[NCSG-Discuss] Draft Registrant Rights & Responsibilities

Thu Mar 7 18:31:23 CET 2013

The rights of registrant issue interests me.  I always feel that 'rights'
usually show up itself when someone wants to 'control' something.

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On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 10:51 PM, Avri Doria <avri at acm.org> wrote:

> Hi,
>
>
> I don't think anything is announced yet, but I understand this is just a
> pre-release draft.
> I can't see them avoiding a comment period on it.
>
> Now, will they pay attention to any comments we, or any part of civil
> society, may make?
> Well ....
>
> avri
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> On 7 Mar 2013, at 10:17, Milton L Mueller wrote:
>
> > Are they asking for public comment on this?
> >
> > From: NCSG-Discuss [mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU] On Behalf Of
> Robin Gross
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 10:23 PM
> > To: NCSG-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
> > Subject: Re: [NCSG-Discuss] Draft Registrant Rights & Responsibilities
> >
> > Thanks, Joy.  I share your concerns about ICANN calling these "rights",
> which really does imply something much broader than what they really mean,
> which perhaps is something like "rights provided by the ICANN contracts".
>  Perhaps ICANN would simply be willing to re-title their document to
> clarify that point since it is misleading and creating confusion about the
> extent of rights a person might have with respect their domain name?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Robin
> >
> >
> > On Mar 5, 2013, at 7:01 PM, joy wrote:
> >
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> > Thanks Robin - I think calling these "rights" is somewhat misleading-
> > they are a small set consumer related contractual rights ... and not
> > particularly strong ones at that. The concept of "registrants rights"
> > and "responsibilities" in relation to domain names are referred to in
> > a variety of RFCs (eg 1591) - might be worth considering whether any
> > of these are relevant
> > So far as human rights obligations go (due process, privacy, freedom
> > of association, non-discrimination and so on) - I'm not entirely sure
> > about relegating these to contractual terms and conditions since my
> > understanding is that these are obligations which pertain regardless
> > of private contract via ICANN. I wouldn't want to see these somehow
> > curtailed or read down by only partial reference or inclusion (as I
> > have seen happen in other non-ICANN contractual contexts).
> > Has there been any previous work in NCSG around "registrants rights"
> > that might help?
> > Cheers
> > Joy
> >
> >
> >
> > On 6/03/2013 9:21 a.m., Robin Gross wrote:
> > Below is a draft of what is said to be a near-final version of a
> > 'domain name registrant's rights and responsibilities' (according
> > to ICANN staff).
> >
> > Unfortunately it doesn't include rights like due process of law
> > and gives short shrift to registrants' privacy rights.  It might
> > be worthwhile to draft our own version of registrant rights and
> > responsibilities or an official comment on the deficits in the
> > staff-drafted version.  It would be great if we could encourage
> > staff to come up with a final version that describes the fuller
> > range of rights available to registrants.
> >
> > Best, Robin
> >
> >
> >
> http://domainincite.com/12025-icann-to-reveal-registrant-rights-responsibilities-and-heres-a-draft-copy
> >
> >  Registrants' Rights and Responsibilities
> >
> > Domain Name Registrants' Rights:
> >
> > 1. Your domain name registration and any privacy services you may
> > use in conjunction with it must be subject to a Registration
> > Agreement with an ICANN Accredited Registrar. * You are entitled to
> > review this Registration Agreement at any time, and download a copy
> > for your records. 2. You are entitled to accurate and accessible
> > information about: * The identity of your ICANN Accredited
> > Registrar; * The identity of any privacy service provider
> > affiliated with your Registrar; * Your Registrar's terms and
> > conditions, including pricing information, applicable to domain
> > name registrations; * The terms and conditions, including pricing
> > information, applicable to any privacy services offered by your
> > Registrar; * The customer support services offered by your
> > Registrar and the privacy services provider, and how to access
> > them; * How to raise concerns and resolve disputes with your
> > Registrar and any privacy services offered by them; and *
> > Instructions that explain your Registrar's processes for
> > registering, managing, transferring, renewing, and restoring your
> > domain name registrations, including through any privacy services
> > made available by your Registrar. 3. You shall not be subject to
> > false advertising or deceptive practices by your Registrar or
> > though any privacy services made available by your Registrar. This
> > includes deceptive notices, hidden fees, and any practices that are
> > illegal under the consumer protection law of your residence.
> >
> > Domain Name Registrants' Responsibilities:
> >
> > 1. You must comply with the terms and conditions posted by your
> > Registrar, including applicable policies from your Registrar, the
> > Registry and ICANN. 2. You must review your Registrar's current
> > Registration Agreement, along with any updates. 3. You will assume
> > sole responsibility for the registration and use of your domain
> > name. 4. You must provide accurate information for publication in
> > directories such as WHOIS, and promptly update this to reflect any
> > changes. 5. You must respond to inquiries from your Registrar
> > within fifteen (15) days, and keep your Registrar account data
> > current. If you choose to have your domain name registration renew
> > automatically, you must also keep your payment information
> > current.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > IP JUSTICE Robin Gross, Executive Director 1192 Haight Street, San
> > Francisco, CA  94117  USA p: +1-415-553-6261    f: +1-415-462-6451
> > w: http://www.ipjustice.org     e: robin at ipjustice.org
> >
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> > IP JUSTICE
> > Robin Gross, Executive Director
> > 1192 Haight Street, San Francisco, CA  94117  USA
> > p: +1-415-553-6261    f: +1-415-462-6451
> > w: http://www.ipjustice.org     e: robin at ipjustice.org
> >
> >
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