[NCUC-DISCUSS] Non Contracted Parties House Election Procedures 2011

Thu Feb 13 21:48:59 CET 2014

Hi - I really would like us to give an alternative candidate to Bill. I
have found him antagonistic to NCUC, rather than supportive. For
example, in our dealings on the creation of NPOC, in the TMCH - at no
time did I sense he was coming to us and asking for our views and
likewise in my term on GNSO, I did not get a strong sense of his
engagement with us. But perhaps I am being selective in my memory - for
example did he attend any of our events? On the politics of it, my guess
is that some of these also relate to how the Board works as a whole -
but Avri and others will know more about that than me.
As for who, wow  - a re-match with Avri could be interesting :) But
first let us agree on putting up an alternative - I think that is good
for democracy.

Joy

On 14/02/2014 7:05 a.m., William Drake wrote:
> Hi
>
> On Feb 13, 2014, at 5:28 PM, Avri Doria <avri at ACM.ORG> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Just checking:
>>
>> Are you suggesting that each of NCUC and NPOC pick someone and then we have a NCSG primary for its pick?
> Nope, I just said we need to decide if we want to support a candidate or just roll with Bill.  The modalities of working out the former with NPOC would be a separate later step. 
>> Not that I am recommending it, might be interesting though.
>>
>> What we do not have is a process for picking a candidate.  Last time, I talk to bunch of people and put myself forward - no one objected (seeing how i did, perhaps they should have - strategically I mean)
>>
>> In any case I think this is the sort of thing that NCSG EC/PC had better figure out quickly.
>>
>> In any case, I plan to put my self forward again for the NCSG/NCUC consideration for a rematch - I won the first ballot, he the second, who would win the third?
> Ah?  Seriously? That would be fun…
>> Though perhaps we could find a better strategic choice. We need a candidate who can get some of the CSG votes, otherwise we don't stand a chance.
> Well, there is that…
>
> So…what are we saying here?
>
> BD
>
>> Also while a candidate can sometimes count on SG support in the first round of an election, it is very hard to hold all of the SG votes in a second round.  I think this is a general rule of such rounds of voting.  In that case the one with the stronger unifying force tends to be persuasive.
>>
>> avri
>>
>>
>> On 13-Feb-14 06:14, William Drake wrote:
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> Among the many things we need to do is decide who we would like to
>>> represent the non contracted house party on the ICANN board.  The
>>> current occupant is Bill Graham, who was elected by the business folks
>>> with NomCom participant support (we’d proposed Avri).  I expect Bill
>>> will stand for reelection.
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>
>>>> *From: *Glen de Saint Géry <Glen at icann.org <mailto:Glen at icann.org>>
>>>> *Subject: **RE: Non Contracted Parties House Election Procedures 2011*
>>>> *Date: *February 13, 2014 at 10:15:21 AM GMT+1
>>>> *To: *"Rosette, Kristina" <krosette at cov.com
>>>> <mailto:krosette at cov.com>>, "tony holmes (tonyarholmes at btinternet.com
>>>> <mailto:tonyarholmes at btinternet.com>)" <tonyarholmes at btinternet.com
>>>> <mailto:tonyarholmes at btinternet.com>>, "elisa.cooper at markmonitor.com
>>>> <mailto:elisa.cooper at markmonitor.com>" <elisa.cooper at markmonitor.com
>>>> <mailto:elisa.cooper at markmonitor.com>>, Rafik Dammak
>>>> <rafik.dammak at gmail.com <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>>, William
>>>> Drake <william.drake at uzh.ch <mailto:william.drake at uzh.ch>>,
>>>> "marie-laure Lemineur (mllemineur at gmail.com
>>>> <mailto:mllemineur at gmail.com>)" <mllemineur at gmail.com
>>>> <mailto:mllemineur at gmail.com>>, "Reed, Daniel A (dan-reed at uiowa.edu
>>>> <mailto:dan-reed at uiowa.edu>)" <dan-reed at uiowa.edu
>>>> <mailto:dan-reed at uiowa.edu>>
>>>> *Cc: *Marika Konings <marika.konings at icann.org
>>>> <mailto:marika.konings at icann.org>>, Erika Randall
>>>> <erika.randall at icann.org <mailto:erika.randall at icann.org>>, David
>>>> Olive <david.olive at icann.org <mailto:david.olive at icann.org>>
>>>>
>>>> Dear Kristina,
>>>> Per ICANN’s Counsel, Erika Randall whom I asked to confirm the date of
>>>> the written notice, she confirmed as follows:
>>>>> Yes, you will need to give a written notice to the ICANN Secretary by
>>>> April 16, 2014 of the person selected for Board Seat 14. (This is the
>>>> date six months prior to the ICANN Annual General Meeting >scheduled
>>>> to be held in Los Angeles on October 16, 2014).
>>>>
>>>> Please advise what timelines  the Non Contracted Parties House
>>>> suggests for the process.
>>>> Thank you very much.
>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>
>>>> Glen
>>>> *De :*Rosette, Kristina [mailto:krosette at cov.com]
>>>> *Envoyé :*mercredi 12 février 2014 21:23
>>>> *À :*Glen de Saint Géry; tony holmes(tonyarholmes at btinternet.com
>>>> <mailto:tonyarholmes at btinternet.com>);elisa.cooper at markmonitor.com
>>>> <mailto:elisa.cooper at markmonitor.com>; Rafik Dammak; William Drake;
>>>> marie-laure Lemineur (mllemineur at gmail.com
>>>> <mailto:mllemineur at gmail.com>); Reed, Daniel A (dan-reed at uiowa.edu
>>>> <mailto:dan-reed at uiowa.edu>)
>>>> *Cc :*Marika Konings; Erika Randall; David Olive
>>>> *Objet :*RE: Non Contracted Parties House Election Procedures 2011
>>>> With apologies as I suspect I may not be taking everything into
>>>> account, am I correct in thinking that the Call for Nominations (under
>>>> the GNSO Operating Procedures) opens in May because Bill’s term ends
>>>> in October?  And, if so, we need to have the House procedures
>>>> finalized by the end of April (which means we have some time)?
>>>> K
>>>> *From:*Glen de Saint Géry [mailto:Glen at icann.org]
>>>> *Sent:*Wednesday, February 12, 2014 8:26 AM
>>>> *To:*Rosette, Kristina; tony holmes (tonyarholmes at btinternet.com
>>>> <mailto:tonyarholmes at btinternet.com>);elisa.cooper at markmonitor.com
>>>> <mailto:elisa.cooper at markmonitor.com>; Rafik Dammak; William Drake;
>>>> marie-laure Lemineur (mllemineur at gmail.com
>>>> <mailto:mllemineur at gmail.com>); Reed, Daniel A (dan-reed at uiowa.edu
>>>> <mailto:dan-reed at uiowa.edu>)
>>>> *Cc:*Marika Konings; Erika Randall; David Olive; Glen de Saint Géry
>>>> *Subject:*Non Contracted Parties House Election Procedures 2011
>>>> To : Non Contracted Parties House
>>>>
>>>> Dear All,
>>>>
>>>> In preparation for the Non Contracted Parties House Election for Board
>>>> Seat 14, it has come to our notice that the attached 2011 Election
>>>> Procedures were not posted in accordance with theGNSO Operating
>>>> Procedures
>>>> <http://gnso.icann.org/en/council/op-procedures-13jun13-en.pdf>. Would
>>>> you please be so kind as to confirm these voting procedures so that
>>>> they can be included as required under theGNSO Operating Procedures.
>>>> <http://gnso.icann.org/en/council/op-procedures-13jun13-en.pdf>
>>>>
>>>> Election procedures are defined in theGNSO Operating Procedures
>>>> <http://gnso.icann.org/en/council/op-procedures-13jun13-en.pdf>.
>>>> 2.4 Board Seat Elections
>>>> 2.4.3 Detailed Election Procedures
>>>>
>>>> Each House is responsible for establishing its own internal procedures
>>>> for nominations,
>>>> interviews, voting, and candidate selection; however, those processes
>>>> must be documented
>>>> and forwarded to the GNSO Council for inclusion as ANNEXES to the GNSO
>>>> Operating
>>>> Procedures. If a House subsequently elects to alter its procedures,
>>>> such amendments must be
>>>> submitted to the GNSO Council before becoming effective so that the
>>>> procedures accurately
>>>> reflect the actual processes and activities performed by each House in
>>>> selecting its candidate.
>>>> Thank you for your urgent attention to this.
>>>> Kind regards,
>>>> Glen
>>>> Glen de Saint Géry
>>>> GNSO Secretariat
>>>> gnso.secretariat at gnso.icann.org <mailto:gnso.secretariat at gnso.icann.org>
>>>> http://gnso.icann.org <http://gnso.icann.org/>
>>> ***********************************************
>>> William J. Drake
>>> International Fellow & Lecturer
>>>   Media Change & Innovation Division, IPMZ
>>>   University of Zurich, Switzerland
>>> Chair, Noncommercial Users Constituency,
>>>   ICANN, www.ncuc.org <http://www.ncuc.org>
>>> william.drake at uzh.ch <mailto:william.drake at uzh.ch> (direct),
>>> wjdrake at gmail.com <mailto:wjdrake at gmail.com> (lists),
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