Staub

[Avri Doria]

Hi,

At first blush, it seemed ok to me - knee jerk reaction in favor of IDNs.

Then someone pointed out that the majority of IDN applications belonged to Verisign.
So it becomes yet another bonus for the incumbent.

The rich get richer.

avri

On 14 Oct 2012, at 14:56, Maria Farrell wrote:

> Yes, I see what you mean. It's ugly but likely not worth dying in a ditch over. 
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> On Sunday, 14 October 2012, Desiree Miloshevic wrote:
> On 14 Oct 2012, at 15:37, Wendy Seltzer wrote:
> 
> > I think this "raffle" is an ugly legal kludge, but it's one that comes
> > closer to the mark than prior efforts. Where random selection is the
> > best way to allocate slots, just do it and move on.
> >
> +1
> 
> it was always going to come down to some sort of random distribution. e.g. lottery.
> another way, perhaps, would have been to do Keep It Simple and go for an alphabetical order -
> equally (un)fair, - fairness being  contained in the fact that the chosen processing method would have been a surprise to all the new gTLD
> applicants. ops, and unfairness being in the fact that applicants and the strings find themselves at the other side of the alphabet, .. .www . zzz
> 
> Desiree
> --
> > --Wendy
> >
> > On 10/14/2012 10:12 AM, Edward Morris wrote:
> >> I'm a bit agnostic about the raffle concept (we're beyond the point of
> >> constructing anything approaching an ideal solution...mistakes were made
> >> and we're in cleanup mode) and am open to any and all arguments thereof,
> >> but the article referenced  is neither balanced nor accurate.
> >>
> >> Mr. Staub states that ICANN wants "gTLD applicants to travel to
> >> California". Not true. ICANN will facilitate representation, at no charge,
> >> for applicants unwilling or unable to come to California. California Penal
> >> Code §320.5(f)(2) prohibits the sale of raffle tickets online. Things have
> >> to be done in person.
> >>
> >> Mr. Staubb claims ICANN's use of the raffle  is a misuse of the raffle
> >> exemption which, he states, is "designed to allow for not-for-profit
> >> fundraising". I'd concur that is the spirit of the law but the statute
> >> itself does allow for raffles that support undefined "beneficial or
> >> charitable" purposes. ICANN is a registered California charity
> >> (registration number 111047). The only mention of purposive fundraising in
> >> California Penal Code §320.5 relates to using raffle proceeds to
> >> "financially" support another charity.That doesn't apply here. I see no
> >> misuse.
> >>
> >> Raffle proceeds must be used in California. ICANN has stated it will comply
> >> with this provision. It might be nice if we were told the specifics.
> >>
> >> The rest of Mr. Staub's article consists of critiques of any sort of
> >> drawing or lottery. As stated, I'm a bit agnostic about this as I don't see
> >> any of the other proposals mentioned as being superior when applied, as
> >> now, in a post hoc manner. I'd suggest they would simply slow the entire
> >> process down. Of course, all of this could serve as points of discussion
> >> for policymaking in further gTLD rounds.
> >>
> >> I would note that should the Constituency agree with Mr. Staub that ICANN's
> >> proposal is a misuse of the raffle statute,  the proper way to stop the
> >> raffle from going forward is to ask California Attorney General Kamala
> >> Harris to reject ICANN's application for a license on those grounds.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 1:13 PM, "Kleinwächter, Wolfgang" <
> >> wolfgang.kleinwaechter at medienkomm.uni-halle.de> wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> http://www.circleid.com/posts/20121013_the_draw_icann_severe_case_of_virus_infection/
> >>>
> >>> Friends,  should be do something here?
> >>>
> >>> wolfgang
> >>>
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> > Wendy Seltzer -- wendy at seltzer.org +1 617.863.0613
> > Fellow, Berkman Center for Internet & Society at Harvard University
> > Visiting Fellow, Yale Law School Information Society Project
> > http://wendy.seltzer.org/
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