[NCUC-DISCUSS] New gTLD program auctions

Tue Dec 3 14:19:07 CET 2013

Well said dear Tracy.
Thank you.

2013/12/3 Tracy F. Hackshaw @ Google <tracyhackshaw at gmail.com>

> The list is updated as changes are requested by and on behalf of
> Governments.
>
> It is not perfect, however it is a very good snapshot of current state.
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> ------
> Rgds,
>
> Tracy
>
>
> On Dec 3, 2013 8:35 AM, "Rafik Dammak" <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Olivier,
>>
>> here the list of all GAC representatives, not sure it is regularly
>> updated https://gacweb.icann.org/display/gacweb/GAC+Representatives
>>
>> Rafik
>>
>>
>> 2013/12/3 Olivier Kouami <olivierkouami at gmail.com>
>>
>>> Hi !
>>>
>>> I have a question please.
>>> How many Developing countries representatives (particuliarly from
>>> Africa) are active members of GAC till now ?
>>> We are talking about multistakerholderism ... Is it effective ?
>>> Let me know please.
>>> Cheers !
>>> -Olevie-
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2013/12/3 Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
>>>
>>>> Hi Adam,
>>>>
>>>> I was asking if the GAC is discussing in how to participate early in
>>>> policy development process early and not having advices made at later
>>>> stage. I was not talking about Applicant support or funds per se
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> Rafik
>>>>
>>>> 2013/12/3 Adam Peake <ajp at glocom.ac.jp>
>>>>
>>>>> So there'll be a PDP?  Again, shouldn't something like this be
>>>>> coordinated across ICANN, part of the organization's strategic objectives?
>>>>>  If talking about a further tld program and developing countries, doesn't
>>>>> it make more sense to work that up through the African/LAC/AP regional
>>>>> strategies?  If thinking how auction and 'windfall' type funds can be used,
>>>>> again if the focus is development then let the regions work it out.
>>>>>
>>>>> Adam
>>>>>
>>>>> On Dec 3, 2013, at 8:36 PM, Rafik Dammak wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> > Hi Tracy,
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Thank you for this update. Interesting to see GAC members trying new
>>>>> approaches to work on advices. Was there any discussion on how GAC
>>>>> participate early in the stage of PDP ?
>>>>> > For JAS, I remember as co-chair of the WG in that time to approach
>>>>> GAC members to join us and we didn't fully succeed (I recall that you
>>>>> joined us and participated in calls). But we could find support on GAC
>>>>> communique later .
>>>>> >
>>>>> > regarding the input, did the GAC discuss on how to get it? are you
>>>>> going to follow the model of public comment period and let the community
>>>>> comment your deliverables?
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Best,
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Rafik
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > 2013/12/3 Tracy F. Hackshaw @ Google <tracyhackshaw at gmail.com>
>>>>> > On a related note, the GAC has, as per its BA Communique, formally
>>>>> established a Working Group to examine (future) new gTLD issues ... one of
>>>>> which is Applicant Support and Developing Economies'
>>>>> (involvement/participation). A large percentage of the foundational input
>>>>> into this Working Group is based on an assessment of the implementation of
>>>>> the JAS Working Group recommendations as well as an assessment of the
>>>>> effectiveness of the final version of the Applicant Support Program.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > An initial position on the issue with the potential, based on wider
>>>>> GAC discussion, to move forward to formal GAC Advice is due in Singapore.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I am certain that the inputs of the NCUC, among others, on this
>>>>> topic, will be VERY welcomed and immediately considered by the Working
>>>>> Group.
>>>>> > ------
>>>>> > Rgds,
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Tracy
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Dec 2, 2013 11:58 PM, "Rafik Dammak" <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> > Hi Marilia,
>>>>> >
>>>>> > regarding auctions, one of the proposal (mentioned again in Ba
>>>>> meeting by Avri) was to create an ICANN Foundation to manage those funds
>>>>> coming from auctions. That was suggested in the final report (
>>>>> https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/22970578/Final_Report_JASWG+%28Sept+2011%29_Seth+created_Submitted.pdf)
>>>>> made by the joiny working on new gTLD applicant support or JAS and the
>>>>> board didn't pick-up that recommendation in that time .
>>>>> >
>>>>> > it is also possible to add other existing funds not related to new
>>>>> gTLD program per se.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Another option can be to support applicants from developing
>>>>> countries in second round of the new gTLD program (I would prefer those not
>>>>> having commercial interests to be supported) and working to make it more
>>>>> open and inclusive. Unfortunately, the applicant support was implemented
>>>>> too late for the first round in Jan 2012.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > as Amr said, public interest can be broad and having several
>>>>> interpretations, we can see that on GAC advices to request content policy
>>>>> via TLD. However, for applicant support, we also found support from the GAC
>>>>> to the recommendation made by the WG.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Best,
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Rafik
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > 2013/12/3 Marilia Maciel <mariliamaciel at gmail.com>
>>>>> > Hi Amr! I have no particular attachment to this expression, we can
>>>>> use whatever suits our discussion. Or we can avoid definitions and focus on
>>>>> concrete proposals of what to do with the revenues that would benefit the
>>>>> wider community. My point was just that revenues should not be entreasured
>>>>> by ICANN or be appropriated by private actors in the chain, but put to good
>>>>> use. What are the areas under ICANN's mandate in which additional resources
>>>>> could benefit non-commercial interests? Foster development of the Internet?
>>>>> That is what I am mulling over and would love to have company :)
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Marília
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 4:44 PM, Amr Elsadr <aelsadr at egyptig.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> > Hi Marilia,
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I share your interest in this process and its outcome, however like
>>>>> you, am not as informed on it as I would like to be. Reading up on this is
>>>>> on my “to do” list, but I do have one observation:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I personally have a problem with the term “public interest”. I do
>>>>> not believe there is a standard or agreed upon definition of the term. It
>>>>> is largely subjective as far as I can tell. If you ask a lawyer active in
>>>>> civil society work in Brazil what the public interest is, I doubt you will
>>>>> get the same response if you ask a state-security officer in Egypt (for
>>>>> example). Forgive me if I’m a bit touchy with the term. I’ve had some
>>>>> unpleasant experience with it in the past.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > If there has been a discussion on this list about the auctions, I
>>>>> have missed it. If NCUC does have a position or would like to adopt one, I
>>>>> hope we can agree on specific proposals on what we believe should be done
>>>>> with auction revenues, and not use abstract terms like “pubic interest”.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Just a few thoughts, and as always, I am agreeable to being
>>>>> corrected.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Thanks.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Amr
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Dec 2, 2013, at 6:35 PM, Marilia Maciel <mariliamaciel at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >> Dear all,
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> I am trying to understand better the new gTLD program auctions and,
>>>>> more specifically, to understand what are the feasible options to invest
>>>>> the revenue in a way that is public interest oriented and maybe development
>>>>> oriented as well.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Has NCUC reached a common position about the auctions? If not, I
>>>>> would like to join others who would be interested to focus on that. I am
>>>>> sorry if this topic has already been discussed on the list before I join.
>>>>> If so, I will search the archives.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> It is my understanding that a proposal from civil society with a
>>>>> public interest orientation could be supported by some govts as well.
>>>>> Actually, some have been looking for inputs on this matter.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Thanks in advance for any information you can share about this.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Marília
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> --
>>>>> >> Marília Maciel
>>>>> >> Pesquisadora Gestora
>>>>> >> Centro de Tecnologia e Sociedade - FGV Direito Rio
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Researcher and Coordinator
>>>>> >> Center for Technology & Society - FGV Law School
>>>>> >> http://direitorio.fgv.br/cts
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> DiploFoundation associate
>>>>> >> www.diplomacy.edu
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>>>>> > Marília Maciel
>>>>> > Pesquisadora Gestora
>>>>> > Centro de Tecnologia e Sociedade - FGV Direito Rio
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Researcher and Coordinator
>>>>> > Center for Technology & Society - FGV Law School
>>>>> > http://direitorio.fgv.br/cts
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