[NCUC-DISCUSS] [] Out of contact

[William Drake]

That we must legislate in order to prevent the chair from acting unilaterally rather than seeking consensus, which I didn't propose to do and which I can't imagine any other chair proposing to do.

On Jun 28, 2013, at 3:35 PM, avri doria <avri at ella.com> wrote:

> What counterfactuals?
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> From: William Drake <william.drake at uzh.ch> 
> Date: 06/28/2013 08:47 (GMT-05:00) 
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> Subject: Re: [NCUC-DISCUSS] [] Out of contact 
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> Hi
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> On Jun 28, 2013, at 2:01 PM, Avri Doria <avri at ACM.ORG> wrote:
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> > +1
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> > Chair chooses, EC approves.
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> > or a mid point;
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> > Chair chooses, EC can overrule.
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> > But makes no sense to leave the EC out of the process.
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> Nope.  I would be rather surprised if a chair were to seek to appoint an interim EC member without coordinating with the EC, and indeed with the membership.   Hence my original suggestion, which I believe conforms with the bylaws, such as they are: if a member continuously does not participate in decision making processes (the clause says 'vote' but we don't, so what) the chair may appoint an interim, in which context of course s/he'd consult with the EC and membership in search of consensus, which is why I asked if anyone had any suggestions.  
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> I had hoped we could perform this seemingly innocuous task reasonably quickly so I could get some help on board with Durban work etc., but if we prefer to convene a constitutional convention on the matter, ok.  But please let's not premise the party on counterfactuals.
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> Bill
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> > On 28 Jun 2013, at 00:22, Tapani Tarvainen wrote:
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> >> We could use the same rules, i.e., have the EC select the replacement
> >> in both cases if there's no 2nd (&c) candidate available.
> >> In a way it would be more consistent than having the chair do it,
> >> but I think either way would be fine, as long as it is clearly specified.
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