[NCSG-Discuss] CISPA 2.0

[Carl Smith]

Thanks Alex,

Wisdom is universal among the wise.

Lou

On 1/30/2013 12:59 AM, Alex Gakuru wrote:
>
> IN KENYA the Agikuyu say, “*/Mundu utari nguku ona imwe ndagiriiruo ni 
> gutuithia ciira wa nguku./*” Loosely translated, “A person who does 
> not have even a single hen is not supposed to be elevated to 
> adjudicate over matters poultry/disputes. If more contextually put, a 
> parent is wiser if entrusts their child to the care of another parent 
> than to an individual who does not have a child -- thus lack the full 
> experience of having and raising a child. Is is not common knowledge 
> that kids are such bundles of joy? ;-)
>
> Should the child under their watch falter or err, such an individual 
> is likely to impulsively meter out terribly harsh punishments – unlike 
> a fellow parent whom would otherwise hesitate before taking such 
> drastic punitive actions.
>
> So much for cultural cross pollination in one day.
>
> enjoy,
>
> Alex
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 3:54 AM, Michael Haffely <ncuc at jollyrogers.com 
> <mailto:ncuc at jollyrogers.com>> wrote:
>
>     It concerns me that "I don't use email, some would call me a
>     Luddite <http://mashable.com/2012/09/28/janet-napolitano-email/>"
>     Napalitano wants DHS to have "/greater access to internet and
>     cybersecurity information from the private sector/"  She doesn't
>     have anything to be concerned about or lose as she isn't a
>     participant of/in either the internet or the private sector.  She
>     also said of a potential "Digital 9/11" "/There are things we can
>     and should be doing right now that, if not prevent, would mitigate
>     the extent of the damage" /What things?  What isn't being done?
>
>     I also have doubts about the "Cyber Pearl Harbor that will occur
>     and be as bad as the September 11 attacks" meme that is thrown
>     about. In my opinion there has not been a Cyber Pearl Harbor
>     threat model that isn't akin to a movie plot, and the security
>     community is, for the most part, very good with sharing/alerting
>     when a weird problem arises (CERT, SANS ISC, Mitre's CVE, informal
>     lines of communication, etc.).  I would encourage United States
>     citizens to contact your representatives and let them know that
>     this not the direction we should go, the proposed measures do
>     little to pro-actively protect the internet as giving DHS access
>     to "internet and cybersecurity information" will not protect, nor
>     prevent an attack (and what would they do with it?  Raid offices
>     of companies with unpatched equipment/servers?  Force them to
>     upgrade? Require attestation of compliance?).  Information of this
>     type would probably only be useful to attempt prosecution after an
>     event.
>
>     It's an incomplete thought but just my two cents.
>
>
>
>
>     On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 11:55 AM, Carl Smith
>     <lectriclou at hotmail.com <mailto:lectriclou at hotmail.com>> wrote:
>
>
>             Homeland Security's Napolitano invokes 9/11 to push for
>             CISPA 2.0
>
>         Link https://rt.com/usa/news/napolitano-us-cyber-attack-761/
>
>         Lou
>
>
>

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