[NCSG-Discuss] GNSO applicants to the ATRT2 team

[Alain Berranger]

Well said David,

I feel the same! Alain

On Thursday, January 31, 2013, David Cake wrote:

> I was just clarifying the process of this particular review team selection
> round  - gender diversity was not an issue here, because no matter what the
> outcome of the process overall, within NCSG our two applicants were both
> women, and so NCSG was always going to satisfy the gender diversity
> requirement of the council process.
>
> Personally, I think gender diversity quotas do have a valid role to play
> in an institutional context. Luckily NCSGs wealth of talent is already
> pretty gender diverse, so gender diversity requirements are generally
> positive for us - and personally, I'm very pleased to be working alongside
> so many exceptional women in the NCSG leadership team. But if you doubt
> that systemic gender bias can be an issue, you don't need to look that far
> beyond NCSG to find it, especially in the tech industry generally.
>
> I'm in favour of ICANN trying to encourage gender and geographical (and
> other forms) of diversity.
>
> Cheers
>
> David
>
>
>
> On 31/01/2013, at 8:23 AM, Carl Smith <lectriclou at HOTMAIL.COM> wrote:
>
>  Thanks David,
>
> I have no problem with the geographic point, but If our best choice is a
> woman then what is the problem?  To me, the one of whom we have the
> greatest confidence is who will serve our joint interests best.  I look to
> the minds and hearts of those I support.  There are still bigots in the
> world and surely that will continue to need addressing.  Though often
> hidden from view.  If the females of the world are to be our leaders
> because they have the right stuff, we are better for that.  Are men afraid
> of loosing their machismo?
>
> Sorry for the rant, but I see this gender thing as demeaning to those who
> have worked to get to the position which they have rightfully earned.
>
> Respectfully,
>
> Lou
>
> On 1/30/2013 12:37 PM, David Cake wrote:
>
> FWIW, only one GNSO endorsed candidate was required to meet gender
> diversity requirements, and both applicants from NCSG were women, so NCSG
> was inevitably going to meet the gender diversity requirements for the
> council, and so gender diversity was not at issue for this selection. One
> applicant from the Registries was a woman, but they did not choose to
> advance them as a candidate for endorsements.
>
>  The diversity requirement that is relevant to the council endorsement
> decision was geographical diversity - we have ended up with four GNSO
> endorsed candidates from North America. There was an option for the council
> to endorse two extra candidates to satisfy geographical diversity
> requirements, one each from NCSG (Marie-Laure) and CSG, but the contracted
> parties did not vote for it.
>
>  Regards
>  David
>
>  On 30/01/2013, at 8:38 AM, Carl Smith <lectriclou at HOTMAIL.COM> wrote:
>
>  Thanks Bill,
>
> Is this a solution looking for a problem or is there a problem of which I
> am unaware.  Seems to me, we have tried to get the representation with
> confidence in mind.  I know we talked about diversity with agreement.  But
> if our best representation is not of the right sex......?  I for one just
> want our consensus to be aggressively pursued by whom ever we feel most
> confident.  I never got the impression any of us was a bigot.  We have a
> liberty minded group, I believe.
>
> Respectfully,
>
> Lou
>
> On 1/29/2013 9:51 AM, William Drake wrote:
>
> Hi Alain
>
>  The process agreed agreed June 2010
> http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/other/aoc-reviews is that
>
>  "If the list does not meet the above mentioned diversity objectives,
> the Council as a whole may choose to endorse up to two additional
> candidates from the applicant pool who would help to give the list of GNSO
> nominees the desired balance. In this case, the Council would hold a vote
> during its teleconference, with sixty percent support of both houses
> represented in the Council being required for endorsement. If no candidate
> obtains that level of support, the list of endorsements obtained via the
> bottom-up process of stakeholder group nominations will be deemed final and
> forwarded to ICANN."
>
>  So the additional nominees would be of the GNSO general
>
>

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