[NCUC-DISCUSS] NCUC involvement ICANN /Internet Governance Initiatives (1): 1Net

Wed Jan 8 15:20:04 CET 2014

Absolutely. I share your views and expectations regarding participation in
1net, Bill.
Hugs
M

On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 8:45 AM, William Drake <wjdrake at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi
>
> Thanks to Marilia and Remmy for the replies.
>
> On Jan 7, 2014, at 11:33 PM, Marilia Maciel <mariliamaciel at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hi Bill,
>
> Thank so much for this sequence of messages that help to keep us updated.
> It has been an immense amount of information, thank you for taking the time
> to summarize and make key info more palatable.
>
> On the 1net discussions, I just would like to make a quick observation.
> Since Bali, the iStar coalition has framed the debate as "let's do
> something to preserve the current model, otherwise governments will control
> the Internet". This idea has been repeated on the list as this
> multistakeholder x intergov tension you mentioned.
>
>
> I just want to offer one thought to make sure my intention was understood.
>  Participating in MS dialogue on the 1net platform doesn’t require that
> anyone agree with anyone else involved there, so in suggesting that NCUC
> members consider engaging I wasn’t also suggesting that anyone should leave
> their views at the door or drink someone else’s Kool Aid.  The platform’s a
> good place to have it with others on intergovernmentalism and all else.  I
> myself have been rather frustrated by some of the views expressed by some
> in the TC on the 1net list, i.e. the governance denial/it’s all just
> technocratic coordination theme, but I’m happy to see debate across the
> silos in a way that hasn’t happened on the CS-dominated lists like
> governance and Best Bits.   And in fact, there are some interesting areas
> of convergence emerging, at least at the level of principle; globalization
> of the USG role seems to be one between many in CS and the TC.  Something
> to build on...
>
> Nevertheless, I think that it would be important to also include on the
> dominant narrative three points:
>
> a) The IG regime is not perfect. It had disfunctionalities pointed out
> even before Snowden. So what we should do is not to conservatively try to
> preserve the regime, but to creatively try to improve it;
>
> b) The danger of dominance from governments does not necessarily come from
> UN fora with potentially enlarged competences. There is a worse problem of
> securitization of the agenda coupled with massive and pervasive
> surveillance. The US is doing it efficiently, other countries would like to
> have the same capabilities. Maybe we are barking at the wrong tree when we
> focus so much attention at things like plenipot. I am not saying it is not
> important, but a wiser allocation of energy is maybe needed;
>
> c) There is too much focus on the problem of "intergovernamentalization"
> of the regime, but not much attention on its privatization. De facto
> regulation of our lives (our privacy, our freedom of expression) by private
> companies is a problem. Opaque private agreements between network operators
> and their impact on costs is a problem. Opaque development of standards
> (which embody policy decisions) is a problem. Increasingly proprietary
> standards and lack of interoperability as well. So I am not impressed that
> many private actors are resistant to changes. Maybe non-comercial actors
> could bring more balance to debate: too much govts can be bad, but too much
> privatization may be negative as well.
>
> Thanks again for that. Very useful.
>
>
> Sure, and thanks for contributing to debate here and in NCUC more
> generally!
>
> Cheers
>
> BD
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 3:09 PM, William Drake <wjdrake at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> As you may know, since the Bali IGF in October and the ICANN meeting in
>> Buenos Aires in November,  there has been an enormous flurry of debate and
>> activity around ICANN's role in global Internet governance processes,
>> occasioned in particular by Fadi's various initiatives.   These are all
>> working on very tight and hysteria-producing time frames and revealing
>> various cross-cutting fissures in the ICANN community.  Broadly speaking,
>> we can say that at present, NCUC/NCSG and At Large/ALAC have been the main
>> supporters of the main lines of these initiatives, e.g. building on the I*
>> organizations Montevideo Declaration calling inter alia for globalization
>> of the USG roles and ICANN
>> http://www.icann.org/en/news/announcements/announcement-07oct13-en.htm,
>> while much of the various business grouping within ICANN remain reluctant
>> or even opposed.   Hopefully through continuing dialogue etc. some minds
>> will change and we can at a minimum get broad agreement on positions
>> supporting 1) the multistakeholder model vs. various Intergovernmental
>> gambits (e.g. three’s much concern about the ITU’s Plenipotentiary
>> Conference in the Autumn); 2) a potential multistakeholder declaration of
>> global IG principles; and 3) structured and forward moving discussion of
>> globalization.  But we’ll see.
>>
>> A few minutes ago I forwarded an invite to a webinar on the fourth of
>> Fadi's strategy panels.  Below and in subsequent messages I’ll mention
>> other initiatives in which some NCUC members are currently involved, and in
>> which one would think other members and indeed the constituency as a whole
>> might want to engage.  (And obviously, those of you who are already tuned
>> into all this, feel free to delete.)
>>
>> */1Net   *www.1net.org
>>
>> This is a new platform initiated by the technical community in Bali to
>> foster multistakeholder dialogue between itself and business, civil
>> society, and academia.  The near-term goal is to feed into the upcoming
>> conference in Brazil (see next message)—both positions and people to
>> populate the conference committees.  The longer-term goal is to sustain
>> ongoing MS dialogue, coordination and collaboration geared toward
>> preserving multistakeholderism in the face of intergovernmental challenges
>> etc.
>>
>> 1Net has appointed a Steering Committee (which may be relabeled a
>> Coordination Comm, we’ll see).  Consultations, some of them painful, have
>> been underway within the respective stakeholder groups to select reps to
>> the SC, and yesterday its list went live with the following
>> representatives, which includes multiple NCUC members (in bold)
>>
>> On Jan 6, 2014, at 1:59 PM, Adiel Akplogan <adiel at afrinic.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>> So far we have the following people representing Business, Civil Society
>> and Academia on the list:
>>
>> -----< Business >------
>> Aparna Sridhar
>> David Fares
>> Marilyn Cade
>> Sarah Wynn-Williams
>> Paul Mitchell
>>
>> ------< Civil Society >-------
>> Anja Kovacs
>> *Anriette Esterhuysen*
>> *Vladimir Radunovik *
>>
>> *Rafik Dammak Joana Varon *
>>
>> ------< Academia >-------
>> Angela Daly
>> Ramesh Subramanian
>> *Stefania Milan *
>> *William Drake *
>> Boubakar Barry
>>
>> The technical community is still in the process of selecting its
>> representatives and we are expecting them to join us during the second part
>> of January (as per their process timeline).
>>
>>
>>
>> Anyone can join the 1net discuss mailing list, which now has over 600
>> people and is generating massive amounts of mail, some of it quite
>> interesting, some of it eminently skippable (filters are your friend).  It
>> would be great to see more NCUC members involved in the conversation, and
>> 1net more generally as it takes shape in the months ahead….. *http://1net-mail.1net.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>> <http://1net-mail.1net.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss>*
>>
>> Best
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
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> --
> *Marília Maciel*
> Pesquisadora Gestora
> Centro de Tecnologia e Sociedade - FGV Direito Rio
>
> Researcher and Coordinator
> Center for Technology & Society - FGV Law School
> http://direitorio.fgv.br/cts
>
> DiploFoundation associate
> www.diplomacy.edu
>
>
>
>
> ***********************************************
> William J. Drake
> International Fellow & Lecturer
>   Media Change & Innovation Division, IPMZ
>   University of Zurich, Switzerland
> Chair, Noncommercial Users Constituency,
>   ICANN, www.ncuc.org
> william.drake at uzh.ch (direct), wjdrake at gmail.com (lists),
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>
>

-- 
*Marília Maciel*
Pesquisadora Gestora
Centro de Tecnologia e Sociedade - FGV Direito Rio

Researcher and Coordinator
Center for Technology & Society - FGV Law School
http://direitorio.fgv.br/cts

DiploFoundation associate
www.diplomacy.edu
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