[NCUC-DISCUSS] Fadi's strategy panels

Fri Oct 18 00:45:47 CEST 2013

ICANN stands for Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers, its
mission as stated on the Bylaws Article 1 says

The mission of The Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers ("
ICANN") is to coordinate, at the overall level, the global Internet's
systems of unique identifiers, and in particular to ensure the stable and
secure operation of the Internet's unique identifier systems. In
particular, ICANN:

1. Coordinates the allocation and assignment of the three sets of unique
identifiers for the Internet, which are

a. Domain names (forming a system referred to as "DNS");

b. Internet protocol ("IP") addresses and autonomous system ("AS") numbers;
and

c. Protocol port and parameter numbers.

2. Coordinates the operation and evolution of the DNS root name server
system.

3. Coordinates policy development reasonably and appropriately related to
these technical functions.

On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 5:35 PM, Marc Perkel <marc at churchofreality.org>wrote:

>  I see things differently. If you think ICANN is limited to just whois and
> dns you're not seeing the big picture.
>
> Internet Governance is something that is an emergent property of the
> exponential growth of the Internet. A good way of looking at it is that
> when the car was invented it led to the invention of traffic lights.
>
> In the 1990s I used to sell network control software to big companies and
> my customers we IT department heads. Sometime I would hear stories about
> how they got a job that didn't exist 15 years earlier and often it went
> like this:
>
> "I was a salesman and I bought a TRS80 computer so I didn't have to retype
> my proposals and because I was the first to have a computer I ended up head
> of the IT department."
>
> ICANN is the salesman with the TRS80. ICANN is in the right place at the
> right time for IG to emerge. It is up to us to make sure it gets off to a
> good start.
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> On 10/17/2013 5:44 AM, Milton L Mueller wrote:
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>  Whois is something ICANN actually controls. ****
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> ICANN’s role in the IG ecosystem is NOT under ICANN’s control. ****
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> The future of Internet technology is NOT under ICANN’s control.****
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> ICANN’s MS processes can NOT be changed without the consent of the current
> constituencies and SGs.****
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> I continue to believe that active participation in these things will only
> inflate their importance.****
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> *From:* ncuc-discuss-bounces at lists.ncuc.org [
> mailto:ncuc-discuss-bounces at lists.ncuc.org<ncuc-discuss-bounces at lists.ncuc.org>]
> *On Behalf Of *Kathy Kleiman
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 17, 2013 8:11 AM
> *To:* ncuc-discuss at lists.ncuc.org
> *Subject:* Re: [NCUC-DISCUSS] Fadi's strategy panels****
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> I agree with Avri that we ignore these new panels at our peril. The EWG is
> our history: where we mix true experts with an unbalanced set of well-known
> ICANN advocates committed to changing policy in their interest, we wind up
> with disastrous results.
> Best,
> Kathy
>  :****
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> Hi,****
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> I think we ignore them at our peril.  I doubt they will go away.****
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> Just like the EWG, it was supposed to be advisory, but as time goes on, it become more and the control point on all things whois derivative.  Once the report is out, it will be almost impossible to not get stuck with its global collections and publication of information that should be private.****
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> Same thing with these the FSP.  Just you watch, a recommendation will come from the so-called multistakeholder experts and there will be hardly a breath before we find elements of those recommendation approved by the Board and in implementation.****
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> Fadi made it quite clear that he does not support the bottom-up model and that he prefers something more like a middle in/out model.  This is not necessarily an invalid way to create a multistakeholder model, but it is not the guarantee of ICANN with its bottom-up model.****
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> avri****
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> EWG  Expert Working Group - ****
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> FSP - Fadi Strategy Panel****
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> On 16 Oct 2013, at 14:48, Milton L Mueller wrote:****
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>  Ignore them, and they will go away. ****
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> These panels not only have no legitimacy, there is really no clear explanation for why we need them and what they will do that meets a need defined by CANN's actual constituencies and communities. ****
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> The idea that a group of 6 people led by someone who has never spent a minute in ICANN's process or in the formulation or analysis of DNS policy is going to make major reforms in process strikes me as especially ridiculous. ****
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> --MM****
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> -----Original Message-----****
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> From: ncuc-discuss-bounces at lists.ncuc.org [mailto:ncuc-discuss-bounces at lists.ncuc.org <ncuc-discuss-bounces at lists.ncuc.org>] On Behalf Of Jorge Amodio****
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> Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2013 5:06 AM****
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> To: Avri Doria****
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> Cc: ncuc-discuss at lists.ncuc.org****
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> Subject: Re: [NCUC-DISCUSS] Fadi's strategy panels****
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> I agree. Fadi is going way too far from his role as CEO****
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> -Jorge****
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>  On Oct 15, 2013, at 2:54 PM, Avri Doria <avri at acm.org> <avri at acm.org> wrote:****
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> i thought people volunteered and where chosen as individuals.****
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> This is not  a proper ICANN multistakeholder process, this is a president's blue ribbon panel by a different name.****
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> avri****
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>  On 15 Oct 2013, at 15:02, Carlos A. Afonso wrote:****
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> I wonder if people have been invited in their personal capacities (in ****
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> which case I assume Icann will foot the bill) or as reps of their ****
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> organizations/constituencies?****
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