.CAT WHOIS Proposed Changes - call for public comments - Think hard!!

[Kathy Kleiman]

All,
I think this is a very dangerous slippery slope. Natural persons deserve 
privacy, yes, and that completely consistent with the EU Data Protection 
Directive.  But in the US and other places around the world 
Organizations deserve privacy protection too.  If we give this up now, 
we will never get it back.

I strongly agree with Avri that the organizations that protect natural 
persons are important, and so too are the organizations that deal with 
political freedoms, religious freedoms, political minorities, religious 
minorities, and even organizations who are parents organizing baseball 
teams, soccer teams and home-schooling groups.  Organizations are the 
**perfect example** of what a Noncommercial Message does **not need to 
be tied into An Physical Address in a  Globally Available Database.**

What law enforcement really cares about is using the Whois to track down 
those who do e-commerce deals and then cheat someone. That's fair, and I 
and others are working on ways to help them with very narrowly-tailored 
policies. But that does not mean that we give up the Privacy of those 
engaged in Noncommercial Conduct or simply ordinary conduct (and in the 
US, that includes Organizations engaged in an array of protected speech 
-- note: we had a case where law enforcement wanted all the members of 
an NAACP branch, "a civil rights organization for ethnic minorities in 
the united States," and the answer was "no" on privacy grounds - 
organizations have rights of privacy and speakers of all types, 
including those banded together in organizations have privacy in their 
contentious, minority speech.)

Please know: that there is an ongoing move in the gTLDs to eliminate 
proxy and privacy services, and if they prevail (now or 10 years from 
now), we will be left with only the slim protections, if any, in the 
ICANN Whois database.  So yes, if .CAT (Catalonia, Spain) wants privacy 
for its individuals, that's great. But it sets a precedent for all 
gTLDs, and in that precedent, we need all Organizations not actively 
engaged in e-commerce protected too.

Big sigh, as that is a lot to talk about. I have lived Whois policies 
for the last year as Vice-Chair of the Whois Review Team, and for 10 
years before that as one of the diligent NCUC reps on Whois Task Forces 
(including Milton, Wendy, Robin).

As a policy matter, I would ask that our NCUC leaders strongly urge .CAT 
to modify its proposal to offer privacy protection for all noncommercial 
organizations that request it, too, as a condition of our support.

Best, Kathy (Kleiman)
Co-Founder, NCUC
Vice-Chair, Whois Review Team


> Hi,
>
> I agree, but I wonder whether it is  worth suggesting something that goes one step further, the protection of some legal persons (mostly NGO and other civil society orgs) whose day to day operations are concerned with protecting natural persons facing a variety of  physical threats.
>
> So, I suggest we support, but say it does not go far enough.
>
> (have not read it yet, going on your abstract -  if they do have such an exception - i support it all the way)
>
> avri
>
> On 21 Jan 2012, at 11:50, Wendy Seltzer wrote:
>
>> .CAT proposes to revise its Registry agreement to support withholding of
>> some WHOIS data by individuals who opt out. It will not offer this
>> opt-out to legal persons.
>>
>> I propose that NCSG support this amendment, with a simple: "NCSG
>> supports the availability of WHOIS privacy options for natural persons.
>> Accordingly, we support puntCAT's proposed amendment."
>>
>> --Wendy
>>
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: [council] .CAT WHOIS Proposed Changes - call for public comments
>> Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 14:08:05 -0800
>> From: Glen de Saint Géry<Glen at icann.org>
>> To: council at gnso.icann.org<council at gnso.icann.org>
>>
>> http://www.icann.org/en/announcements/announcement-20jan12-en.htm
>> .CAT WHOIS Proposed Changes
>>
>> Forum Announcement: Comment Period Opens on Date: 20 January2012
>>
>> Categories/Tags: Contracted Party Agreements
>>
>> Purpose (Brief):
>>
>> ICANN is opening today the public comment period for the Fundacio
>> puntCAT's, request to change its Whois according to EU data protection
>> legislation. The public comment period will be closed on 3 March 2012.
>>
>> The .cat registry, submitted a Registry Service Evaluation Process
>> (RSEP) on August 2011.
>>
>> At this time, ICANN has conducted a preliminary review in accordance
>> with the Registry Services Evaluation Policy and process set forth at
>> http://www.icann.org/registries/rsep/rsep.html. ICANN's preliminary
>> review (based on the information provided) did not identify any
>> significant competition, security, or stability issues.
>>
>> The implementation of the request requires an amendment to the .cat
>> Registry Agreement signed 23 September 2005. This public forum requests
>> comments regarding the proposed amendment.
>> Public Comment Box Link:
>> http://www.icann.org/en/public-comment/cat-whois-changes-18jan12-en.htm
>>
>> Glen de Saint Géry
>> GNSO Secretariat
>> gnso.secretariat at gnso.icann.org<mailto:gnso.secretariat at gnso.icann.org>
>> http://gnso.icann.org
>>


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