[NCUC-DISCUSS] New gTLD program auctions

Tue Dec 3 14:01:49 CET 2013

Thank you so much dear Rafik.
Finally I see that there is indeed some African countries represented in
the GAC. But only few, very few of them are really active.
I think the same thing for the private sector and the civil society in
Africa.
In my humble opinion, there is therefore something urgent to do on this
side.
Cheers !
-Olévié-


2013/12/3 Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>

> Hi Olivier,
>
> here the list of all GAC representatives, not sure it is regularly updated
> https://gacweb.icann.org/display/gacweb/GAC+Representatives
>
> Rafik
>
>
> 2013/12/3 Olivier Kouami <olivierkouami at gmail.com>
>
>> Hi !
>>
>> I have a question please.
>> How many Developing countries representatives (particuliarly from Africa)
>> are active members of GAC till now ?
>> We are talking about multistakerholderism ... Is it effective ?
>> Let me know please.
>> Cheers !
>> -Olevie-
>>
>>
>>
>> 2013/12/3 Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
>>
>>> Hi Adam,
>>>
>>> I was asking if the GAC is discussing in how to participate early in
>>> policy development process early and not having advices made at later
>>> stage. I was not talking about Applicant support or funds per se
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Rafik
>>>
>>> 2013/12/3 Adam Peake <ajp at glocom.ac.jp>
>>>
>>>> So there'll be a PDP?  Again, shouldn't something like this be
>>>> coordinated across ICANN, part of the organization's strategic objectives?
>>>>  If talking about a further tld program and developing countries, doesn't
>>>> it make more sense to work that up through the African/LAC/AP regional
>>>> strategies?  If thinking how auction and 'windfall' type funds can be used,
>>>> again if the focus is development then let the regions work it out.
>>>>
>>>> Adam
>>>>
>>>> On Dec 3, 2013, at 8:36 PM, Rafik Dammak wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > Hi Tracy,
>>>> >
>>>> > Thank you for this update. Interesting to see GAC members trying new
>>>> approaches to work on advices. Was there any discussion on how GAC
>>>> participate early in the stage of PDP ?
>>>> > For JAS, I remember as co-chair of the WG in that time to approach
>>>> GAC members to join us and we didn't fully succeed (I recall that you
>>>> joined us and participated in calls). But we could find support on GAC
>>>> communique later .
>>>> >
>>>> > regarding the input, did the GAC discuss on how to get it? are you
>>>> going to follow the model of public comment period and let the community
>>>> comment your deliverables?
>>>> >
>>>> > Best,
>>>> >
>>>> > Rafik
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > 2013/12/3 Tracy F. Hackshaw @ Google <tracyhackshaw at gmail.com>
>>>> > On a related note, the GAC has, as per its BA Communique, formally
>>>> established a Working Group to examine (future) new gTLD issues ... one of
>>>> which is Applicant Support and Developing Economies'
>>>> (involvement/participation). A large percentage of the foundational input
>>>> into this Working Group is based on an assessment of the implementation of
>>>> the JAS Working Group recommendations as well as an assessment of the
>>>> effectiveness of the final version of the Applicant Support Program.
>>>> >
>>>> > An initial position on the issue with the potential, based on wider
>>>> GAC discussion, to move forward to formal GAC Advice is due in Singapore.
>>>> >
>>>> > I am certain that the inputs of the NCUC, among others, on this
>>>> topic, will be VERY welcomed and immediately considered by the Working
>>>> Group.
>>>> > ------
>>>> > Rgds,
>>>> >
>>>> > Tracy
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > On Dec 2, 2013 11:58 PM, "Rafik Dammak" <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > Hi Marilia,
>>>> >
>>>> > regarding auctions, one of the proposal (mentioned again in Ba
>>>> meeting by Avri) was to create an ICANN Foundation to manage those funds
>>>> coming from auctions. That was suggested in the final report (
>>>> https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/22970578/Final_Report_JASWG+%28Sept+2011%29_Seth+created_Submitted.pdf)
>>>> made by the joiny working on new gTLD applicant support or JAS and the
>>>> board didn't pick-up that recommendation in that time .
>>>> >
>>>> > it is also possible to add other existing funds not related to new
>>>> gTLD program per se.
>>>> >
>>>> > Another option can be to support applicants from developing countries
>>>> in second round of the new gTLD program (I would prefer those not having
>>>> commercial interests to be supported) and working to make it more open and
>>>> inclusive. Unfortunately, the applicant support was implemented too late
>>>> for the first round in Jan 2012.
>>>> >
>>>> > as Amr said, public interest can be broad and having several
>>>> interpretations, we can see that on GAC advices to request content policy
>>>> via TLD. However, for applicant support, we also found support from the GAC
>>>> to the recommendation made by the WG.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Best,
>>>> >
>>>> > Rafik
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > 2013/12/3 Marilia Maciel <mariliamaciel at gmail.com>
>>>> > Hi Amr! I have no particular attachment to this expression, we can
>>>> use whatever suits our discussion. Or we can avoid definitions and focus on
>>>> concrete proposals of what to do with the revenues that would benefit the
>>>> wider community. My point was just that revenues should not be entreasured
>>>> by ICANN or be appropriated by private actors in the chain, but put to good
>>>> use. What are the areas under ICANN's mandate in which additional resources
>>>> could benefit non-commercial interests? Foster development of the Internet?
>>>> That is what I am mulling over and would love to have company :)
>>>> >
>>>> > Marília
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 4:44 PM, Amr Elsadr <aelsadr at egyptig.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > Hi Marilia,
>>>> >
>>>> > I share your interest in this process and its outcome, however like
>>>> you, am not as informed on it as I would like to be. Reading up on this is
>>>> on my “to do” list, but I do have one observation:
>>>> >
>>>> > I personally have a problem with the term “public interest”. I do not
>>>> believe there is a standard or agreed upon definition of the term. It is
>>>> largely subjective as far as I can tell. If you ask a lawyer active in
>>>> civil society work in Brazil what the public interest is, I doubt you will
>>>> get the same response if you ask a state-security officer in Egypt (for
>>>> example). Forgive me if I’m a bit touchy with the term. I’ve had some
>>>> unpleasant experience with it in the past.
>>>> >
>>>> > If there has been a discussion on this list about the auctions, I
>>>> have missed it. If NCUC does have a position or would like to adopt one, I
>>>> hope we can agree on specific proposals on what we believe should be done
>>>> with auction revenues, and not use abstract terms like “pubic interest”.
>>>> >
>>>> > Just a few thoughts, and as always, I am agreeable to being corrected.
>>>> >
>>>> > Thanks.
>>>> >
>>>> > Amr
>>>> >
>>>> > On Dec 2, 2013, at 6:35 PM, Marilia Maciel <mariliamaciel at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> Dear all,
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I am trying to understand better the new gTLD program auctions and,
>>>> more specifically, to understand what are the feasible options to invest
>>>> the revenue in a way that is public interest oriented and maybe development
>>>> oriented as well.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Has NCUC reached a common position about the auctions? If not, I
>>>> would like to join others who would be interested to focus on that. I am
>>>> sorry if this topic has already been discussed on the list before I join.
>>>> If so, I will search the archives.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> It is my understanding that a proposal from civil society with a
>>>> public interest orientation could be supported by some govts as well.
>>>> Actually, some have been looking for inputs on this matter.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Thanks in advance for any information you can share about this.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Marília
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> --
>>>> >> Marília Maciel
>>>> >> Pesquisadora Gestora
>>>> >> Centro de Tecnologia e Sociedade - FGV Direito Rio
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Researcher and Coordinator
>>>> >> Center for Technology & Society - FGV Law School
>>>> >> http://direitorio.fgv.br/cts
>>>> >>
>>>> >> DiploFoundation associate
>>>> >> www.diplomacy.edu
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>>>> > Pesquisadora Gestora
>>>> > Centro de Tecnologia e Sociedade - FGV Direito Rio
>>>> >
>>>> > Researcher and Coordinator
>>>> > Center for Technology & Society - FGV Law School
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DG Ets GIDA-OKTETS & CEO de INTIC4DEV (http://www.intic4dev.org)
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