[NCUC-DISCUSS] Well this is interesting
Nicolas Adam
nickolas.adam at gmail.com
Mon Feb 17 19:39:21 CET 2014
I support Avri as a plan A,
but urge to act responsibly so that either Avri or the [described] hard
working ex-hippy with a sense of social justice turned up winning.
I suppose that this means figuring out if they can both be candidates
and obtain this result, or if this result is dependent upon only one of
them running. Then I support playing it by supporting Avri in the hope
ISPC backs her out but keeping in mind that plan B is better than what
happened last time.
Since it would be a very poor negotiating stance if you all would +1 me
(announcing our flexibility isn't a great tactic and I gather this list
can be searched), please refrain from doing so ;)
Nicolas
On 17/02/2014 10:47 AM, Balleste, Roy wrote:
>
> +1
>
> I also support and agree with Amr. Which means support for Avri.
>
>
> Roy
>
>
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> *From:* ncuc-discuss-bounces at lists.ncuc.org
> <ncuc-discuss-bounces at lists.ncuc.org> on behalf of Amr Elsadr
> <aelsadr at egyptig.org>
> *Sent:* Monday, February 17, 2014 7:57 AM
> *To:* Maria Farrell
> *Cc:* William Drake; NCUC-discuss
> *Subject:* Re: [NCUC-DISCUSS] Well this is interesting
> Yeah..., I think Mikey's, as an individual, is great. And as Bill
> pointed out below, dealing with the ISPCP is not exactly the same as
> the other two constituencies of the CSG. For example, the two
> councillors of the ISPC voted against a motion during the council
> meeting in Buenos Aires when the councillors of the two other CSG
> constituencies voted for. I did not find that surprising and hope for
> more of it in the future. I often find the input of their members to
> be refreshing compared to folks in the BC and IPC.
>
> Having said that, I was very much in favour of Avri being a candidate
> during the last round of elections of the BoDs. After working
> considerably closer with her this past year and a half, my faith in
> her has only been reinforced. I think Avri would be an amazing board
> member.
>
> Losing Avri's input on the council would be a shame, but I'm sure her
> efforts on the Board would be well worth it.
>
> Just my thoughts.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Amr
>
> On Feb 17, 2014, at 10:04 AM, Maria Farrell <maria.farrell at gmail.com
> <mailto:maria.farrell at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>> Very interesting indeed. Funny, I was wondering if we should consider
>> sounding Mikey out on whether he'd be interested in a run -
>> notwithstanding our own great candidates.
>>
>> He's very independent and thoughtful. The downsides I see are: I'd
>> prefer our own candidate, if Avri wants to take another hack at it
>> (or indeed anyone else of ours), and Mikey would be a real loss to
>> the COuncil.
>>
>> This is some food for thought.
>>
>>
>> On 17 February 2014 07:51, William Drake <william.drake at uzh.ch
>> <mailto:william.drake at uzh.ch>> wrote:
>>
>> A friendly, earnest, hard working, ex hippy businessperson ICANN
>> veteran may be willing to stand for election to the board seat?
>> Mikey's ISPC, which is often not on exactly the same page with
>> IPC and BC. If he ran and had those two votes and NCUSG threw
>> its support to him, he'd win. If instead he and IPSC could be
>> convinced that an NCUCer could as easily reflect their concerns
>> on the board, Avri would win. If all three run---that throws the
>> math into the land of variable geometry.
>>
>> Change could happen?
>>
>> See bottom
>>
>> Bill
>>
>> Begin forwarded message:
>>
>>> *From: *john at crediblecontext.com <mailto:john at crediblecontext.com>
>>> *Subject: **About that ICANN Board Seat 14 - Non Contracted
>>> Party House*
>>> *Date: *February 17, 2014 at 2:10:57 AM GMT+1
>>> *To: *"Mike O'Connor" <mike at haven2.com
>>> <mailto:mike at haven2.com>>, Glen_de_Saint_Géry <Glen at icann.org
>>> <mailto:Glen at icann.org>>
>>> *Cc: *"elisa.cooper at markmonitor.com
>>> <mailto:elisa.cooper at markmonitor.com>"
>>> <elisa.cooper at markmonitor.com
>>> <mailto:elisa.cooper at markmonitor.com>>, "Kristina\ Rosette"
>>> <krosette at cov.com <mailto:krosette at cov.com>>, "Tony Holmes"
>>> <tonyarholmes at btinternet.com
>>> <mailto:tonyarholmes at btinternet.com>>, "Rafik Dammak"
>>> <rafik.dammak at gmail.com <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>>,
>>> "William Drake" <william.drake at uzh.ch
>>> <mailto:william.drake at uzh.ch>>, "marie-laure Lemineur
>>> \(mllemineur at gmail.com <mailto:mllemineur at gmail.com>\)"
>>> <mllemineur at gmail.com <mailto:mllemineur at gmail.com>>, "Reed,
>>> Daniel A \(dan-reed at uiowa.edu <mailto:dan-reed at uiowa.edu>\)"
>>> <dan-reed at uiowa.edu <mailto:dan-reed at uiowa.edu>>, "Jen Wolfe
>>> \(jwolfe at wolfedomain.com <mailto:jwolfe at wolfedomain.com>\)"
>>> <jwolfe at wolfedomain.com <mailto:jwolfe at wolfedomain.com>>,
>>> "gabrielaszlak at gmail.com <mailto:gabrielaszlak at gmail.com>"
>>> <gabrielaszlak at gmail.com <mailto:gabrielaszlak at gmail.com>>,
>>> "Winterfeldt, Brian J.\ \(brian.winterfeldt at kattenlaw.com
>>> <mailto:brian.winterfeldt at kattenlaw.com>\)"
>>> <brian.winterfeldt at kattenlaw.com
>>> <mailto:brian.winterfeldt at kattenlaw.com>>, "Petter Rindforth
>>> \(petter.rindforth at fenixlegal.eu
>>> <mailto:petter.rindforth at fenixlegal.eu>\)\
>>> \(petter.rindforth at fenixlegal.eu
>>> <mailto:petter.rindforth at fenixlegal.eu>\)"
>>> <petter.rindforth at fenixlegal.eu
>>> <mailto:petter.rindforth at fenixlegal.eu>>, "Novoa,\ Osvaldo"
>>> <onovoa at Antel.com.uy <mailto:onovoa at Antel.com.uy>>, "Avri Doria"
>>> <avri at acm.org <mailto:avri at acm.org>>, "Amr Elsadr\
>>> \(aelsadr at egyptig.org <mailto:aelsadr at egyptig.org>\)"
>>> <aelsadr at egyptig.org <mailto:aelsadr at egyptig.org>>, "David Cake\
>>> \(dave at difference.com.au <mailto:dave at difference.com.au>\)"
>>> <dave at difference.com.au <mailto:dave at difference.com.au>>,
>>> "Magaly Pazello\ \(magaly.pazello at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:magaly.pazello at gmail.com>\)" <magaly.pazello at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:magaly.pazello at gmail.com>>, "Klaus Stoll"
>>> <kdrstoll at gmail.com <mailto:kdrstoll at gmail.com>>, "Maria
>>> Farrell" <maria.farrell at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:maria.farrell at gmail.com>>, "Marika\ Konings"
>>> <marika.konings at icann.org <mailto:marika.konings at icann.org>>,
>>> "gnso-secs at icann.org <mailto:gnso-secs at icann.org>"
>>> <gnso-secs at icann.org <mailto:gnso-secs at icann.org>>, "Erika
>>> Randall" <erika.randall at icann.org
>>> <mailto:erika.randall at icann.org>>, "Bill\ Graham"
>>> <bill.graham at icann.org <mailto:bill.graham at icann.org>>
>>>
>>> Well, nothing like getting things started with a bang.
>>> I was going to ask Bill if he even wanted to remain in seat 14.
>>> If he did/does, then we might have merely had a party at which
>>> we all congratulate ourselves for having made a good choice last
>>> time and re-commit.
>>> But with Mikey throwing his hat into the ring, I think that
>>> opens up the process to a host of possibilities, which could
>>> include Bill's re-election or the emergence of all manner of
>>> candidate, with the ultimate successful nominee carrrying the
>>> hopes and dreams of all the house.
>>> See you all in Singapore!
>>> Cheers,
>>> Berard
>>>
>>> --------- Original Message ---------
>>> Subject: Re: ICANN Board Seat 14 - Non Contracted Party House
>>> From: "Mike O'Connor" <mike at haven2.com <mailto:mike at haven2.com>>
>>> Date: 2/16/14 3:55 pm
>>> To: "Glen_de_Saint_Géry" <Glen at icann.org
>>> <mailto:Glen at icann.org>>
>>> Cc: "elisa.cooper at markmonitor.com
>>> <mailto:elisa.cooper at markmonitor.com>"
>>> <elisa.cooper at markmonitor.com
>>> <mailto:elisa.cooper at markmonitor.com>>, "Kristina Rosette"
>>> <krosette at cov.com <mailto:krosette at cov.com>>, "Tony Holmes"
>>> <tonyarholmes at btinternet.com
>>> <mailto:tonyarholmes at btinternet.com>>, "Rafik Dammak"
>>> <rafik.dammak at gmail.com <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>>,
>>> "William Drake" <william.drake at uzh.ch
>>> <mailto:william.drake at uzh.ch>>, "marie-laure Lemineur
>>> (mllemineur at gmail.com <mailto:mllemineur at gmail.com>)"
>>> <mllemineur at gmail.com <mailto:mllemineur at gmail.com>>, "Reed,
>>> Daniel A (dan-reed at uiowa.edu <mailto:dan-reed at uiowa.edu>)"
>>> <dan-reed at uiowa.edu <mailto:dan-reed at uiowa.edu>>, "Jen Wolfe
>>> (jwolfe at wolfedomain.com <mailto:jwolfe at wolfedomain.com>)"
>>> <jwolfe at wolfedomain.com <mailto:jwolfe at wolfedomain.com>>,
>>> "John Berard" <john at crediblecontext.com
>>> <mailto:john at crediblecontext.com>>, "gabrielaszlak at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:gabrielaszlak at gmail.com>" <gabrielaszlak at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:gabrielaszlak at gmail.com>>, "Winterfeldt, Brian J.
>>> (brian.winterfeldt at kattenlaw.com
>>> <mailto:brian.winterfeldt at kattenlaw.com>)"
>>> <brian.winterfeldt at kattenlaw.com
>>> <mailto:brian.winterfeldt at kattenlaw.com>>, "Petter Rindforth
>>> (petter.rindforth at fenixlegal.eu
>>> <mailto:petter.rindforth at fenixlegal.eu>)
>>> (petter.rindforth at fenixlegal.eu
>>> <mailto:petter.rindforth at fenixlegal.eu>)"
>>> <petter.rindforth at fenixlegal.eu
>>> <mailto:petter.rindforth at fenixlegal.eu>>, "Novoa, Osvaldo"
>>> <onovoa at Antel.com.uy <mailto:onovoa at Antel.com.uy>>, "Avri
>>> Doria" <avri at acm.org <mailto:avri at acm.org>>, "Amr Elsadr
>>> (aelsadr at egyptig.org <mailto:aelsadr at egyptig.org>)"
>>> <aelsadr at egyptig.org <mailto:aelsadr at egyptig.org>>, "David
>>> Cake (dave at difference.com.au
>>> <mailto:dave at difference.com.au>)" <dave at difference.com.au
>>> <mailto:dave at difference.com.au>>, "Magaly Pazello
>>> (magaly.pazello at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:magaly.pazello at gmail.com>)"
>>> <magaly.pazello at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:magaly.pazello at gmail.com>>, "Klaus Stoll"
>>> <kdrstoll at gmail.com <mailto:kdrstoll at gmail.com>>, "Maria
>>> Farrell" <maria.farrell at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:maria.farrell at gmail.com>>, "Marika Konings"
>>> <marika.konings at icann.org
>>> <mailto:marika.konings at icann.org>>, "gnso-secs at icann.org
>>> <mailto:gnso-secs at icann.org>" <gnso-secs at icann.org
>>> <mailto:gnso-secs at icann.org>>, "Erika Randall"
>>> <erika.randall at icann.org <mailto:erika.randall at icann.org>>,
>>> "Bill Graham" <bill.graham at icann.org
>>> <mailto:bill.graham at icann.org>>
>>>
>>> hi all,
>>> thanks for this Glen. i've added Bill Graham in to this
>>> reply, just because i can. :-)
>>> i'm a bit puzzled by where all this stands. Avri and i had
>>> a great exchange on the Council list that kindof bears on
>>> this topic, which i was going to link to, but i don't have
>>> permission to access the GNSO Council list archive. <shrug>
>>> i can't quite tell who gives Glen the approval to proceed on
>>> the schedule she's describing. since that 3-March date is
>>> coming pretty soon, is there anybody who objects? sorry ---
>>> i have a keen eye for power-vacuums and feel more
>>> comfortable just throwing questions like that to the whole
>>> gang. if a food-fight ensues, you can Blame Mikey.
>>> i'm assuming that Councilors vote on the instruction of
>>> their respective constituents, but again i could use a
>>> little guidance on that.
>>> and finally, just to keep cards on the table, i'm
>>> contemplating a run for the seat and would like to hear pros
>>> and cons from folks either on this thread or off.
>>> thanks,
>>> mikey
>>>
>>> On Feb 16, 2014, at 5:04 AM, Glen de Saint Géry
>>> <Glen at icann.org <mailto:Glen at icann.org>> wrote:
>>>
>>> To : Non-Contracted Party House
>>>
>>>
>>> Dear All,???
>>>
>>>
>>> ICANN Board Seat 14 is currently held by Bill Graham.
>>> His term is set to expire at the 2014 Annual General
>>> Meeting, which is scheduled to be held on 16 October
>>> 2014 in Los Angeles. According to the ICANN Bylaws, the
>>> Non-Contracted Party House shall select a representative
>>> to fill Board Seat 14, and must give the ICANN Secretary
>>> written notice of its selection at least 6 months before
>>> the date of the beginning of the term for the seat. As a
>>> result, the Non-Contracted Party House selection for
>>> Board Seat 14 must be provided to the ICANN Secretary by
>>> no later than April 16, 2014. (Refer to Bylaws Art. VI,
>>> Section 8(4)
>>> <http://www.icann.org/en/about/governance/bylaws#VI-8>,
>>> Art. X, Section 3(6)
>>> <http://www.icann.org/en/about/governance/bylaws#X-3>)
>>>
>>>
>>> Each House is responsible for establishing its own
>>> internal procedures for nominations, interviews, voting,
>>> and candidate selection; however, those processes must
>>> be documented and forwarded to the GNSO Council for
>>> inclusion as ANNEXES to the GNSO Operating Procedures
>>> <http://gnso.icann.org/en/council/op-procedures-13jun13-en.pdf>.
>>> If a House subsequently elects to alter its procedures,
>>> such amendments must be submitted to the GNSO Council
>>> before becoming effective so that the procedures
>>> accurately reflect the actual processes and activities
>>> performed by each House in selecting its candidate.
>>> (Refer to Section 2.4 of the Operating Procedures
>>> <http://gnso.icann.org/en/council/op-procedures-13jun13-en.pdf>.)
>>>
>>>
>>> Here are some suggestions for a voting schedule. Staff
>>> would be happy to help with the elections if the NCPH so
>>> wishes.
>>>
>>>
>>> . Nomination period -- nominations to be made by
>>> Councilors from the NCPH:
>>> open Monday 3 March, close Monday, 17 March 2014.
>>> Candidates to be announced by staff on Wednesday 19,
>>> March 2014. (if the NCPH wants this)
>>>
>>> This provides a period, during the ICANN meeting in
>>> Singapore to interview and interact with the nominees
>>>
>>>
>>> . First round of voting: open Friday, 28 March, close
>>> Thursday, 3 April 2014.
>>>
>>> Electronic Ballot which could be sent by the GNSO
>>> Secretariat to the Councilors, using the ICANN process
>>> which is highly accurate and used for all official votes
>>> by the GNSO Council. Any candidate receiving at least 8
>>> votes wins. Results could be tabulated by the GNSO
>>> Secretariat and announced Friday, 5 April 2014
>>>
>>>
>>> (Since the slate is small (13) this can be managed at a
>>> critical time after an ICANN meeting when people go on
>>> holiday or back to day jobs)
>>>
>>>
>>> . Second round of voting (if needed): open Saturday
>>> April 6, close Wednesday, 9 April 2014.
>>> Run-off between the two leading candidates from first
>>> round. Either candidate receiving at least 8 votes
>>> wins. Results to be announced Thursday, 10 April 2014
>>>
>>>
>>> Some considerations :
>>>
>>>
>>> Call for a special Council meeting either on Thursday
>>> 10 or Monday 14 April 2014 for the Council to confirm
>>> the selection. Ideally, the next Council meeting, 27
>>> February 2014 is the opportunity to make this request.
>>>
>>>
>>> This tight schedule will make it difficult for a third
>>> round of voting
>>>
>>>
>>> . Third round of voting (if needed): open Friday, 11
>>> April, close Tuesday, 15 April 2014. This does not
>>> leave time for the Council to confirm the vote.
>>>
>>> Run-off between the two leading candidates from first
>>> round. Either candidate receiving at least 8 votes
>>> wins. Results to be announced Wednesday, 16 April 2014
>>> and transmitted to ICANN Secretary by the GNSO Council
>>> chair.
>>>
>>>
>>> Please let me know if you need any assistance with the
>>> elections.
>>>
>>> Thank you very much.
>>>
>>> Kind regards,
>>>
>>>
>>> Glen
>>>
>>>
>>> Glen de Saint Géry
>>>
>>> GNSO Secretariat
>>>
>>> gnso.secretariat at gnso.icann.org
>>> <mailto:gnso.secretariat at gnso.icann.org>
>>>
>>> http://gnso.icann.org <http://gnso.icann.org/>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> PHONE: 651-647-6109 <tel:651-647-6109>, FAX: 866-280-2356
>>> <tel:866-280-2356>, WEB: www.haven2.com
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>>> Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn, etc.)
>>>
>>
>> ***********************************************
>> William J. Drake
>> International Fellow & Lecturer
>> Media Change & Innovation Division, IPMZ
>> University of Zurich, Switzerland
>> Chair, Noncommercial Users Constituency,
>> ICANN, www.ncuc.org <http://www.ncuc.org/>
>> william.drake at uzh.ch <mailto:william.drake at uzh.ch> (direct),
>> wjdrake at gmail.com <mailto:wjdrake at gmail.com> (lists),
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