the accountability-enhancing recommendations agreed upon in
>>> >>> the final proposal, then this is the perfect place to raise these
>>> >>> concerns.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Best,
>>> >>> Aarti
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On 22 Apr 2016 12:10 pm, "Rafik Dammak" <rafik.dammak at gmail.com
>>> >>> <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>     Hi everyone,
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>     I am sharing here the announcement about public comment period
>>> >>>     for the new ICANN bylaws challenges, which is part of the
>>> >>>     implementation for the accountability proposals. as you know the
>>> >>>     the accountability work is still ongoing starting with the
>>> >>>     so-called "workstream 2". it doesn't look like when you read the
>>> >>>     announcement, but this is another important step to implement
>>> >>>     accountability measures within ICANN.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>     hope that those from NCUC involved in the CCWG can give some
>>> >>>     background and explanations.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>     Best Regards,
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>     Rafik
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>     ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>     Original link:
>>> https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2016-04-21-en
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>       Draft New ICANN Bylaws Posted for 30-day Public Comment
>>> >>>
>>> >>>     Now that the IANA Stewardship Transition Coordination Group
>>> >>>     (ICG) and Cross Community Working Group on Enhancing ICANN
>>> >>>     Accountability (CCWG-Accountability) proposals have been
>>> >>>     transmitted to NTIA, one of the key implementation planning
>>> >>>     items is to amend the ICANN Bylaws to reflect the
>>> >>>     recommendations in those Proposals. The proposed draft of the
>>> >>>     New ICANN Bylaws was developed collaboratively by the ICANN
>>> >>>     legal team and the independent counsel hired to advise the
>>> >>>     CCWG-Accountability and the Cross Community Working Group to
>>> >>>     Develop an IANA Stewardship Transition Proposal on Naming
>>> >>>     Related Functions (CWG-Stewardship). In developing the Draft New
>>> >>>     ICANN Bylaws, the attorneys consulted a Bylaws Coordination
>>> >>>     Group populated with both community and Board members, as well
>>> >>>     as with the CWG-Stewardship and the CCWG-Accountability.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>     Both the independent counsel to the community groups and ICANN's
>>> >>>     General Counsel have confirmed that the Draft New ICANN Bylaws
>>> >>>     are consistent with the community proposals relating to the IANA
>>> >>>     Stewardship Transition.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>     These proposed draft Bylaws, are out for a 30-day public comment
>>> >>>     from 21 April – 21 May to allow any interested party to review
>>> >>>     and provide feedback. This timeline allows for comments to be
>>> >>>     analyzed and incorporated in time for a tentative 27 May
>>> >>>     adoption of the Bylaws by the ICANN Board.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>     NTIA has stated that it needs to see that changes to the Bylaws
>>> >>>     have been adopted sufficient to implement the Transition
>>> >>>     Proposals before NTIA can complete its review of the Transition
>>> >>>     Proposals. This public comment period is designed to meet that
>>> >>>     deadline.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>     Link:
>>> https://www.icann.org/public-comments/draft-new-bylaws-2016-04-21-en
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
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