[NCUC-DISCUSS] Announcement: New NCUC Travel Support Policy

Fri Sep 26 12:56:19 CEST 2014

+1 with both views

Cheers!

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On 26 Sep 2014 10:32, "Dorothy K. Gordon" <director-general at aiti-kace.com.gh>
wrote:

> This I totally agree with William, it is important that through the
> connection with the group people understand enough to be effective and they
> should be committed to using the meeting to support NCUC/NCSG. We need to
> avoid tourism and worse...
>
> best regards
>
> Dorothy K. Gordon
> Director-General
> Ghana-India Kofi Annan Centre of Excellence in ICT
> Mobile: 233 265005712
> Direct Line: 233 302 683579
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "William Drake" <wjdrake at gmail.com>
> To: "Seun Ojedeji" <seun.ojedeji at gmail.com>
> Cc: "NCUC-discuss" <ncuc-discuss at lists.ncuc.org>
> Sent: Friday, 26 September, 2014 7:31:28 AM GMT +00:00 Casablanca /
> Monrovia
> Subject: Re: [NCUC-DISCUSS] Announcement: New NCUC Travel Support Policy
>
>
> Hi
>
>
> Just to clarify: “Are actively and verifiably engaged in NCUC's work, for
> example constituency governance, NCUC/NCSG policy discussions, or GNSO
> Working Groups” does not mean only “participate in GNSO Working Groups.” It
> means actively and verifiably engaged in NCUC. While it’s really important
> that we get people involved in WGs, the EC will assess applications
> globally, rather than on a single criteria.
>
>
> Over the years there have been unsolicited requests for travel support
> from folks who are not involved in any identifiable manner, as well as
> cases of people traveling in ICANN-provided slots who didn’t participate
> much or at all in NCUC/NCSG activities at meetings. So the few
> opportunities we can provide, particularly via funds raised by volunteers,
> should go to people who are willing to be involved and contribute.
>
>
> Best,
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sep 26, 2014, at 4:13 AM, Seun Ojedeji < seun.ojedeji at gmail.com >
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Hello Amr,
>
> Now you have listed 3 options and the last option in your list IMO is one
> of the best ways to evaluate contributions/contributors; better than
> joining the meetings.
>
> Nevertheless it's okay to encourage people to participate in virtual
> meetings as well but not necessarily using it as a major criteria.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Cheers!
>
> sent from Google nexus 4
> kindly excuse brevity and typos.
> On 25 Sep 2014 21:22, "Amr Elsadr" < aelsadr at egyptig.org > wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Hi Seun and Dorothy,
>
>
> I take your points, and don’t mean to sound insensitive to regional
> problems such as connectivity. However, I would still favour this as a
> priority criteria if for no other reason than that noncommercial
> representation in GNSO policy development is markedly under-represented
> when compared to other stakeholders. Any measure taken to improve this is
> worthwhile IMHO. With the limited resources we have at our disposal, I
> wouldn’t blame our leadership for making hard choices when prioritising how
> these resources are allocated.
>
>
> For what it’s worth, there are three methods of participation in a working
> group. Joining calls is one of them, and this can be done by dialling into
> conference calls, requesting dial outs (although I appreciate that even
> telephone connectivity might pose a challenge), using the Adobe Connect
> Rooms (which can also substitute for joining a conference bridge if
> Internet connectivity is available and adequate) and communicating on the
> working groups’ email lists.
>
>
> Time zone difficulties associated with scheduling conference calls are
> commonly more challenging for those in Asia and the Americas, but usually
> more convenient for participants in Europe and Africa. Most calls are
> scheduled between UTC 13:00 and UTC 19:00.
>
>
> I would personally be interested in hearing if there are members out there
> who are interested and willing to join working groups, but are having
> trouble doing so. I’d be happy to at least try to help to overcome the
> difficulties being faced.
>
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> Amr
>
>
> On Sep 25, 2014, at 8:58 PM, Seun Ojedeji < seun.ojedeji at gmail.com >
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> It's good I am not the first person to say this. Dorothy has properly
> captured what I had in mind. [1]. I am sure it will not be difficult to
> know if a member participate in PDP or not without making attention virtual
> meeting compulsory.
>
> Cheers!
> 1. @Amr connectivity is still a challenge back home, please come back home
> ;)
> sent from Google nexus 4
> kindly excuse brevity and typos.
> On 25 Sep 2014 18:54, "Dorothy K. Gordon" <
> director-general at aiti-kace.com.gh > wrote:
>
>
> I am happy with the philosophy behind the travel policy but please note
> that it is easier for some nationals to participate in the conference call
> than for others. That is simply to do with the platform under which
> participation is managed as well as time zone issues. This would be a
> factor in African participation.
>
> best regards
>
> Dorothy K. Gordon
> Director-General
> Ghana-India Kofi Annan Centre of Excellence in ICT
> Mobile: 233 265005712
> Direct Line: 233 302 683579
> Website: www.aiti-kace.com.gh
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Stefania Milan" < Stefania.Milan at EUI.eu >
> To: "Amr Elsadr" < aelsadr at egyptig.org >, "NCUC-discuss" <
> ncuc-discuss at lists.ncuc.org >
> Sent: Thursday, 25 September, 2014 5:49:32 PM GMT +00:00 Casablanca /
> Monrovia
> Subject: Re: [NCUC-DISCUSS] Announcement: New NCUC Travel Support Policy
>
> Hi Amr
> I am happy to see there is support to the new travel support policy. Your
> suggestion re: attendance to conference calls is good, and we will take it
> into account in evaluation the proposals.
>
> Everyone, for future reference, please note that the travel support policy
> is now online, under a dedicated tab of the "governance" section of the
> NCUC website: http://www.ncuc.org/governance/travel-policy/
>
> Thanks for the support, it is important to know we are going in the right
> direction. I, too, believe that this will increase active participation and
> inclusiveness.
>
> Best, Stefania
>
>
>
> ________________________________________
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> ncuc-discuss-bounces at lists.ncuc.org > per conto di Amr Elsadr <
> aelsadr at egyptig.org >
> Inviato: giovedì 25 settembre 2014 15.11
> A: NCUC-discuss
> Oggetto: Re: [NCUC-DISCUSS] Announcement: New NCUC Travel Support Policy
>
> Hey Bill,
>
> This is truly awesome. A hearty “well-done” to you and the rest of the
> NCUC EC. This is certainly a wonderful initiative that will help NCUC
> members involved in policy work get support from the constituency enabling
> their participation to be more effective.
>
> I was wondering if it is possible to suggest some additions to the
> criteria:
>
> On Sep 25, 2014, at 11:26 AM, William Drake < wjdrake at gmail.com > wrote:
>
> [SNIP]
>
> > At least two months prior to each ICANN meeting, the NCUC Executive
> Committee (EC) will send a call for proposals to the ncuc-discuss list
> inviting applications.
> >
> > To receive NCUC travel support, applicants must be NCUC members in good
> standing who:
> >
> > 1. Voted in the previous year’s NCUC election, if eligible at the time;
> >
> > 2. Are actively and verifiably engaged in NCUC's work, for example
> constituency governance, NCUC/NCSG policy discussions, or GNSO Working
> Groups;
>
> Perhaps some sort of criteria to be added here regarding the level of
> participation in working groups, like the applicant's attendance record in
> working group calls?
>
> > 3. Need to be at a given meeting because the above mentioned work will
> be advanced there;
> >
> > 4. Agree to participate in the NCUC, NCSG and GNSO meetings to be held
> during the meeting;
> >
> > 5. Agree to write a brief post-trip report for the NCUC website
> reflecting on the meeting’s main developments of relevance to NCUC;
> >
> > 6. Did not receive NCUC funding to attend the immediately previous ICANN
> meeting, unless exceptional circumstances require their presence at two
> consecutive meetings.
>
> Or a lack of other applications meeting the other requirements? My
> thoughts here are if there is a good application for someone who has
> attended an immediately previous meeting, with no other applications that
> meet the other criteria. Although this might fall under the provision of
> exceptional circumstances, so may not be necessary.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Amr
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