[NCSG-Discuss] Fwd: [council] Advice requested by the ICANN Board / Consumer Trust

Alain Berranger alain.berranger at GMAIL.COM
Sun Jan 27 17:01:00 CET 2013


Hi Wendy et al,

Thank you for your comprehensive response and indeed monopolizing the
analysis would be unacceptable. In a way, when the Chair suggested the more
developed dissenting position be sent directly to the Board, it was a
missed opportunity for the GNSO Council, independant of the voting outcome,
to capture both sides of the positions. So, I still would prefer that GNSO
recommendations be developed in such a way as to contribute equally to both
sides of the issue in order to inform broadly the deliberative decisions by
the Board for instance.

This is probably a very justified direct communication to the Board from
the dissenting parties, but I am convinced it would be preferable that it
be an exceptional route.

Cheers, Alain



On Sunday, January 27, 2013, Wendy Seltzer wrote:

> Hi Alain and all,
>
> Dissenters often do write to the Board. The reason I wanted to do so
> specifically here is because our disagreement is called out in the
> report, but only in a preliminary form (an early exchange in the
> drafting group, rather than later input). When I asked for an amendment
> in the GNSO Council meeting to include this more developed position, the
> chair suggested that we instead send it directly to the Board.  I'm just
> now realizing we haven't taken any further action.
>
> In this case, I think it's helpful to give the Board additional analysis
> to inform their deliberation on the meaning of "consumer trust," because
> a mistaken interpretation like that given in the largely
> trademark-driven report would negatively impact the rights and interests
> of individuals and non-commercial stakeholders concerned with free
> expression of less popular viewpoints and innovative development.
>
> The GNSO Council ratifies the consensus of stakeholder groups on policy
> development, but it doesn't monopolize the analysis and input to
> deliberative decisions.
>
> --Wendy
>
> On 01/15/2013 01:39 PM, Alain Berranger wrote:
> > Dear NCSG Colleagues,
> >
> > While Wendy's arguments about innovation are convincing to me, I feel I
> > need understanding on how consensus is built and how decision-making is
> > made and communicated in/by the GNSO.
> >
> > From the point of view of GNSO procedures then, do we have to write to
> > Board for every issue NCSG dissents? or would that be an exceptional
> > situation? What is the purpose and value of the GNSO vote?  Does it mean
> > that the consensus, if any, firms up at the Board level only? When NCSG
> > agrees with a recommendation, do the other SGs usually write to the
> Board?
> > For that matter, in the case of GNSO votes with dissention, does/should
> the
> > Board not receive a summary of the arguments for and against the
> > recommendation?
> >
> > Alain
> >
> > On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 4:47 PM, Wendy Seltzer <wendy at seltzer.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi NCSG,
> >>
> >> We dissented from this recommendation in Council, but were outvoted. Do
> >> we want to send a letter of our own to the Board?
> >>
> >> Here was a letter I wrote to the drafting team, that we could repurpose
> >> for the Board:
> >>
> >> I write because I continue to have strong disagreement with the "trust"
> >> metrics and their presentation. Since I have been unable to make the
> >> calls due to persistent scheduling conflicts, I wanted to spell out the
> >> concerns I discussed with several of you in Prague. I appreciate the
> >> work that has gone into the metrics, but believe that the "trust"
> >> metrics rely on a faulty premise, that gTLDs should be predictable,
> >> rather than open to innovative and unexpected new uses.
> >>
> >> The current draft mistakes a platform, a gTLD, for an end-product. A key
> >> value of a platform is its generativity -- its ability to be used and
> >> leveraged by third parties for new, unexpected purposes. Precisely
> >> because much innovation is unanticipated, it cannot be predicted for a
> >> chart of measures. Moreover, incentives on the intermediaries to control
> >> their platforms translate into restrictions on end-users' free
> >> expression and innovation.
> >>
> >> Just as we would not want to speak about "trust" in a pad of printing
> >> paper, on which anyone could make posters, and we don't ask a road
> >> system to interrogate what its drivers plan to do when they reach their
> >> destinations, I think we shouldn't judge DNS registries on their users'
> >> activities.
> >>
> >> ICANN's planned reviews of and targets for gTLD success should not
> >> interfere with market decisions about the utility of various offerings.
> >>
> >> In particular, I disagree with the second group of "trust" metrics, the
> >> " Measures related to confidence that TLD operators are fulfilling
> >> promises and complying with ICANN policies and applicable national
> >> laws:" namely,
> >> * Relative incidence of UDRP & URS Complaints; Relative incidence of
> >> UDRP & URS Decisions against registrant;
> >> * Quantity and relative incidence of intellectual property claims
> >> relating to Second Level domain names, and relative cost of overall
> >> domain name policing measured at: immediately prior to new gTLD
> >> delegation and at 1 and 3 years after delegation;
> >> * Quantity of Compliance Concerns w/r/t Applicable National Laws,
> >> including reported data security breaches;
> >> * Quantity and relative incidence of Domain Takedowns;
> >> * Quantity of spam received by a "honeypot" email address in each new
> gTLD;
> >> * Quantity and relative incidence of fraudulent transactions caused by
> >> phishing sites in new gTLDs;
> >> * Quantity and relative incidence of detected phishing sites using new
> >> gTLDs;
> >> * Quantity and relative incidence of detected botnets and malware using
> >> new gTLDs
> >> * Quantity and relative incidence of sites found to be dealing in or
> >> distributing identities and account information used in identity fraud;
> and
> >> * Quantity and relative incidence of complaints regarding inaccurate,
> >> invalid, or suspect WHOIS records in new gTLD
> >>
> >> Separately, I disagree with the targets for the "redirection,"
> >> "duplicates,Wendy Seltzer -- wendy at seltzer.org <javascript:;> +1
> 617.863.0613
> Policy Counsel, World Wide Web Consortium (W3C)
> Fellow, Berkman Center for Internet & Society at Harvard University
> Visiting Fellow, Yale Law School Information Society Project
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>


-- 
Alain Berranger, B.Eng, MBA
Member, Board of Directors, CECI,
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Executive-in-residence, Schulich School of Business, www.schulich.yorku.ca
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