Status of IOC/IFRC special rights group was Fwd: [] CALL CANCELLATION: Meeting Invitation/GAC/GNSO issues related to International Olympic Committee (IOC) & Red Cross (RC) names discussion group

[Alain Berranger]

I agree with the two statements in Avri's position

On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 4:17 PM, Avri Doria <avri at acm.org> wrote:

> BTW, anyone who is interested in the other replies can follow the list at:
> <http://forum.icann.org/lists/gnso-iocrc-dt/>
> I think the opinion from the group will be divided.
>
> (-: so much for my obvious remark of the day)
>
> avri
>
> On 2 May 2012, at 12:44, Robin Gross wrote:
>
> > Thanks for bringing this issue to the attention of the membership.  I
> agree with your approach that this group should document its work, but not
> try to attempt any further recommendations.  The council will deliberate
> the issue and if a pdp on the issue is go forward, it should be done
> through a legitimate policy development process, not this ad hoc anything
> goes group consisting of mostly IOC lobbyists and supporters.  If policy
> recommendations are to be made, they should be done through a legitimate
> process.
> >
> > Best,
> > Robin
> >
> >
> > On May 2, 2012, at 8:38 AM, Avri Doria wrote:
> >
> >> I would like to get NCSG view on my personal response.
> >> I expect this is an issue that belongs on the upcoming NCSG policy
> discussion.
> >>
> >> avri
> >>
> >>
> >> Begin forwarded message:
> >>
> >>> From: Avri Doria <avri at acm.org>
> >>> Subject: Re: [gnso-iocrc-dt] RE: CALL CANCELLATION: Meeting
> Invitation/GAC/GNSO issues related to International Olympic Committee (IOC)
> & Red Cross (RC) names discussion group
> >>> Date: 2 May 2012 11:34:49 EDT
> >>> To: gnso-iocrc-dt at icann.org
> >>>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> My personal view is sort of hybrid.
> >>>
> >>> I think that this group should not produce any further recommendations
> but should finish up by documenting what it has done.  The documentation
> that came out with the recommendations was, I understand, incomplete.  I
> think it would be a pity to waste all those volunteer hours, especially
> those that could have been lucrative billable hours, without producing a
> coherent synthesis that shows all sides of the work the group did.
> >>>
> >>> I also think, as always when there is a communication from another of
> the SOAC entities, that the g-council owes a response to the GAC that
> points to the report of work done, describes the process ahead with PDP
> etc, and that invites GAC members to participate in that PDP's WG when it
> gets going.
> >>>
> >>> avri
> >>>
> >>> On 2 May 2012, at 11:11, Neuman, Jeff wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> All,
> >>>>
> >>>> I just wanted to drop a quick note explaining why I cancelled the
> call for today.  Over the past couple of weeks, there has been a lot of
> chatter in various groups about the dismantling of our drafting team for a
> variety of reasons ranging from the practical (“Lets wait until the PDP to
> restructure a group like this”) to the cynical (“The Board rejected all of
> the Drafting Teams recommendations and there Is nothing left for the group
> to do”).  Although the Drafting Team understands that the Board only dealt
> with the Top Level Recommendations and that the GAC Proposal to which we
> were responding has recommendations at the second level, there is still a
> lot of negative chatter out there calling for this group to be abandoned.
> >>>>
> >>>> The GNSO Council Call will address this issue next week and decide
> (hopefully) the future of this group.  Before that happens, however, I
> would like to know your thoughts on whether this Drafting Team should cease
> it operations.  From my own personal perspective (and not necessarily my
> SG), I believe that although we voted in favor of commencing  PDP on issues
> that are related to the IOC-RC proposals, the GNSO owes a response to the
> GAC on the GAC’s September 2011 proposal (the majority of which addresses
> proposed second level protections).  That proposal is now 8 months old and
> whether this Drafting Team helps with crafting that answer or not, the GNSO
> must provide a well-thought out and reasoned response.  I believe it would
> not be wise to ignore the proposal or to tell the GAC that we are going to
> wait for the issue report to be drafted and finalized by October and then
> decide whether to commence a PDP and then take a year or longer to provide
> the GNSO Council response (which could be 2-3 years after the initial
> proposal).
> >>>>
> >>>> In the end, it will not be me making this call, but rather the
> Council.  I believe your feedback will help inform the Council on what it
> should do next week.  If any of you have thoughts on this, I would be happy
> to present those thoughts to the Council next week.
> >>>>
> >>>> I truly appreciate the work you all have done to and regardless of
> what ultimately happens, I believe the work has been beneficial to the GNSO
> Community.
> >>>>
> >>>> Best regards,
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Jeffrey J. Neuman
> >>>> Neustar, Inc. / Vice President, Business Affairs
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> From: owner-ntfy-gnso-iocrc-dt at icann.org [mailto:
> owner-ntfy-gnso-iocrc-dt at icann.org] On Behalf Of Nathalie Peregrine
> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 4:48 AM
> >>>> To: ntfy-gnso-iocrc-dt at icann.org
> >>>> Cc: gnso-secs at icann.org
> >>>> Subject: [ntfy-gnso-iocrc-dt] CALL CANCELLATION: Meeting
> Invitation/GAC/GNSO issues related to International Olympic Committee (IOC)
> & Red Cross (RC) names discussion group
> >>>>
> >>>> Dear All,
> >>>>
> >>>> The next call for the GAC/GNSO issues related to International
> Olympic Committee (IOC) & Red Cross (RC) names discussion group initially
> scheduled for today  Wednesday 02 May 2012 at 1800 UTC has now been
> cancelled as per Jeff Neuman.
> >>>> Details about possible future calls will follow shortly.
> >>>>
> >>
> >
>



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